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The gruesome new data on tech jobs

https://www.businessinsider.com/gruesome-tech-jobs-data-scientists-analytics-indeed-2025-11
33•pseudolus•1h ago

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rogerrogerr•1h ago
Can anyone convince me this is truly an effect of AI, and not just pullback from the mass hiring during and following ZIRP in 2021-23ish? I understand either cause makes it a bad time to be a junior, but would like to hear the argument _against_ "AI is taking our jobs".

(I suspect some very junior jobs have genuinely been taken by AI, but it seems to me that the driving factor is still a return-to-mean after ZIRP).

missedthecue•30m ago
If it were 2018, I personally would have made 3 SWE hires in the last 12 months. The reason I didn't need to is because of LLMs. Not budget, not anything else. I don't think AI is so much to blame for layoffs, but I do think it is a huge component of the slow hiring. There's just less demand for coders.
coolThingsFirst•24m ago
No tech is dead, 2015 i got endless interviews with a barely functional chrome extension. Today your expected to know everything.
blowsand•14m ago
Particularly spelling and grammar.
doubled112•5m ago
I wish I could hang out in the server closet, going long periods of time without coworker interaction, but you can't get far like that.

Communication skills matter.

rubyfan•14m ago
No. ZIRP hangover all the way.

AI is just a plausible scapegoat that sounds hip.

jmugan•35m ago
Maybe they are just calling the jobs by different names? It seems like names of roles are constantly shifting. "Data scientist" is a term that is going out of fashion.
kulahan•33m ago
Pretty large claim to insinuate Indeed can't even tell when their own users are simply shifting terms around...

This is the company so large, their jobs data was used in lieu of the Fed's jobs data when the gov was shut down.

impure•31m ago
I’ve actually seen an increase in recruiter emails in Toronto. Not sure if it’s just me though.
dan-robertson•29m ago
Is Indeed seeing much of the tech job market? I never considered looking for a job there over LinkedIn.
paxys•14m ago
Jobs don't have to be exclusive to a single site. Pretty much every job gets posted everywhere (usually done automatically by your HRIS/ATS software). Job boards will even scrape each other for postings. LinkedIn is notorious for this, which is why it has so many outdated listings.
bpt3•22m ago
Those are not "tech jobs" for the most part, they are business support jobs.

Data scientist is an exception based on title, but in my experience there are a large number of people with that title who have never heard of the scientific method, let alone could apply it with any rigor.

I'm sure LLMs are taking some of these jobs, but a lot of the decrease is probably due to general cutbacks on overhead and a realization that they produce limited value.

bgwalter•14m ago
We were told that "everyone needs to learn how to code", to the thunderous applause of all corporate stooges.

It is hard to tell what is really going on. No company will admit that they are firing, e.g., DEI hires from 2023. I have seen some open source CoC loudmouths being fired, but that is not enough to establish a large trend.

paxys•7m ago
Original source instead of Business Insider blogspam - https://www.hiringlab.org/2025/11/20/indeed-2026-us-jobs-hir...

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