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A new experimental Google app for Windows

https://blog.google/products/search/google-app-windows-labs/
33•meetpateltech•2h ago

Comments

xnx•2h ago
Glad to see Google bring back an official search bar to Windows after discontinuing Google Desktop in 2011. IIRC ctrl,ctrl was the shortcut to pop up that search bar.

Now if only Google would bring back the Google One Windows VPN client.

nwhnwh•1h ago
"to help you find what you need, faster" yeah, I know you care about me, google.
GrumpyGoblin•1h ago
Aaaaaand it's shut down
bitpush•6m ago
Would you rather have Big Tech sit on their cash and not innovate? Some of these ones would 100% fail, and that's the nature of doing business. Apple is trying something radical with Vision Pro. It isnt successful, but I'm glad they are trying it. Microsoft did something crazy with Windows Recall. Will I use it? Nope, I appreciate the risk taking.

When your friend comes upto you and says "We're starting a business", do you immediately go like "haha, you're gonna lose?"

My wish is folks on hacker news have a bit of humility about these kind of things.

eviks•1h ago
> instantly search for information from ... of course, the web.

Why would I need random web garbage when searching my "computer files, installed apps, Google Drive files" (even apps don't fit, but at least that's a tiny set)

hulitu•1h ago
For your security and convenience. Google has access to your Android phone, but, there are evil people who use computers. Google would like to know - like Microsoft and Apple - what are those people doing with their computers. /s
babypuncher•1h ago
This is my biggest problem with a lot of modern desktop search.

Search in the Start Menu has been doing this by default for years. If I wanted to search the internet, I would have used the search box in my browser that is already open 24/7.

This doesn't add any convenience, it just pollutes search results with irrelevant garbage.

But the goal with these things isn't to provide a better user experience. It's to juice engagement metrics, because our industry sucks.

TheRoque•1h ago
I'm pretty sure you can configure said desktop searches to exclude web results. At least on KDE it's pretty easy to do, one box to untick.
fratellobigio•58m ago
I have a blog post for you (shameless plug):

https://fratellobigio.com/posts/make-windows-search-fast-aga...

amluto•53m ago
> already open 24/7

I have, sadly, started closing Safari so that my laptop is still charged the next time I open it.

qwertytyyuu•1h ago
Maybe if can index my files as well, better than microsft
herf•1h ago
"Try it for yourself by opting into the experiment in Labs."

This is a really confusing call to action.

paxys•1h ago
What is confusing about it?
IshKebab•48m ago
I think he was expecting it to be an app download, forgetting that Google can push this feature to everyone via Chrome.
stronglikedan•1h ago
Given the context, it seems unambiguous to me.
addicted•1h ago
Install Google For Windows...

until Lucy pulls the football again.

How does Google expect anyone to trust them.

I absolutely loved the Google Windows search app, and even went as far as fighting for our org to install the google appliance, only for Google to pull the rug out from under us.

They have Exchange solutions working for over 2 decades but the Google Appliance barely lasted 5 years.

nine_k•1h ago
Press Alt+Space to activate? Nobody activate window menus from keyboard any more?
EvanAnderson•1h ago
I do, every day. It's part of my muscle memory to maximize windows.
xnx•1h ago
It's a little annoying that this Google app steals the alt+space shortcut, but you can remap it.
saelthavron•1h ago
Many people don't know how to cut and paste via the keyboard. The vast majority aren't even aware of Alt+Space. The only reason I use Alt+Space is to recover windows from off-screen areas.
xnx•1h ago
You can also activate by clicking the "G" system tray icon.
omeromr•56m ago
I remapped it to Scroll Lock.
dragonwriter•48m ago
Since the window menu actions that aren’t terrible with keyboard also have their own direct keyboard shortcuts (move and size are the ones that don’t, but hand positioning windows instead of using snap positions is tedious with keyboard), I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s a fairly rare thing.
chrismorgan•12m ago
I was thinking about Maximise, Restore, and Minimise, which I think were Alt+Space {X,R?,N} (haven’t used Windows for a few years), but I suppose Win+Up is now Maximise, and Win+Down Restore and Minimise—but you still need Alt+Space N to minimise from maximised.
TiredOfLife•1h ago
I get "Search Labs isn’t available for your account right now"

Seeing the Google Labs name brought back bad memories. Google had an amazing app called Google Talk. It was small, fast and you could chat from your computer to somebody's Gmail account. But then Google announced labs version of google talk. It was slow and broke local video playback. And then that was replaced with a crappy extension you had to run in their browser thus ending Googles short small useful app story.

lysace•1h ago
Is it too cynical to assume that their goal is to get more data for their LLMs?
freedomben•1h ago
No I'm sure that's part of it. Also about gaining market share.
Toby1VC•1h ago
Please make it so downvotes (thumbs down) requires a double click. I don't want to send hurtful signals when I accidentally hit that.
dominicrose•58m ago
First you would have to have the permission to downvote.
1970-01-01•1h ago
Wasn't this done (20!) years ago? It seems very familiar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Desktop#Results_list:_t...

paxys•1h ago
Google Desktop was mainly for local file search. Shame that the idea never really took off, and even today local search is hopelessly broken on both Windows and Mac.
1970-01-01•1h ago
It did take off. There were server pizza boxes and everything. It was killed in 2011 by the very same company that is now introducing it as a "new app" in 2025.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/283722910233

https://web.archive.org/web/20060112110931/https://desktop.g...

The dead Internet theory continues to prevail. What is old is new again because nothing new can be created. The Hollywood reboots formula works, so we continue it with technology reboots.

paxys•28m ago
Those boxes were for enterprises, not for you to plug into your laptop.
1970-01-01•18m ago
Right. The box wasn't necessary to search, but was an indicator of Google Desktop's success. Furthermore, we can still leverage the dead binary with just a little system hacking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5ieNv7oelk
stronglikedan•1h ago
For Windows, Powertoys Run is great, but nothing beats Voidtools Everything for file search. It's an amazing piece of software that has retained the number one spot on Google search for the single term "everything" for an amazingly long time.
rs186•58m ago
If memory serves me right, it could look for information in Word documents and instant messaging apps extremely quickly and then display results in a great UI similar to google.com. Nothing before or after ever matched its capability. A real shame the product was killed. I guess there was no money to be made there.

Fool me once, ...

mhuffman•43m ago
>local search is hopelessly broken on both Windows and Mac.

Not to derail this Windows thread, but is there anything that works remotely well on Mac? The built-in options are ... lacking

y-curious•10m ago
I find the file search annoying on Mac because it doesn't search the drive I'm in on finder (skill issue? Please tell me if that's configurable)

I find cmd+space to be 10000000x better than windows for applications though

hu3•1h ago
it's hard to compete with other launchers like:

- Microsoft PowerToys Run https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys

- Keypirinha https://github.com/Keypirinha/Keypirinha

- Flow Launcher https://github.com/Flow-Launcher/Flow.Launcher

If they can index google photos and gmail too then I might try.

frfl•1h ago
If you have the top market position already in browsers and search, pretty easy to get people onto a product like this regardless of whether better alternatives exist.
balls187•1h ago
Isn't that how MS and Google lost anti-trust cases?
amluto•55m ago
Are you sure they lost? If the CEOs had perfect crystal balls and knew that those particular business practices would result in the penalties that they got in their court cases, I bet they still would have done the same things.
balls187•19m ago
Not that I am an expert in each case, but as part of the evidence was that people in leadership/decision making positions were informed that their practices and conduct was unlawful.

> Are you sure they lost?

Well, Chrome and not Microsoft's browser is the dominant webbrowser, and at the heart of MSFT's anti trust case was bundling Internet Explorer with Windows. So, yes. MS did lose.

frfl•15m ago
MS got hit kinda hard back in the 2000s right?

But since then most cases have been nothing more than slaps on the wrist? Have any major companies faced dire consequences for their anticompetitive practice.

So why would they stop using their market position in ways that benefit them and at worst result in minor fines or wrist slaps?

TheRoque•1h ago
On KDE plasma, there's KRunner (Alt + Space default), also pretty neat.
stronglikedan•57m ago
Those have traditionally been for "power" users. Google is targeting "average" users with this, I believe. And if so, I also believe this will have more installs than any (all?) of those within a year.
staindk•53m ago
Raycast is also coming to Windows at some point - https://www.raycast.com/windows
sigmar•1h ago
Bet they're anticipating that at some point in the future they might want gemini to interface with your PC (ala Claude's "computer use" and openai's "operator")
DashAnimal•1h ago
Ok gave this a try. Actually pretty handy. I wish I didn't clean up my Windows PC so I could compare indexing of files, but it did a good job of finding most things but the things I searched for Windows was able to find too. But its nice to have an easy shortcut to Google search and also having Google Lens on my PC to translate text, ask questions about a screenshot etc. I love this feature on my android.

The UI is a little annoying at times. Some apps receive the alt+space key so it doesn't always behave like you expect.

Checking Task Manager it used about 43MB of memory whether running as a background process or in the foreground, showing search results.

stronglikedan•1h ago
Sorry Google, but Alt+Space is already used by Powertoys Run. At least have the decency to pick a combo that isn't already being used by your competition. So classless, but I suppose that's par for the course.

(I know the hotkey combo is customizable, but it's still offputting that they chose that one.)

xnx•1h ago
alt+space was already a Windows window menu hotkey since Windows 3.1
altonw•1h ago
I wonder how an LLM built with this Google app would do compared to one built with Recall data. Even though it might not get the same raw info as Recall I see it having more than enough to be competitive.
zb3•58m ago
What about releasing the source of Android 16 QPR1 instead? Forgot about that one?
4899641178855•58m ago
While I'm at it, let me mail my hard drives and birth certificate to the Google offices.
lentil_soup•53m ago
Highly recommend Everything instead. It's so freaking fast, can search by keywords, can sort by time change to see what files are being touched in real time, can search any "cloud" file if you have them locally ... And no ads!

https://www.voidtools.com/downloads/

bitpush•11m ago
Does it have Gemini?
trollbridge•39m ago
… in other words, submit all of the data on your PC to Google to train their LLMs on.
TYPE_FASTER•35m ago
Exactly what I was wondering.

Also, they are probably trying to figure out how to replace search traffic that switched to ChatGPT.

bitpush•8m ago
Since you're on HN, I assume you have a bit of curiosity so I encourage you to think beyond the first order effect of some of these news.

It isnt as much as "omg, we need more data!!" but as some of the other comments show, it is _probably_ part of a larger defensive move where most LLMs are moving into controlling-the-pc domain. OpenAI has something, Claude has something, so it is reasonable to expect Google to do something as well. The fact that it is Gemini is another clue that it is indeed that.

aragonite•39m ago
Please consider making the UI respect the user's custom text scaling settings for accessibility. I'm not referring to DPI scaling but the TextScaleFactor value at HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Accessibility (see [1][2]) that users can set in Ease of Access > Display > Make text bigger.

(Failing that, adding basic support for scaling text or UI via ctrl+plus/minus would be a huge improvement!)

With the exception of Chromium/Chrome [3] this's been a persistent issue with Windows desktop apps from Google (most of these also use hard-coded control sizes making the problem worse).

[1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/design/input/...

[2] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/uwp/api/windows.ui.viewman...

[3] https://issues.chromium.org/issues/40586200

caminanteblanco•10m ago
Finally a competitor to spotlight search on Mac
lxgr•8m ago
I believe Raycast (which I like a lot on macOS) also has an upcoming Windows version.
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Google Toolbar is back, baby!
jaybna•6m ago
Looks like they forgot to scrub an old confirmation page too - I can still join Google+! https://www.google.com/toolbar/ie/done.html

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