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Gemini 4 Carbon is the new #1 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index v5

https://artificialanalysis.ai/articles/gemini-4-carbon-new-number-1
26•theHocineSaad•43m ago

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davidguetta•11m ago
Don't bet against Google
bayindirh•6m ago
People always love to think the AI race is a duopoly (OpenAI vs. Anthropic), but from what I have experienced, Gemini was always holding on its own, and I find myself using it more than Claude.

True, I use LLMs as glorified search engines to unearth material to read myself, but Gemini is much more useful if you decide to learn yourself. It also offers interesting expansions to your questions.

While I don't offload my work to LLMs (e.g.: Write this project, I'll be watching TV), I find them useful for closing my knowledge gap by collating information, and Google's Gemini is good at that.

Oras•5m ago
Really? Been 3 years since ChatGPT and Google still going from misery to another in their AI products.

Even if these numbers are correct, they don’t have any useful product for coding or search. Not sure what you’re referring to

hmokiguess•5m ago
Thanks David Guetta!
prodigycorp•10m ago
Spare me the celebration. Artificial Analysis should not be granting any company the favor of a #1 ranking for a model that isn't released to the public. Congrats to AA for also handing over their private benchmark set to everyone at google too lol cmon now.

Google's model release is pure PR puffery. It's no coincidence that it was released on the day of its earnings call.

dominotw•6m ago
Sunder quoted their tweet in his release announcement. Like that was the main thing he wanted to say.
juujian•10m ago
Good for them, having a frontier model that nobody can actually use.
isqueiros•7m ago
I'll use this opportunity while it's still early to share my experience with Argon.

I got it via the "Pro" plan, exclusively for personal task usage. So no agentic programming.

For starters, the limits are dreadfully low. Five messages on medium is already enough to trigger a 4 hour cooldown. Secondly, the best part is the integration with Google search and Maps. Makes it seamless for trip planning. Lastly it's the only "SOTA" model in a long time that has actively hallucinated details. I don't know if it's because the Gemini harness is not asking it to verify information, but I've had some real Deepseek V3-like lies in responses.

Either way, I find it difficult to get invested in Gemini because nobody will have access to Carbon for a few months anyways.

avereveard•7m ago
Is this a pro 3.1 situation that by the time ot reached the users it produced no more work than the flash variant or competitor for absurd pricing?
miroljub•6m ago
A secret model I trained last afternoon is the actual #1 on benchmarks.

No, you can't use it. You can't even see it, and I won't provide you any information. But you must trust me that I am the genius who made the best model in the whole world.

egeozcan•5m ago
They can release even Jambon and Jargon, why should I care when I cannot test it?
pranshuchittora•4m ago
Nice coverup for the Q3 results. Wall St. don't give a F*

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