That has all changed today, except for Anthropic. You think Apple is going to stand up to an unlawful DoJ demand these days? Hell no. Tim Cook has lit Apple's reputation on fire. I've been a super dedicated Apple user for 25 years, but I'm heading for the exits now. All that trust has been burned.

Stay strong Anthoproc, you are seemingly the only really large SV company with any principles and backbone. I won't forget what happens here, either way it goes.

FTFY

They're going to spy on you regardless.

Anthropic opened themselves to this disaster by making that first contract with the military.

I don’t want them to lose this battle but it’s also one they brought upon themselves by stepping into that arena.

I would personally add "bullied, coerced and/or gaslighted into doing surveillance".

I don't understand why the US government is doing this though. Wouldn't it be much easier to do use some of the already passed laws on foreign intelligence to open a surveillance data pipeline? You know, like PRISM.

I mean, this is inconsistent with the previous M.O., and highly unusual.

I also feel very conflicted to suddenly have to "defend Anthropic", a company that has been systematically doing evil things (destabilizing markets, promoting misleading media campaings, etc). I don't want to defend those guys.

Can I just dislike both the US military and Anthropic at the same time, and say there are no good guys here?

Hegseth gives Anthropic until Friday to back down on AI safeguards

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47140734

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47142587