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Start all of your commands with a comma (2009)

https://rhodesmill.org/brandon/2009/commands-with-comma/
256•theblazehen•2d ago•85 comments

Hoot: Scheme on WebAssembly

https://www.spritely.institute/hoot/
26•AlexeyBrin•1h ago•2 comments

OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

https://openciv3.org/
706•klaussilveira•15h ago•206 comments

The Waymo World Model

https://waymo.com/blog/2026/02/the-waymo-world-model-a-new-frontier-for-autonomous-driving-simula...
969•xnx•21h ago•558 comments

Vocal Guide – belt sing without killing yourself

https://jesperordrup.github.io/vocal-guide/
69•jesperordrup•6h ago•31 comments

Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback

https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.12501
7•onurkanbkrc•47m ago•0 comments

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https://floedb.ai/blog/how-we-made-geo-joins-400-faster-with-h3-indexes
135•matheusalmeida•2d ago•35 comments

Where did all the starships go?

https://www.datawrapper.de/blog/science-fiction-decline
45•speckx•4d ago•36 comments

Unseen Footage of Atari Battlezone Arcade Cabinet Production

https://arcadeblogger.com/2026/02/02/unseen-footage-of-atari-battlezone-cabinet-production/
68•videotopia•4d ago•7 comments

Welcome to the Room – A lesson in leadership by Satya Nadella

https://www.jsnover.com/blog/2026/02/01/welcome-to-the-room/
39•kaonwarb•3d ago•30 comments

ga68, the GNU Algol 68 Compiler – FOSDEM 2026 [video]

https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/PEXRTN-ga68-intro/
13•matt_d•3d ago•2 comments

What Is Ruliology?

https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2026/01/what-is-ruliology/
45•helloplanets•4d ago•46 comments

Show HN: Look Ma, No Linux: Shell, App Installer, Vi, Cc on ESP32-S3 / BreezyBox

https://github.com/valdanylchuk/breezydemo
240•isitcontent•16h ago•26 comments

Monty: A minimal, secure Python interpreter written in Rust for use by AI

https://github.com/pydantic/monty
238•dmpetrov•16h ago•126 comments

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https://vecti.com
340•vecti•18h ago•149 comments

Hackers (1995) Animated Experience

https://hackers-1995.vercel.app/
506•todsacerdoti•23h ago•248 comments

Sheldon Brown's Bicycle Technical Info

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/
389•ostacke•22h ago•98 comments

Show HN: If you lose your memory, how to regain access to your computer?

https://eljojo.github.io/rememory/
304•eljojo•18h ago•188 comments

Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

https://github.com/microsoft/litebox
361•aktau•22h ago•186 comments

An Update on Heroku

https://www.heroku.com/blog/an-update-on-heroku/
428•lstoll•22h ago•284 comments

Cross-Region MSK Replication: K2K vs. MirrorMaker2

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3•andmarios•4d ago•1 comments

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https://martypc.blogspot.com/2024/09/pc-floppy-copy-protection-vault-prolok.html
71•kmm•5d ago•10 comments

Was Benoit Mandelbrot a hedgehog or a fox?

https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.01122
23•bikenaga•3d ago•11 comments

Dark Alley Mathematics

https://blog.szczepan.org/blog/three-points/
96•quibono•4d ago•22 comments

The AI boom is causing shortages everywhere else

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/02/07/ai-spending-economy-shortages/
26•1vuio0pswjnm7•2h ago•16 comments

How to effectively write quality code with AI

https://heidenstedt.org/posts/2026/how-to-effectively-write-quality-code-with-ai/
271•i5heu•18h ago•219 comments

Delimited Continuations vs. Lwt for Threads

https://mirageos.org/blog/delimcc-vs-lwt
34•romes•4d ago•3 comments

I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams

https://kirkville.com/i-now-assume-that-all-ads-on-apple-news-are-scams/
1079•cdrnsf•1d ago•461 comments

Introducing the Developer Knowledge API and MCP Server

https://developers.googleblog.com/introducing-the-developer-knowledge-api-and-mcp-server/
64•gfortaine•13h ago•30 comments

Understanding Neural Network, Visually

https://visualrambling.space/neural-network/
306•surprisetalk•3d ago•44 comments
Open in hackernews

Wheels for free-threaded Python now available for psutil

https://gmpy.dev/blog/2025/wheels-for-free-threaded-python-now-available-in-psutil
72•grodola•3mo ago

Comments

zahlman•3mo ago
Wow, long time no see.

psutil is a great project and I do have some future plans involving it.

simonw•3mo ago
https://hugovk.github.io/free-threaded-wheels/ is looking pretty healthy - 130 of the 360 most downloaded C extension PyPI packages are now free-threaded Python compatible, up from 92 on 15th August https://web.archive.org/web/20250815071755/https://hugovk.gi...

I was curious as to how that site works - it has a build script at https://github.com/hugovk/free-threaded-wheels/blob/cdae0b45... which checks the PyPI available file downloads for a package and looks for a bdist_wheel that matches this:

  abi_tag = download["filename"].removesuffix(".whl").split("-")[-2]
  if abi_tag.endswith("t") and abi_tag.startswith("cp31"):
      has_free_threaded_wheel = True
rogerbinns•3mo ago
Note that free threaded compatible doesn't necessarily mean the package supports free threading (concurrent execution), just that it can be loaded into a free threaded interpreter.

This is the case with my own package which is on the hugovk list (apsw) which will cause the GIL to be re-enabled if you load it into a free threaded Python. The reason I provide a binary wheel is so that you don't have to keep separate GIL full and free threaded interpreters around. They have a different ABI so you can't use extensions compiled against one with the other.

Free threading is at the beginning of its journey. There is a *lot* of work to on all C code that works with Python objects, and the current documentation and tools are immature. It is especially the case that anyone doing Python concurrent object mutation can cause corruption and crashes if they try, and that more auditing and locking need to be done in the C code. Even modules in the standard library have only been partially updated.

You can see a lot details and discussion in the comments at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45633311

LtWorf•3mo ago
Why do you provide it at all then if it's not working as intended yet?
rogerbinns•3mo ago
As I stated:

> so that you don't have to keep separate GIL full and free threaded interpreters around

It means the user doesn't have to keep two Pythons around, install packages in both of them, etc.

It is also possible with the free threaded Python to keep the GIL disabled even if a package such as mine says it needs the GIL. And my package will indeed work just fine, until you supply it with mutable data and concurrently modify it in another thread.

cyanydeez•3mo ago
Do you atleast warn users? This sounds like madness.
rogerbinns•3mo ago
Yes. The interpreter warns by default, and requires steps to disable the warning. My release notes say that the GIL will be enabled when the package is loaded.

Is it madness that other packages claim they support running without the GIL, yet it is possible to cause corruption and crashes just by writing concurrent Python code? That is the case with the standard library. Compiler thread sanitizers don't work with free threaded Python. Diligent code inspection by humans is the only way to update C code so far.

Free threading is at the beginning of the project. It works. You get slow downs in single threaded performance due to extra locking, and speedups in concurrent performance due to threading. But it is possible to cause corruption and crashes via Python code. Don't expose it to untrusted data and code.

But do investigate it and see what works well and what doesn't. See what code patterns are now possible. Help improve the tools and documentation. It had to start somewhere, and the current state is somewhere.

LtWorf•3mo ago
I think what you are doing is hiding problems. I think crashes and bugs are preferable to find the issues at this point. People who want the safe option will run the regular python.
rogerbinns•3mo ago
I provide 3 options:

1) Use regular GIL Python and you get the highest levels of integrity and correctness of operation of my package

2) Use a free threaded Python, the GIL will be enabled at load time, and you get the highest levels of integrity and correctness

3) Use a free threaded Python, and set $PYTHON_GIL=0 or start with -Xgil=0 to keep the GIL disabled, and providing you do not do concurrent mutation of data provided to my package, you get the highest levels of integrity and correctness

BTW I did not randomly choose to provide the free threaded builds. I specifically asked the setuptools maintainers (under the Python Packaging Authority) how to prevent free threaded builds for PyPI. They encouraged me to do the free threaded builds so that a user doesn't to have maintain parallel regular and free threaded Python installations. And it allows option 3 above.

LtWorf•3mo ago
But the users install the free threaded python to do free threaded stuff. The second they use your package they have a GIL again, which entirely defeats the point.

Wouldn't it be much better to just not support it if it's not supported?

rogerbinns•3mo ago
What is better:

1) Saying your package supports free threading, but it isn't safe - ie concurrent mutation can result in corruption and crashes

2) Allowing the package to be loaded into a free threaded Python, which immediately enables the GIL. Concurrent mutation does not result in corruption and crashes because of the GIL. The user doesn't have to maintain two Python installations. They can set the environment variable PYTHON_GIL=0 or start Python with -Xgil=0 which will keep the GIL disabled, and they will be fine if they avoid concurrent mutation.

I chose 2. The stdlib json package (along with many others) picked 1. Heck I'll guarantee that most that picked 1 aren't 100% safe either, because doing the changes is hard work, *every* case has to be covered, and tools like thread sanitizers don't work.

The reason I chose 2 is because I care about data integrity. I will eventually reach 1, but only once I can be certain the code is correct.

LtWorf•3mo ago
3) Saying your package doesn't support free threading instead of adding a GIL and force the users to stick to regular python.
rogerbinns•3mo ago
You aren't forced to use a GIL as I keep stating. You can set an environment variable or a command line flag to Python and the GIL will remain disabled. My package will work just fine if you do that, unless you provide it with data you concurrently modify in which case you can get corruption and crashes.
semiinfinitely•3mo ago
It has never been clear to me what the term "wheels" means in software releases. seems like something along the lines of "thing that works" – does it mean anything more specific than that?
woodruffw•3mo ago
It's a Python packaging specific term. A "wheel" is a built distribution, which in the most basic sense just means that it can be unarchived directly into a Python import prefix instead of needing a build step (historically `setup.py`) to prepare it for installation.

In practice, many built distributions contain binary artifacts (e.g. builds of CPython extensions). This differentiates them from source distributions, where you'd build the extension from source on your local machine.

zahlman•3mo ago
> In practice, many built distributions contain binary artifacts (e.g. builds of CPython extensions). This differentiates them from source distributions

This seems like a good opportunity to mention that that the wheel isn't required to contain any non-Python content, and indeed it's strongly preferred to provide one even (I would say "especially") when there is no meaningful "build step" (https://pradyunsg.me/blog/2022/12/31/wheels-are-faster-pure-...). There are of course abandoned legacy projects around from before the option was available, that may never get fixed. But developers of new code in pure Python should ensure they understand the system.

(I would strongly prefer if we could have a single type of package artifact with an optional post-install hook for building any needed non-Python content. Alas....)

woodruffw•3mo ago
Yeah, I was simplifying. Wheels are in many ways a strictly better alternative to source distributions even in the “pure” case!
borntyping•3mo ago
It doesn't mean anything useful in this context. It's a leftover from when PyPI was called "the cheeseshop", which in turn was a reference to a Monty Python sketch.
morkalork•3mo ago
Cheese wheels?! TIL. Also, for once it isn't a car analogy.
zahlman•3mo ago
"Wheel" is the Python-specific terminology for a pre-built package (all non-Python code has been compiled ahead of time, and the necessary object files put in the right places in the package's folder hierarchy), such that installers can simply copy the files (and do a little bit of book-keeping, and possibly pre-compile Python source code to bytecode although the interpreter will do that on demand anyway). The format is originally documented in https://peps.python.org/pep-0427/ .

This contrasts with "sdist", short for "source distribution", which potentially contains code in other languages which must be compiled on the end user's machine (which possibly involves downloading a corresponding build system and setting up a temporary build environment at install time).

Wheel and sdist distributions are successors to a legacy "egg" format. The PEP doesn't explain, but it's commonly held that the name "wheel" is a reference to wheels of cheese, based on PyPI's prior existence as "the cheese shop" (itself a reference to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz1JWzyvv8A). There might be some ancient discussion on the (now archived and inactive) mailing list to support this.