Hello!
I'm writing to let you know that, as part of our work to move our business operations from the United States to Europe, we are rolling out changes to our terms of service and privacy policy. As promised, we are giving you two weeks notice and a chance to participate in the discussion about the proposed changes.
You can review the diff of the proposed changes on the sr.ht-dev mailing list:
https://lists.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/sr.ht-dev/patches/60282
The changes will take effect from July 10th, provided that there are no further revisions based on user feedback. Further changes will be discussed on sr.ht-dev rather than emailed to you directly.
If you have questions or comments, you can participate in this thread, or you can reply to this email to reach support directly.
-- Drew DeVault SourceHut
lionkor•7mo ago
hiAndrewQuinn•7mo ago
I would say the same thing for EU to US migrations, to be clear. This is just something that should always be considered reflexively.
palata•7mo ago
hiAndrewQuinn•7mo ago
diggan•7mo ago
That makes sense in the traditional/American viewpoint of aiming to maximize profits, or however it goes.
But Sourcehut seems to take a different viewpoint than that, with a big focus on 100% FOSS, then Europe obviously makes much more sense than the US, even if there is a non-zero amount of hours involved with the migration. And with the FOSS perspective, the move vice-versa wouldn't make much sense at all.
oaiey•7mo ago
hiAndrewQuinn•7mo ago
More importantly, the comparison you are drawing equates the "American viewpoint" of aiming to maximize profits directly to the goal of aiming to minimize cost to the end consumer. As in: "Yeah, our customers have to pay $30 instead of $20 a year now that we're EU-based, but so what? We're not in it to maximize profits." Excuse me?
diggan•7mo ago
It's not about laws, but about the community. If you're building a community and organization that is 100% about serving a specific community (in this case FOSS), then it makes sense to be wherever that community is strongest and healthiest, so in this case Europe. Regardless of laws.
> As in: "Yeah, our customers have to pay $30 instead of $20 a year now that we're EU-based, but so what? We're not in it to maximize profits." Excuse me?
That's you're still thinking in terms of "customers" and charging people higher/lower just makes it more obvious how Americans are constantly focused on profits and money. I don't see how that made up argument is even applicable here, care to explain without any more contrived examples?
ls-a•7mo ago
diggan•7mo ago
tgv•7mo ago
oaiey•7mo ago
Europe does not enforce law. The local state create laws, Europe is only creating guidelines which are implemented into national law. There is a European court however, who can overturn national laws (or at least fine the nations into submission).
detaro•7mo ago
wrong. EU law very much exists.