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Hydra: Vehicles on the island – 'After the works they abandon them here'

https://en.protothema.gr/2025/05/19/hydra-see-photos-of-vehicles-on-the-island-after-the-works-they-abandon-them-here-say-residents/
28•gnabgib•2d ago

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thazework•6h ago
Hydra is fairly unique in that bikes, not just motorized vehicles, are prohibited on the island.
dogma1138•4h ago
Only donkeys, there are a few vehicles tho the garbage collection “truck” being one of them.
ndsipa_pomu•4h ago
I wonder what their reasoning is behind banning non-powered bikes? It's got very steep hills, so there's a good chance that bicycles wouldn't be very practical, but seems strange to ban them.
detourdog•4h ago
Could be a speed limit thing.
ndsipa_pomu•4h ago
I doubt that they have speed limits if they don't allow motorised vehicles.
detourdog•56m ago
I agree, If everyone is on foot there is no need for regulating the speed.
dogma1138•3h ago
Narrow streets and very steep slopes there is absolutely no way to safely cycle anywhere there.
polonbike•3h ago
Bikes, even muscular ones, can be annoying to pedestrians on thin hiking paths. My take is that even if they allow one/a few/a capped number, then it's out of the bottle, and people will try to game the system one way or another
sidewndr46•2h ago
What is a muscular bike?
RainyDayTmrw•1h ago
Presumably the poster wanted to differentiate e-bikes (electrical motor assisted) with fully human powered (traditional) bikes.
dylan604•1h ago
The type powered by meat motors
loire280•1h ago
I've started calling them "acoustic" bikes, like non-electric guitars. Not technically accurate, but folks almost always get it and smile.
jpalawaga•1h ago
Analog bikes
alexey-salmin•49m ago
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dmurray•4h ago
Interesting that they're being described as "abandoned" there. I thought they might be getting sold to locals who have plausible deniability that they're using them for construction work.

Why abandon a working vehicle? Surely the construction projects on Hydra aren't exclusively worked by end-of-life vehicles. And it's only about 3km from mainland Greece so it can't be prohibitively expensive to ship them back (even if they are end of life, they should have much more scrappage value than the shipping cost).

dylan604•1h ago
It could be a book keeping thing. Sometimes, it works out better by the pencil pushers if something is written off as a loss. Consider the expense of having to send a barge/ship to the island to transport it back from the island to somewhere else. Then they could attempt to sell it. Would that sale be profitable?
pfdietz•1h ago
Even if that were the case, wouldn't whoever ended up owning it make a profit by sending it back for scrapping/parting out?
dylan604•54m ago
you have to do the math on shipping costs vs how much can be made. i'd venture its not profitable in a reasonable amount of time. you then have to have someone skilled to part it out. store the pieces. line up buyers. all of that comes at an expense.
pfdietz•16m ago
So, how much does shipping a ton 3 miles by water cost? The scrap value of a vehicle is maybe $200/ton (more if valuable parts can be salvaged.)

Shipping by truck in the US costs somewhere around $0.10/ton-mile.

bell-cot•3h ago
> “A paradise for walkers and nature lovers.” That’s how the Municipality describes Hydra on its website, promoting the island’s uniqueness, where the movement of all wheeled vehicles is prohibited by law. However, laws are made to be broken—especially when there is no one responsible or interested in enforcing them. Thus, this otherwise beautiful island, rich in archaeological and natural treasures and boasting unique architecture, has become filled with cars, motorcycles, bicycles, and of course, scooters, which are trendier than walking.

Sounds like the usual "humans want pretended virtues, and laws are for the little people" deal to me.

xcskier56•2h ago
One of my favorite things when I was here was seeing an Amazon Prime logo on the saddlebag of a donkey. That struck me as a very weird collision of old and new worlds
tiahura•2h ago
Push them into the water?
potato3732842•5m ago
I grew up on an island. If you see something that looks insane it's almost always an economic distortion as a result of the high cost of getting stuff in and our or an economic distortion as a result of government doing something absurd to protect the big local industry (tourism, retirement, etc).

For the longest time they wouldn't let a scrap metal place exist. Then eventually someone just started running one accessory to another business via a loophole and all the metal trash that adorned the ditches in secluded areas just vanished and didn't get replaced.

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