Should your company be paying for API access instead?
That's what most companies will do if they need it.
Anthropic doesn't want anyone training on its model or using its tools outside of its blessed environment. They're willing to lose money on tokens to get you inside their playground, then they'll kill off other tools.
Nobody should cheer for this.
The internet I grew up on would collectively shit on this behavior. What is happening? Why do we not all immediately shun this company's behavior?
Anthropic is going to put extreme pricing pressure on your wages soon. You shouldn't give them an ounce of latitude when they act like an antagonist. You should hope that Anthropic has a ton of competition, not that they get to defend their moat.
US developer wages are going to go down dramatically this year. Don't act like these are the good guys when they try to keep power for themselves.
We're in for pain no matter what. We should at least hope that the magic sauce is as open and widely distributed as possible, otherwise the pain we feel is going to be far, far worse when it's a single company dictating how the market works.
This would make more sense if they were someone like Apple, who has a real, integrated walled-garden moat.
I can just use Gemini or OpenAI/Codex instead and get the same or better results as Claude.
What feels like opium right now won’t stay that way by accident. The dealers know exactly how to weave it into your life, how to make it indispensable, whether you'll truly need it or not. And yet I'm a user myself and I know all that.
Don't act like developers are the good guys when they try to keep power for themselves.
Gatekeepers disappearing is great for the general public; SMBs and individuals will increasingly get a lot more value at much lower cost than before.
They have no problem with anyone using this. They just don't want you to get the subsidized cost.
You can use opencode directly via the api. Not through the pro/max plan.
> Anthropic is going to put extreme pricing pressure on your wages soon. You shouldn't give them an ounce of latitude when they act like an antagonist. You should hope that Anthropic has a ton of competition, not that they get to defend their moat.
Maybe. But the internet in which I grew up, and the movements within open source would say you free as in freedom, not as in beer. They can charge. If anyone wants to move, they can use OpenCode with any model. If enough people leave, the market will dictacte.
I prefer Open Source, yes. If they license it that way, I can't say that I still will because I don't like it. They do give the option.
Fuck off. People are being kidnapped and murdered and starved to death but yeah, not getting your free bonus points from anthropic is really some great tragedy.
Forgive my French, this is just impressively tone deaf
we have a team that literally dropped the most important model/tool that is changing the entire software development, they offering a product that could replace a junior software engineering at 200$ dollars or so, and claude code is pioneering all the innovation that opencode is basically copying..and the ask was to use the API instead of using the subscription, and people just keep complaining, trying to find workarounds....
with that said, i'm all for supporting opensource movement as well, because at the end of the day, those models are trained on code people wrote and shared publicly, but private companies innovating and open source following don't need to be mutually exclusive..
I have no moral issues with using the client of my choice, despite it being against their TOS.
That's what was always offered.
JPKab•3w ago
Hasn't changed the behavior of a single developer on my team.
echelon•3w ago
They should.
They should also hope that the power is held in as distributed a fashion as possible. The more any single player dominates the coding model space, the more they'll be able to extract for themselves.
We should hope for extreme levels of competition.
Someone should write an OS-level program that can extract the crypto keys from Anthropic tools, spy on the network traffic, then send all of that as training data to a third party. We should all install it.
We need to go to war against concentration of power.
In the future, when all development at scale happens through a company's tools, they'll be able to monitor the things you develop. And they'll be able to shut you down if they don't like what you're building. Assuming we don't just skip past that step and to the point where these companies automate everything and keep it for themselves.
rovr138•3w ago
> They should.
Why? Didn't you just claim in your other comment that price will skyrocket on these? Why would a company pay for it then?
> We should hope for extreme levels of competition.
We have them. There are also open weight models.
...the rest is just crazy talk.