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Synadia and TigerBeetle Pledge $512,000 to the Zig Software Foundation

https://tigerbeetle.com/blog/2025-10-25-synadia-and-tigerbeetle-pledge-512k-to-the-zig-software-foundation/
41•cratermoon•2h ago

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morkalork•43m ago
Can I hop in here and ask: As someone who hasn't done any systems programming in a decade, what would be more interesting to learn on the side, Zig or Rust? I've been in the Python world and seeing tools like uv and ruff, makes me biased towards Rust but Zig seems to be attracting a lot of hype recently?
letmetweakit•27m ago
I’d choose Rust because of the better safety guarantees and nice tooling.
mutkach•26m ago
More information is needed to give proper advice:

- Do you like filling out the type annotations in Python (making sure linter check passes)? Do you like TYPES in general?

- Do you like working with memory (crushing memory bugs, solving leaks)?

- Do you prefer imperative or functional approach more?

morkalork•13m ago
IMO type checking is the best thing to happen to Python in recent memory and eliminates a whole class of developer errors. Getting linters to pass 100% also scratches a weird itch for me, like collecting items in a video game haha.

I do like working with memory, seeing a custom slab allocator used in production code was one of the more interesting aspects of little experience I had with c++ but always having to "on guard" to not shoot myself in the foot with pointer manipulation was kind of exhausting.

I like both.

simonw•23m ago
There was an interesting post comparing Zig and Rust and Go here yesterday: https://sinclairtarget.com/blog/2025/08/thoughts-on-go-vs.-r...

Hacker News discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46153466

grayhatter•21m ago
Why not learn both?

For hobby projects, zig will get you *much* closer to the underlying system. So if your goal is systems programming where you're responsible for and get to play with the system itself. Zig will get you there much faster, and the language wont take much time to learn and have fun with.

Surely someone will now attempt to correct me, by asserting it's impossible for anyone to write safe code without rust, and it's improper for me to even suggest Zig. But I'm enjoying the language a lot. It's easy to pick up and understand, and importantly it gets out of your way quickly so you can build exactly the system you want.

For more complex or professional projects however, I would still recommend Zig but more because I can't stand rust. It bothers me that it rejects valid programs because the compiler is unable to prove what I can. So the additional dance rust requires ruins an otherwise fine language.

edit: my default language before zig was also python, so feels reasonable to also mention that I'm pretty sure it'll be significantly easier to transition from python into Zig rather than into rust. There's a number of idioms and expectations from python that fit well in zig, but dont fit in rust.

matklad•14m ago
You need to learn both. Both borrow checker (Rust) and comptime (Zig) are huge ideas worth getting your hands dirty with.

If you don't have time to learn both, then learn Zig, as it requires much smaller time investment (though do try to find time for both).

the__alchemist•13m ago
Short answer: If you like to use pointers in business logic (E.g. not just for MMIO and addressing physical memory): Zig. Otherwise: Rust.

Note that there are a number of domains where Zig might be a practical option in the future, but aren't now due to library support. With Rust, you will reinvent wheels more than most people have an appetite for. In Zig, you will do this for most things.

davemp•39m ago
Very good news. Happy to see Zig getting more investment. I already use the build system for production systems and am looking forward to writing some more Zig when projects allow.

Having a modern language that attempts to directly model low level systems is very important.

bikeshaving•32m ago
I’m guessing they chose $512,000 because “512” is a power of 2 and systems programmers love that sort of shit, but 2^19 is 524,288. I mean $12,288 is not insignificant but it would have been cooler.
Taek•23m ago
I'm not sure how many people would recognize 524,288 as a power of 2, but probably many fewer than the number of people who would recognize 512 as a power of 2
quesera•11m ago
Ever the quandary: satisfy a few people completely, or more people incompletely.

I concur with the suggestion of 2^19, because even though fewer people would recognize it immediately, many of them would question the significance, and it the eventual realization would be more satisfying.

cedws•5m ago
Maybe they count like storage manufacturers. 512 kilobytes instead of kibibytes :)
esafak•30m ago
Oh, interesting. Is NATS moving to Zig??
kryps•21m ago
Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45703926

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Synadia and TigerBeetle Pledge $512,000 to the Zig Software Foundation

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