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Australia Four-Day Work Week Study Data Shows Boosted Productivity

https://scienceaim.com/australia-just-proved-the-four-day-work-week-works-here-is-what-the-data-actually-says/
62•randycupertino•2h ago

Comments

ktallett•44m ago
Basically every study shows a four day week works best. The issue is why we never go with what the study shows.
t-writescode•29m ago
Because if we did we’d have universal healthcare, 4 day work weeks, WFH where possible, walkable cities, and a lot more housing, and every single one of those things makes it harder for abusive jobs to control their employees.
toomuchtodo•13m ago
Progress is a functioning of effort, time, and luck. It’s a marathon. Keep grinding. Success is proven possible.
latexr•3m ago
> universal healthcare, 4 day work weeks, WFH where possible, walkable cities, and a lot more housing

My my, seems like we gots ourselves a socialist o’er here. We don’t take kindly to your kind ’round these parts. What’s yer idea? Improve folks lives? Treat others with respect and dignity and give e’ryone a meaning? Are ya cuckoo in tha head? Git him, boys.

cluckindan•21m ago
By inductive logic, a zero day week works best.
danielmarkbruce•16m ago
"study"... The replication crises in science has shown that most studies are total bs. So we probably don't want to go with them.
zurfer•13m ago
Naive question but if it works best wouldn't companies that have a four day work week outperform theirs peers and because of that grow faster, and become more common?

I see the opposite in most startups that have a 6 day work week to get ahead of the "slowly moving" 5 day work week competition.

aeternum•43m ago
Papers like this should be called opinion surveys.

Calling it a study is a disservice to science. As Feynman said, anything where they have to put science as a suffix is usually not science.

latexr•14m ago
> As Feynman said, anything where they have to put science as a suffix is usually not science.

I appreciate Feynman’s contributions—and in fact have been recently revisiting the Messenger lectures—but that seems like an unnecessary jab. The use of “usually” is also a convenient cop-out which makes the remark meaningless because the speaker can pick and choose in any conversation so they always win.¹

I thought about it and picked the first thing which came to mind: Natural science. From Wikipedia²:

> Natural science or empirical science is a branch of science concerned with the description, understanding, and prediction of natural phenomena, based on empirical evidence from observation and experimentation. Mechanisms such as peer review and reproducibility of findings are used to try to ensure the validity of scientific advances.

Seems pretty scientific to me. But alright, let’s check the article to give it a fair shot in context. The only time the word “science” comes up is “Social Sciences”. Again from Wikipedia³:

> Social science (or the social sciences) is one of the branches of science, devoted to the study of societies and the relationships among members within those societies. The term was formerly used to refer to the field of sociology, the original "science of society", established in the 18th century. It now encompasses a wide array of additional academic disciplines, including anthropology, archaeology, economics, geography, history, linguistics, management, communication studies, psychology, sociology, culturology, and political science.

That’s a wide range. Are all of those “not science”?

¹ Assuming your rephrasing is accurate and not missing important context.

² https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_science

³ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_science

eastbound•7m ago
It’s not a wide range: They don’t repudiate each other.

I’d trust climate science if climate scientists stood and picketed and denounced social sciences as “not science”, due to non respected scientific protocol. I mean it’s easy: If you can publish 28 chapters of Mein Kampf in social science papers after changing “___” for “white men”, and get it peer reviewed and published, then it’s not science.

But no. Climate scientists, social scientists, and doctors who claimed masks “didn’t protect against Covid19” (literal words of the international organization of all doctors united), they all stand together to impose “science” by …arresting opponents.

I may trust some studies. Especially when they’re directed as revenue for the scientist. “Scientist from [institute] distinguishes electron from another in order to sell a new metal” = No bias = Science. “Scientists want Europeans to consume less energy because it pollutes” = probably paid by China.

Mordisquitos•14m ago
What a hollow dismissal of based on acrobatic leaps of semantics.

The word 'study' is no sacred possession exclusive to the natural sciences, and there is nothing wrong with properly conducted surveys as a method in sociology, economics or psychology.

If surveys targeting the very people responsible for optimising their businesses' productivity, with no incentive to falsify their conclusions, is good evidence. Without any other way to systematically measure the change in productivity across a plethora of different businesses implementing a four-day workweek, it is as good as it gets — much better than purely theoretical assumptions that productivity must have dropped.

You can find the study here if you wish to critique its methods: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-026-07536-x

B1FF_PSUVM•34m ago
I remember one business class anecdote, where the conclusion of changing workplace conditions (light, music, etc. both ways) was that productivity studies increase productivity ...
gchamonlive•31m ago
Only if you do bad science experiments without a control group, otherwise you'd see the control group productivity boost as they'd also be under the same scrutiny. I didn't read the study methodology, so I'm not comparing to that, only responding to your comment in isolation.
miohtama•25m ago
It's Hawthorne effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_effect

Related to it we have novelty effect and bunch of other psychological effects that are hard to isolate in human science. In this sector, a lot of studies cannot be repeated.

yshamrei•34m ago
Won’t we face an economic decline if we continue reducing the work week even further?
cluckindan•23m ago
But how will a consulting company bill for the 20%?
umpalumpaaa•18m ago
You increase prices by 20%
rhplus•15m ago
Billable hour rates would need to increase by 25%.
ENGNR•21m ago
Australia also has a 60 year productivity low and a government that is boosting taxes on capital gains on shares/business to basically a worldwide high. So take our experiments with a grain of salt!
Mordisquitos•10m ago
So you're saying that four-day-workweek companies saw no decline in their productivity, in contrast to the Australian average productivity which went down overall‽

That means the four-day-workweek is even better than we thought it was!

panny•20m ago
>scienceaim

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oompydoompy74•11m ago
Speaking as an American, I don’t give a shit if it increases productivity or not. Productivity has gone up exponentially with technological advancement since the advent of the 5 day work week. We, as a species, should be minimizing work to 3 or 4 days a week with equal overall pay. Corporations should be fined heavily for contacting an employee after working hours. On call should require corporations to pay hefty overtime. This is a compromise because really and truly corporations should be illegal. Employee owned co-ops are more humane.
christophilus•3m ago
That would be ok in a non-globalized world. In our world, any country that implements those laws will see a lot more offshoring.

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