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Mice grow bigger brains when given this stretch of human DNA

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01515-z
37•pavel_lishin•3d ago

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pavel_lishin•3d ago
What a cute little mouse. We should get him some flowers.
tracker1•3d ago
Can't help but think of this movie...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_of_NIMH

irrational•4h ago
The book is better, but... yeah, this was my first thought too.
msie•3d ago
Uh oh. No.
Buttons840•4h ago
"The same thing we do every night..."
rolph•3d ago
Pinky and the Brain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinky_and_the_Brain

https://archive.org/details/s-01-e-05-brainania

sshine•4h ago
Heck, if you give mice all of our DNA, they’ll become exactly like us!
robwwilliams•4h ago
Need to read this asap, but 6.5% is an exceedingly small effect size and not robust given many confounding developmental and technical factors. The typical coefficient of error between volumes of even large brain regions in genetically identical mice is usually well over 5%. And I suspect the transgene was only tested on one genetic background—-usually C57BL/6J.

Will emend this post tomorrow with corrections after reading carefully. I can say with reasonsble assurance that no one has measured and weighed more mouse brains than I have ;-) (except you John Wong)

gwerbret•3h ago
You should have read the paper (or at least the abstract) first, as they used macaque and human organoid models, too. :) But yes, the overall effects of the region of DNA in question (an enhancer) are fairly small.

The preprint is available here: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.04.10.588953v1....

vasco•1h ago
> can say with reasonsble assurance that no one has measured and weighed more mouse brains than I have

Out of curiosity how many would that be? Thousands? Tens of thousands? How long does it take to measure a mouse brain? When you do it does someone remove them for you or you also have to remove them before measuring?

hirenj•27m ago
I guess that whatever recognises the enhancers must be conserved ish in mice for us to be able to drop this region into the mouse genome. That might be interesting alone apart from the functions of the frizzleds. Always a curious question about how much new “machinery” we have in humans, vs us being a specific configuration of common machinery (i.e., if we were to swap out introns/regulatory regions from a mouse with human, and assuming we don’t screw up any checkpoints, how far would it get with looking/acting like a human?).
giardini•3h ago
What could possibly go wrong?
codr7•1h ago
I like this better than sharks though, sharks are terrifying enough without super intelligence.
protocolture•2h ago
I would have started with apes. Maybe a planet full.
Onavo•2h ago
Does Algernon want some flowers?
ipsum2•2h ago
Meta comment: 11/13 comments currently are pop-culture references (Flowers for Algernon, Pinky and the Brain, other movies) or generic phrases and only 2 comments relate to the actual article. I've been on HN for over a decade, and this is the worst it's ever been.
jagger27•2h ago
Check out some of the timestamps in the links in last line of the guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
ipsum2•1h ago
I am aware of the guidelines, considering how long I've been here. However, I have offered proof, that over 80% of the comments do not contribute anything and are exactly like those of Reddit.
DaSHacka•11m ago
The enshittification of reddit and its consequences has been a disaster for discussion boards across the internet
lucianbr•1h ago
Agreed. But what can you do? People will comment what they will, and vote as they like.

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