It can be a long way from a prototype to something worth building at scale.
"In “How Common is Independent Discovery?,” Matt Clancy catalogues several attempts to estimate the frequency of multiple discovery, and tentatively comes up with a frequency of around 2-3% for simultaneous scientific discoveries, and perhaps an 8% chance that a given invention will be reinvented in the next decade"
I.e. they are not talking about multiple people working together on an invention, but rather parallel discoveries.
I also think there's something about the nature of reality which suggests that if we try, we will eventually discover what is there to be discovered. As David Deutsch puts it, "everything that is not forbidden by laws of nature is achievable, given the right knowledge". Of course the "invention" is about discovering the right knowledge, in what order and how we come about that.
(And, to throw in a fun pet issue of mine, this infuriated me about Atlas Shrugged - the idea that solitary geniuses can invent mind-boggling technology and that therefore the rest of society needs to bow down to them. Like, no - once it was known that free energy could come out of the air, the world's scientists would be racing to reproduce this finding, and would probably do so in short order.)
Lillienfeld likely never actually built his transistor (it would have almost certainly been impossible to build a working one due to material limitations), but he nevertheless described the concept.
An invention doesn't become viable when someone thinks it up, it becomes viable when the material science is there to make it happen. We all wish we had the impossible, and we ponder what we would do if physics were just a little more forgiving. So, when material science advances to the point that physics is no longer the limiting factor, a swath of tinkerers is going try it out, all at once, and a few will get it right.And disclosure.
Reduction to practice is where I think the rubber meets the road. This is where you find out if someone actually understands the subject matter well enough to have invented something, and at least has discovered and overcome the major pitfalls. Plus the act of making something work really helps to clarify the idea and demonstrate non-obviousness. And if it can't be reduced to practice, then it's not an invention.
There's nothing wrong with publishing an idea but leaving recognition for inventorship to someone else.
This is one of those statements that say more about the person not having ideas than about ideas. One could say it was an idea in it self so poor it should have vanished in the pile of crap never to be heard about by anyone - if only they had two or three more.
History is full of accomplished people who thought everything was invented already. The truth is that we started rubbing sticks together two weeks ago. In the cosmic sense we don't even have a life span. Our average memory cant compete with a single sheet of a4 paper. It is a miracle we can find time to fit in an original thought in the cracks between earning a living, reproducing, eating, sleeping, house keeping, social interactions and personal hygiene.
And then we have this preference for keeping things the way they are. Something new, however adventurous, really has to make an effort to overcome that one! I bet 99% gets debunked by the person having the thought.
Patents are only interesting if what you are really looking for is money or fame. It's an inferior mind set compared to curiosity. You decide what counts, not the guy willing to give you a shiny dime for what could be that single awesome original thought you got to have in your life span but only after you share it. ha-ha
The stuff people discovered is actually so bizarre that if you described it to people 100 years before it would sound utterly absurd. In the future our fellow apes will descend from the trees and rub sticks together? Then the other monkey looks at you from the corner of their eyes while tilting their head. Of course before that one of them had to come up with the idea to go live in trees! Imagine what bad idea that was. Or how about crawling onto the beach and living on land. The other fish must have been like, dude?!?! stop eating the pink sea weed!
Edison got a workable lightbulb by having a whole staff trying different materials. The concept was known - find some resistive material that will tolerate high temperature and run some power through it. Works fine with platinum, but costs too much. Many materials can be carbonized but the filaments don't last. Swan maxed out at 14 hours. Edison's lab just kept trying materials until they got carbonized bamboo to work for 1200 hours.
It's the power of money.
It is not really a conspiracy but there are a lot of very strange coincidences involved.
A short summary.
Charles Martin Hall worked out the electrolytic method for aluminum refinement in 1886. The same process was also independently discovered that year by Paul Héroult. both men were 22 years old, a strange coincidence. but where it gets really weird is that both men also died the the same year, 1914.
This has almost nothing to do with the article, of course. :-)
The first US patent "was granted to Samuel Hopkins for a process of making potash, an ingredient used in fertilizer on July 31."
US Patent No.1 "was granted to Senator John Ruggles for a traction wheel for steam locomotives on July 13. The 9,957 patents granted before the numbering system are now known as the X-patents."
And I also think there is quite a bit of winner writes the history / reverse history writing. Like had the Germans won World War II, German inventors would be widely credited in computing. Or the stuff on who invented the neural net brought up by the recent Nobel prize.
That sounds interesting. Like an accidental combination of movie + song + recent news that gives useful insights in some area.
With today's digital tracking, I wonder if we can quantify it: "X% of programming language creators read both Asimov and Terry Pratchett in non-English speaking countries".
> For example rats who master a maze in one part of the world make it easier for unrelated rats anywhere in the world to master the same maze pattern — it’s as if the learned skill/idea is “broadcast” to all rat brains.
Oh, you were being literal. That's deep into pseudoscience territory. What's the proposed mechanism for this "broadcast"?
Regardless I don't know how you'd prove this to everyone's satisfaction, it seems real easy to game/cheat.
Or quantum spooky action at a distance?
Something about tribes living close to each other, but with no contact, inventing the same stuff. After the first one got a tech, the others would also invent it, but faster.
Seemed a bit far fetched to me. Like, they are living in similar conditions, so it seems reasonable that each of them develops similar tech.
This is thought of as somehow wonderful. It isn't. It is tragic. Little particles of inspiration sleet through the universe all the time traveling through the densest matter in the same way that a neutrino passes through a candyfloss haystack, and most of them miss.
Even worse, most of the ones that hit the exact cerebral target, hit the wrong one.
For example, the weird dream about a lead doughnut on a mile-high gantry, which in the right mind would have been the catalyst for the invention of repressed-gravitational electricity generation (a cheap and inexhaustible and totally non-polluting form of power which the world in question had been seeking for centuries, and for the lack of which it was plunged into a terrible and pointless war) was in fact had by a small and bewildered duck.
By another stroke of bad luck, the sight of a herd of wild horses galloping through a field of wild hyacinths would have led a struggling composer to write the famous Flying God Suite, bringing succor and balm to the souls of millions, had he not been at home in bed with shingles. The inspiration thereby fell to a nearby frog, who was not in much of a position to make a startling contributing to the field of tone poetry.
Many civilizations have recognized this shocking waste and tried various methods to prevent it, most of them involving enjoyable but illegal attempts to tune the mind into the right wavelength by the use of exotic herbage or yeast products. It never works properly.”
― Terry Pratchett, Sourcery
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jongjong•16h ago
There are only a few cases I can think of where people seem to have a semi-realistic view on invention. Children often ask "who invented the computer?" and they are often disappointed by the answer because, it was so drawn-out (multiple generations), so granular, that you can't even make up an approximate answer. People grasping really hard will utter names like Charles Babbage but then acknowledge that there are a huge number of mathematicians, physicists and engineers behind it. Literally anyone who invented anything related to electricity and material science made a contribution too. It's the reality for most inventions that they materialized quickly within a single generation; this created a race situation and simple people basically agreed on some relatable finish line and then named a winner on that basis. The summary of history is written for simpletons; it's a caricature, it characterizes it in some way but it's also comical.
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theendisney•12h ago
Also funny is to have an idea just complete enough to be able to find the patents.