Dupe (250 points, 170 comments): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43970959

This is exactly why the EU's Digital Markets Act exists. And why it needs teeth. Google disabling Nextcloud's all-files access on Android, while quietly letting its own apps and big corporate players keep it, isn't about "security". It's about control. Nextcloud is a European, privacy-first alternative built on open standards and that can be fully aligned with GDPR requirements. Blocking its core functionality while favouring your own services is a textbook abuse of platform power. Android was supposed to be open, but moves like this show it (at least the Play Services verison) is just another walled garden. If the EU is serious about digital sovereignty and fair competition, this is the kind of behaviour that must be stopped. Otherwise, no European tech, no matter how compliant, open, or user-friendly, stands a chance.

Goddammit Pichai. We had something mediocre, why enshitify it to the oblivion?

I would like to have both options: Full file access and controlled access. I guess not eveyrone wants nextcloud full file sync.

But yes this is shitty regarding google.

> SAF cannot be used, as it is for sharing/exposing our files to other apps

SAF can be used. There are reasons why this wouldn't be a good fit for NextCloud (you can't share your entire internal storage, your download folder, or the root of an SD card, for instance), but I don't think NextCloud's statement makes sense.

We feel your pain at Nextcloud. Our team at Everfind (unified search across Drive, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.) has spent the past year fighting for the *drive.readonly* scope simply so we can download files, run OCR, and index their full-text for users. Google keeps telling us to make do with *drive.file* + *drive.metadata.readonly*, which breaks continuous discovery and cripples search results for any new or updated document.

Bottom line: Googles "least-privilege" rhetoric sounds noble, but in practice it gives Big Tech first-party apps privileged access while forcing independent vendors to ship half-working products - or get kicked out of the Play Store. The result is users lose features and choices, and small devs burn countless hours arguing with a copy-paste policy bot.

This is also why the official SyncThing Android app stopped being distributed. There is a fork but it's not available on the Play Store.

damn this hits hard, i always feel locked out when stuff gets taken away like that - you ever wonder if tech shifts like this actually give us more control or just pull it away?

Google's former motto, "Don't be evil," was a key part of their corporate code of conduct, emphasizing ethical and transparent business practices. In 2015 the motto was removed, since then we are in their clutches. Now they are like Microsoft, that's the reason Nextcloud was created!

Google abusing their power, as usual. I guess Google Drive doesnt have these restrictions, does it? It's time the Europeans move together against these blatant antitrust violations.