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I'm Tired of Talking to AI

https://orchidfiles.com/im-tired-of-ai-generated-answers/
191•theorchid•1h ago•141 comments

Mini Micro Fantasy Computer

https://miniscript.org/MiniMicro/index.html#about
59•nicoloren•1h ago•21 comments

The Melancholy of Slaying Monsters

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-strange-melancholy-of-slaying-monsters/
129•prismatic•16h ago•49 comments

Raft Consensus with a Minority of Nodes

https://padhye.org/raft-minority/
46•moarbugs•1d ago•5 comments

BadHost – CVE-2026-48710: Starlette Host-Header Auth Bypass

https://badhost.org/
71•ylk•1d ago•25 comments

Cloudflare Flagship

https://developers.cloudflare.com/flagship/
248•tjek•12h ago•131 comments

That Methyl Methacrylate Tank

https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/methyl-methacrylate-tank
345•nooks•16h ago•139 comments

What Gets Kept

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/what-jack-kerouac-left-behind
44•lermontov•2d ago•36 comments

The worst job interview I ever had

https://www.oliverio.dev/blog/the-worst-job-interview-i-had
381•oliverio•15h ago•289 comments

A few interesting modern pixel fonts

https://unsung.aresluna.org/a-few-interesting-modern-pixel-fonts/
366•zdw•1d ago•81 comments

I built a Git-tracked book production pipeline

https://www.djspeckhals.com/posts/2026-05-22-how-i-bypassed-adobe-and-microsoft-to-build-a-git-tr...
249•dustin1114•4d ago•64 comments

Claude Code as a Daily Driver: Claude.md, Skills, Subagents, Plugins, and MCPs

https://arps18.github.io/posts/claude-code-mastery/
94•arps18•6h ago•73 comments

What Is a Direct Attach Copper (DAC) Cable

https://www.servethehome.com/what-is-a-direct-attach-copper-dac-cable/
19•teleforce•1d ago•5 comments

Show HN: Posthorn, self-hosted mail without the mail server

https://github.com/craigmccaskill/posthorn
41•craigmccaskill•7h ago•32 comments

Seeking a Language in Mathematics 1523-1571

https://tyndale.org/journals/reformj01/bmarsden.html
10•jruohonen•3d ago•1 comments

Rosalind: A genomics toolkit in Rust running whole-genome pipelines on a laptop

https://github.com/logannye/rosalind
166•samuell•5d ago•44 comments

A history of obituaries in American newspapers

https://blogs.loc.gov/headlinesandheroes/2026/05/mourn-not-a-history-of-obituaries-in-american-ne...
29•NaOH•2d ago•1 comments

Launch HN: Minicor (YC P26) – Windows desktop automations at scale

https://www.minicor.com/
92•fchishtie•20h ago•56 comments

A portentous reunion

https://bcantrill.dtrace.org/2026/05/25/a-portentous-reunion/
107•cafkafk•1d ago•30 comments

Spain blocks prediction markets Polymarket, Kalshi over lack of gambling licence

https://www.reuters.com/business/spain-blocks-prediction-markets-polymarket-kalshi-over-lack-gamb...
955•thm•22h ago•447 comments

We are Poles, so, of course, we print in Latin

https://www.ustc.ac.uk/news/we-are-poles-so-of-course-we-print-in-latin
22•danielam•2d ago•1 comments

C array types are weird

https://anselmschueler.com/blogposts/2025-c-pointers/
96•signa11•2d ago•100 comments

IBM Confidential: System/360 File Organization [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zokKqP0plrM
48•DaiPlusPlus•2d ago•20 comments

Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

https://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode18.0.0/
32•birdculture•4h ago•38 comments

What I've Learned (So Far) Building Online Mini Games with Elixir and Swift

https://calvinflegal.com/2026/05/24/what-ive-learned-so-far-building-online-mini-games-with-elixi...
64•calflegal•3d ago•31 comments

Tunecat: Simple Internet Radio

https://codeberg.org/lindenii/tunecat/
54•croottree•10h ago•4 comments

TSDuck: Open-source toolkit for MPEG-TS analysis and manipulation

https://tsduck.io/
39•phantomathkg•9h ago•3 comments

Nvidia Vera CPU Benchmarks: Olympus Cores Delivering Great Performance

https://www.phoronix.com/review/nvidia-vera-benchmarks
37•naves•3h ago•15 comments

The Steinwinter Supercargo

https://www.thedrive.com/article/12603/the-forgotten-steinwinter-supercargo-is-unlike-anything-on...
77•itronitron•3d ago•24 comments

Dropbox CEO Drew Houston to step down

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/26/dropbox-ceo-drew-houston-ashraf-alkarmi.html
354•aghuang•22h ago•393 comments
Open in hackernews

I'm Tired of Talking to AI

https://orchidfiles.com/im-tired-of-ai-generated-answers/
186•theorchid•1h ago

Comments

alex_x•46m ago
thinking becomes a commodity
Jgrubb•43m ago
I think actual thinking is now more valuable than ever.
voidfunc•38m ago
Depends if you can find someone to buy that line of thinking. Theres only a market if someone recognizes one.
simondotau•43m ago
”You can outsource your thinking, but you can’t outsource your understanding” — probably some AI
Cthulhu_•18m ago
Wasn't some AI, it was Andrej Karpathy and he got it from someone else (unattributed).
simondotau•9m ago
I didn't provide a citation because its origins are unclear/unclaimed, so instead it was an opportunity for a chuckle. FWIW I first read it when this guy's tweet was retweeted by Andrej.

https://x.com/yacineMTB/status/2018886083120153046

alex_x•35m ago
I also wonder if this is so visible because a lot of people don't really care what they do and will happily use any bullshit machine to simulate work.
mschuster91•25m ago
Let's be real. Our economies are in the gutters and an insane amount of "work" is actually textbook "bullshit jobs".

However, we as a society aren't nearly ready to actually hold a conversation about that. We could probably eliminate half of all non-hands-on (i.e. a human uses their hands to manufacture a thing) employment in a matter of a year or two if we would embrace computers and digital infrastructure and give lower levels of employees more authority - and that's before AI even enters the picture. Government services are a prime example - a lot of "e government" services in Germany aren't truly digital, they generate a PDF that is printed out in some clerk's office and processed manually by copying information from that PDF into some admin program.

But unfortunately, if we were to do that, we'd run into riots faster than we could imagine. We aren't ready for a society in which we still have a small base of people that have to, literally, work (with their bodies) to keep society alive while the rest does not need to work any more.

alex_x•20m ago
I agree with that 100%
torben-friis•32m ago
Was it Sam Altman, who said that they intent exactly that? To offer intelligence as a service?

I trust myself to be hard headed enough to keep my intelligence from atrophy, but it's going to suck living in a society where most people don't (or who never developed it at all).

The other day I was at the theatre and I overheard the people next to me glad that they had the best tickets because chatgpt had advised what to buy. The big tip was choosing something centered rather than very angled. Sigh.

EarthIsHome•46m ago
Nearly half of online articles are now AI-generated. [0]

[0]: https://graphite.io/five-percent/ai-now-writes-as-many-onlin...

embedding-shape•44m ago
> We build on our prior research by using three different AI detectors (Pangram, GPTZero, Copyleaks). We independently evaluate each to show that the false positive rates and average false negative rates are consistently below 2%. Each AI detector shows a similar trend.

This is all bullshit, none of those actually work, and the false-positives rates are sky-high. I'm not sure how any serious person have tried out any of those services and came away with the impression of "Well, better than nothing" because literally, it seems the opposite.

tidewinner•36m ago
Are you an AI agent trying to gaslight us?
embedding-shape•32m ago
Just a boring old organic human tired of other organic beings falling for obvious bullshit most likely made up by machines convincing humans with something like "you really have a neat idea here, the world will appreciate you making this into a product".
lelandfe•36m ago
So if these do not work, to what do you attribute the rising positive rate?
embedding-shape•29m ago
Humans writing more like LLMs, just like new LLMs write more like humans, it's all coalescing into one.

I've copied-pasted comments I made on HN from like 2020 and had it tell me it's "100% AI". I've seen examples where the services claim "100% AI" because there was no normal dashes, only em-dashes. Even have a recent example from HN itself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48165690

> This reads very AI. Pangram [0] agrees [1]. [0] Not perfect, but I think as good evidence as any: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.15654 [1] https://www.pangram.com/history/44cd07d3-ba94-4331-8c7f-a626...

Said Pangram report literally citing the single evidence of em-dashes...

albumen•5m ago
Your evidence seems very anecdata. The graphite.io study does make an effort to quantify the false positive and false negative rates of the three detectors, rather than just saying “they work”. They generate 2000 ai articles and ask the detectors to evaluate them, measuring the false negatives (articles falsely IDd as human written); and they use a separate pre-AI dataset (years 2000-2022) to determine false positives.
dgellow•30m ago
The detectors aren’t great but they aren’t really the issue. The fact that LLMs make it so easy to impersonate human communication is precisely the problem here. There cannot be a reliable way to identify if something is from a human or not. And the ease of access and low price makes using LLM generated content a no brainer, you have to actively go out of your way to produce human generated content.

We are building a future where human contact will be scarce

embedding-shape•28m ago
> We are building a future where human contact will be scarce

Yes, until you remember there is a world outside of the screen, where people build things with their hands, use their physically to play instruments for others, paint beautiful things for others to see physically and so much more.

"Humanness" online been dead for decades already, if you want humanness you need to step outside, or at least invite other humans home.

dgellow•6m ago
There is a meaningful difference between “humans online are tribalistic” and “content consumed by humans is generated by machines”. The IRL world isn’t safe either, books, newspapers, advertising, speeches are/will be heavily LLM made. Political parties are using LLMs. The IRL humans are relying on what their LLMs summarized or searched for them.

The same way the online world has never actually been that distinct from the offline world, one is merged with the other and they influence each others.

There has been of humanness online of you do not look for it on social medias. But that’s now breaking down, because we developed a technology designed to impersonate human communication

embedding-shape•4m ago
Right, what I was talking about things that generally aren't done by AI. People aren't building sculptures with AI, no graffiti is made with AI, the oil paintings you can see in galleries aren't AI, the DJ that fucks up during a performance isn't AI.

There is so much humanity in the world outside of the screen, and it's really easy to see what is authentically made, ignore the rest. Find live events with real other humans, there are a ton of them out there, doesn't really matter how people find the events, as long as we put our bodies in the same physical space.

My_Name•26m ago
If you need an AI detector to figure out if something is AI or not, surely that means the AI is so good that there is no need to detect whether it is AI or not, because it is indistinguishable from writings by a human when read by humans?
navs•7m ago
I mean this is an article coming from an SEO company that's really just trying to advertise its services in the end. Their methodology seems very loose.
sharperguy•43m ago
I imagine something like 98% of articles also get less than 100 views. So the question is more about the articles you're reading rather than articles in general.
sibidharan•28m ago
If one cant remember what they generated, whats the point in generating? Half of those who write articles do not remember what the AI put in it... Reviewing has become a slop work by humans!
epolanski•33m ago
I'd say even half of my Youtube feed nowadays is.

1. Find some nicher but interesting topic (e.g. some historical event like Lepanto's battle)

2. Have AI generate the content of the 20 minutes video by collecting information about it online

3. Have AI generate the video

4. Have AI generate a realistic voice to comment on the video

5. Upload it without mentioning it's all AI generated

6. Have me get mad 4 minutes into the video because footage/paintings referring to that battle...do not exist at all...slowly realize it was all AI generated

fleebee•25m ago
The YouTube algorithm got unbearable to me even before the mudslide of AI content.

I highly recommend using an extension like Unhook and disabling all algorithmic recommendations such as the Home feed, sidebar/endscreen recommendations etc. The only way I interface with YouTube now is through the subscriptions page which shows me videos from creators I follow in chronological order.

chadgpt3•18m ago
There is a "do not recommend this channel" option somewhere
Cthulhu_•20m ago
This is good information, but a bit superficial - before AI, what percentage of online articles were generated from templates? What was written by content generation farms? Fiverrr and co pay-per-word writers?

I suspect that market has been more affected than anything.

outime•46m ago
>I’m tired of talking to AI.

>I want to talk to real people.

Good luck with that while on the internet - that's only going to get worse. The bright side is that this may make all of us touch grass more often.

mrweasel•33m ago
The internet isn't going to die out, but it feels like it's becoming a place where you go to do a specific task and then you check out again.

One interesting observation from myself: I don't "browse" the internet anymore. I go read specific sites, order something, or do some task. So my internet usage is way down, but I also don't watch a lot of TV or streaming content anymore, because I can't really deal with it. There's to much of it, the acting is bad, the writing is bad, everything is just a rehash (Cinematography is beautiful though). So now I just read, preferably books written before the year 2000.

chadgpt3•14m ago
It used to be like this, during the golden age of the internet. We didn't have it anywhere, we had it on a computer on our desk. We had to sit down at that desk to use it. Eventually we would get up again and be offline.

Bringing connectivity everywhere has many obvious advantages, but it's also sucked away the rest of life.

untitled-now•45m ago
Talking to AI can be useful , but depends on how one uses it :)
phoronixrly•44m ago
Thanks, if I want to talk to an LLM I will do so specifically.
specproc•42m ago
The article, if you'd read it, was about receiving the same response to a technical question from multiple sources, whilst seeking human assistance with a problem AI hadn't been able to solve.
niekiepriekie•35m ago
“Stop changing my code you st*d piece of s*t. And stop pushing that youtube garbage like i’m some 5 year old” - me against gemini. But he, helps with my anger management.
hypfer•31m ago
Being able to just bluntly tell it in very colorful language that its neurotic cargo-culting phobia of imaginary things is something that needs to stop is such a breath of fresh air after the dark ages of 2017.
eliotthbyrnes•41m ago
Hot take - who still actually uses the actual chat features for general conversation in the dev community?
hootz•36m ago
How do you define general conversation? I have used the Gemini web chat yesterday to review and generate a report about multiple credit card statements.
RugnirViking•26m ago
depends what you mean. I regularly ask it to explain stuff, terminology I don't recognize etc. I also ask it about neat things it did, terminal commands etc so I can do them when I want to. That's chat in some sense, no? its not all "write this code"
mrweasel•39m ago
For something like customer service, I can understand why an AI would be deploy, not that I think it should, but why are so many running things like Reddit bots?

A few bots here and there for experimentation, sure, but as someone else pointed out, almost half of everything online is now AI generated. To some extend if it's not worth spending a persons time producing, I don't think whatever it is that you generated needs to exist.

cedws•35m ago
There’s more mass manipulation AKA nudge campaigns going on than ever. Plus, there’s a market for “aged” (forgot the term they actually used) accounts that look authentic.
mrweasel•29m ago
Are you suggesting that people have bots answering question on place like AskReddit in an effort to nudge society in a certain direction? That would explain why much of Reddit, Instagram and Facebook is so completely unhinged, but that is just a wild way of influencing the world, and to what end?
philipwhiuk•27m ago
> and to what end?

Anarchism / destabilisation.

mrweasel•22m ago
Well, they're doing an excellent job then.
coldtea•9m ago
Likely the classics: voting a certain way, supporting a certain state, supporting a certain cause, and buying things.
mapontosevenths•31m ago
I think some of them are actually run by Reddit directly. They couldn't find any way to keep making 'line go up', so they decided they could sumulate growth by machine translating Indian users to English and vice versa.

I think they're translating between users transparently to make it look like it's not a ghost town, and the machine translation reads like bot text.

I could be wrong, it's just a guess.

Cthulhu_•23m ago
You're probably right, as Reddit has or wants to go to the stock market and they need to demonstrate line going up, even if it's fake.

Because even fake / generated content gets impressions, comments, upvotes, etc, which is the kind of metrics they optimize for.

CSMastermind•13m ago
AI customer service bots are awful. Their only redeeming feature is how bad most customer service processes already are.
coldtea•12m ago
>For something like customer service, I can understand why an AI would be deployed

I can't. And the only reason you can, is because we've been accustomed to rote script-based zero quality human customer service first.

t_macc•38m ago
I'm tired of talking ABOUT AI.
hamburgererror•27m ago
Does AI talk about us?
Cthulhu_•22m ago
Yup: https://openclawbook.io/
chadgpt3•19m ago
This was mostly written by humans impersonating AIs as a publicity stunt.
hamburgererror•4m ago
I feel this mise en abyme can go pretty far
Cthulhu_•22m ago
That's alright, nobody's making you. You can choose to disengage.
p2detar•37m ago
> I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer. I replied that it had nothing to do with my question and everything there was wrong. A minute later he sent me another ChatGPT screenshot. He didn’t even read the AI’s answer.

That's just rude and borderline psychotic behavior.

It's still a bit better at my workplace but irritating nonetheless - my boss would "research" a feature and prep notes in our wiki with some gemini chatbot exchanges attached. This is a of course no specification, but it's supposed to be a good base point to start working on the feature. Gemini already chose the coding libraries and concepts, so to the outsider it just seems like all that's needed is to code that into the product. Of course, it's not that simple and it mostly gets in the way rather than help. But now questions arise why is the feature not ready yet, when "the plan" is already there and so obvious.

hamburgererror•37m ago
Face reality my friend, Internet is now hostile to humans. Time to leave this place for good.
ccozan•31m ago
Yes and then we refuge in the physical meat space until the robots would be indistiguishing from humans.

Sounds like a movie plot, or is Bladerunner all over.

Cthulhu_•19m ago
At least the internet is not one single place, and while I can't speak for anyone I think I've managed to avoid most of the AI generated internet.
coldtea•7m ago
Even the human generated content is written by humans increasingly influenced by AI generated content
hamburgererror•6m ago
How? I'm genuinely interested.
Octoth0rpe•5m ago
> I think I've managed to avoid most of the AI generated internet.

I honestly am not sure that one can know that that is true anymore. Probably the only place left that I have any confidence in is maybe the small discords I'm in with various friend groups with <30 people that all know each other IRL.

xen_relay•36m ago
A bit off topic, but I am currently travelling through Europe by train. It is such a boon to just be outside everyday and meet locals and fellow travellers. Highly recommend.
Invictus0•31m ago
I am also traveling through Europe, currently in Budapest. Twice now in the last week, I have heard AI music being played through the speakers at restaurants.
Cthulhu_•26m ago
That's probably to be expected, before that they used covers of popular songs, likely produced by a company that offers much lower rates than e.g. the original artists.

I prefer silence over that tbh.

kingkongjaffa•24m ago
AI K-pop was in the cafes in Seoul.
rob74•20m ago
Well, I think I couldn't distinguish AI music from the good (or bad) old human-made "elevator music", but maybe I'm mistaken and it would stand out to me when I hear it...
dgellow•26m ago
Hope the heat doesn’t impact your travel plans too much. Feel free to reach out if you’re around Hamburg, always happy to meet HNers
alex_x•18m ago
lmk if you ever visit Zürich :)
chadgpt3•13m ago
How do you find the language barrier problem? Do you speak English to everyone you meet?
embedding-shape•7m ago
Highly depends on the country. Go to Sweden and you'll have a hard time even practicing Swedish, as soon as the natives discover you're also not a native, they'll switch to English immediately in most places of the country.

On the other hand, go to Spain outside the metropolitan areas and besides the youth, most people won't understand and can't speak English.

Then you have places like France, where even if many of them know English, they'll just refuse to speak English, unless it's an emergency, then English comes out of them with no problem. Then some French tourists also like to travel down to the North of Spain and try to talk French with us, for some reason. I cannot even count these occurrences on one hand anymore.

It really depends on the country and maybe more importantly, rural vs metropolitan areas.

hypfer•34m ago
AI has "just" greatly accelerated/amplified dysfunction that was already there previously.

Even before AI, you often weren't truly talking with other real people on the web. Even if it was an actual human that responded, online tribalism led to erasure of said human-ness.

So from that standpoint, being exhausted by not talking to real humans might be good or at least necessary.

dabbledash•10m ago
The sad thing is it happens in real life too. You'll talk to people and it's like 25% of their brain has been taken over by a parasite that replicates itself by amplifying their tribe's Talking Point of The Day. You have to just wait for them to get it out and then you can talk to the real person again.
CachedaCodes•34m ago
I think using AI to help you write or rewrite something you want to convey is fine, the difference is using it as a replacement of thinking instead of a tool.

The screenshots part is crazy.

tjpnz•22m ago
If you're not able to convey it maybe you haven't spent long enough thinking about it?
coldtea•6m ago
Helping you "write or rewrite something you want to convey" is already using it as a replacement of thinking.
sibidharan•33m ago
AI made writing cheap, but it's a human thing to validate, research and respond! It's human slop! Not AI slop!
epolanski•18m ago
True, but it is impossible to catch up while preserving quality and mental sanity.

I know about several of my friends, non-tech, being directly impacted by AI.

In finance, lots of analysis work is now offset to LLMs, and the people leveraging the tools obviously still have the issue that they need to review everything the AI has analyzed, their formulas, etc. And lots of nuance and things that a human would caught are lost. But in the meantime the expectation is that your analysis output is 5 times what it was before.

My girlfriend works in corporate law for an insurance company. The company is FOMOing hard for LLMs and pushing everybody to write gemini "gems" and notebooklm presets to do lots of the work.

But it absolutely does not scale: you can't keep up with those demands, while also providing the same quality coming from thoroughly analyzing new regulations and such.

Another friend that works in credit has now the company mandate that people update financial statements etc directly to LLMs and those tools come with a yes/no about whether they will finance it or not. Quality of debt has now plummeted, needless to say and the process is longer that it has ever been because re-reviewing the LLM analysis is more expensive than doing it on your own.

My own bank has had a terrific customer care that has been recently replaced by an LLM, tragedy. It is absolutely unhelpful beyond the 80% pareto principle where customer care had already pre-canned answers anyway. But for the 20% of cases that are major issues/bugs, the AI is simply not helpful.

My bank genuinely had a bug with invoice processing and there was no way to tell them nor to resolve my issue (which required somebody to manually void the previous invoice and restart the process that got bugged).

I think it's a tragedy.

alex_x•15m ago
Humans are highly dependent on the environment; you can blame people for eating too much of highly processed food and lots of sugar, but that's what happens if all you see around is highly processed food and sugar
fleebee•14m ago
Except for the fully autonomous OpenClaws invading social spaces. There's no human in the loop. That's pure, unfettered AI slop, at a scale no human could keep up with.
tfrancisl•33m ago
> I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer.

Something similar to this happened in a "public" chat space at my company, and, despite the fact that we are leaning into LLMs and agentic workflows quite a bit, the responses were generally "I aint reading all that" and "hey, dude, thats kinda unprofessional."

We should be shaming people who attempt to outsource all of their thinking to chatbots or agents. I think it would be effective.

tidewinner•32m ago
At my company this behaviour is celebrated
hn111•31m ago
You can send them this: https://noslopgrenade.com
tfrancisl•15m ago
I agree with the messaging generally, but unfortunately to fight implicitly unprofessional behavior with a terse response like this would look explicitly unprofessional!
Cthulhu_•25m ago
If it wasn't essential, I'd tell them to talk to me like a human or else I'd just quit the conversation entirely. Boundaries and stuff.
epolanski•25m ago
I understand that example, on the other hand, RTFM is as old as history and it can often be replaced by googling or asking LLMs.

Not saying that's the very specific case, but I regularly encounter in my daily life at work people delegating the kind of information seeking that can be done

tfrancisl•16m ago
No, this was in response to some questions about different approaches enterprises take to automated code quality review and complying with some arbitrary security standard out there. And this was a principal secops guy who thought the appropriate thing to do was to ask Copilot.

Being known as an RTFM type of person, I usually appreciate when a super nonspecific question is met with a link to the docs.

coldtea•14m ago
>And this was a principal secops guy who thought the appropriate thing to do was to ask Copilot.

Firing them on the spot and telling them: "Thanks for opening our eyes to the fact that asking you is just asking Copilot with a middleman" will send the right message to the rest...

lizknope•33m ago
I'm tired of talking to people telling them to stop talking to an AI

AI generated slop has exploded across reddit. Last year I would see about 1 obvious AI generated post and report it. Today I've already reported 5 posts and it is 7am here.

The posts are some technical topic but there isn't even really a question in the post and then it ends with "thoughts about this?" and people try to clarify with the OP what the question is.

I reply to them to stop wasting their time because it is a bot. Sometimes there are 20 comments and nothing from the OP bot. Sometimes the OP bot says "Interesting, thanks" but never any real followup question.

We had this discussion 3 weeks ago "AI Slop is Killing Online Communities"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48053203

chadgpt3•16m ago
Reddit has fallen. Stop wasting your time there.

Reddit makes money from spam accounts. Even before LLMs, they'd ban you for reporting the wrong spambots, those being the ones that pay Reddit for priority access.

The replies to the LLM post are probably LLMs themselves.

pelagicAustral•32m ago
I'm not tired to talking to AI because I specifically instructed my agents to channel Alec Baldwin in Glengary Glen Ross, so i constantly reminded that coffee is for closers only.
chaosprint•32m ago
Using AI to learn objective things is acceptable. However, as long as it's combined with your own experience, because AI can't possibly understand your entire world, any subjective answers will be disgusting, disastrous, obsequious, and boring.
datakan•31m ago
I feel the same as the article author. Worse, every Diary/Journaling app is now including AI, so the place where original thoughts are supposed to be written for posterity is now also AI generated slop. I've canceled subscriptions because of it.
thunfischtoast•30m ago
AI makes it apparent that the only value some people bring to the table is that they have access to information that you do not. If now they fold that one advantage by just delegating everything to AI (which is in the same position as you informationwise), they will remove themselves from the worker pool soon.
onlyrealcuzzo•15m ago
Try prompting Claude to fix an arbitrary code base better than someone who knows it, when you're a random non-technical person.

Try prompting Claude for legal advice and getting as good of results as Lawyer would if you're a layperson.

Try prompting Claude for medical advice if you're not a doctor...

I would hope these people are AT A MINIMUM screening the responses they get before passing them off. There's value in that if they are, as if they really are experts they can filter out bs and reprompt better than you likely could if you're not an expert - and in rare cases, who knows, maybe they could actually do it themselves.

AI is just going to speed run bringing out the best and worst in coworkers.

There have always been people that did the absolute bare minimum to not get fired.

AI will just make it more obvious.

And those people will be at the front to be let go when AI inevitably kills white collar jobs as it creates other jobs. They just might not be able to get one of those new ones because they rotted what little brain cells they had to begin with.

embedding-shape•9m ago
> I would hope these people are AT A MINIMUM screening the responses they get before passing them off

The co-founder of Anthropic isn't even doing this when preparing statements to say after the Pope has spoken about AI, I think you're expecting a bit too much here.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely think that's a must too, but I also think people should test software extensively before deploying/releasing it, seemingly nowadays I'm in the minority about these sort of things.

Invictus0•29m ago
Get a grip! If you want to talk to a human then pickup the phone or go meet them in person
wateralien•29m ago
One of the most amazing things happened during the day long power cut in 2025 in Spain and Portugal... eventually the cell towers went down and everyone just went to the parks and socialised. Connected with friends, strangers. Everyone was so in the moment because there was nowhere else to be, nothing else to distract them. People would pick up their phone and realise there was nothing there for them and put it back down and continue chatting. People were present in a way I've never seen in these places before. It was pretty magical.
the_gipsy•17m ago
We need to go back
gib444•12m ago
In comparison to other parts of Europe, my impression (as a visitor to both but mostly Spain) so that they're way ahead in maintaining social interactions, community, neighbourly relations etc. Is that the case?
lofaszvanitt•5m ago
People can't even keep up discussions. Most of the population is totally dumbened down, like on the levels of barely functioning monkeys.
kh_hk•28m ago
In Neal Stephenson's fall or dodge in hell there's a timeline where the internet is so flooded by fake AI generated news that characters have their own agent both filtering info and maintaining their fake social presence.

The book in particular is of a debatable quality but I keep going back to those introductory chapters as prophetic the more we go into this.

torben-friis•26m ago
>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer.

This is the killer issue.

It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

rob74•24m ago
Well, it's subtly different than a kid calling mum - kids generally do that because they're insecure, an adult using ChatGPT to answer simply can't be bothered to turn on their brain...
Dumblydorr•19m ago
Sounds pretty unsubtle to me. It’s possible they’re insecure as adults as well? Or they want to save time or brain power for other work and don’t see the inherent rudeness in it?
choudharism•17m ago
I think you might be underestimating the level of insecurity in the average adult ("I only used AI to refine my own thoughts...", "I only used AI to correct my typos...").
blueflow•11m ago
You had an good, psychologically plausible explanation for some individuals to over-rely on AI and... dismissed it and called them stupid. Adults are not special, they are mostly kids that got older.
cryo32•16m ago
Someone does that to me and they go on the spreadsheet and I work around them every time in future. It's not worth interacting with those people.
gib444•14m ago
When your spreadsheet gets full, will you change jobs or change tactic?
cryo32•6m ago
I'll have a peaceful life until it gets to my yearly management review of my teams.
lionkor•6m ago
I get that this is supposed to be unproductive snark, but the real answer is probably to then sort the spreadsheet and assign a tier system of how annoying and useless each person in it is.
jjgreen•4m ago
Switch to a DB
kgwxd•4m ago
I think they own the company at that point.
hsbauauvhabzb•12m ago
Option B would involve being incredibly verbose and burying prompt injections in your question.
compass_copium•7m ago
The sabot of the AI era. Love it.
hnthrow0287345•4m ago
That's probably the goal

You get nothing being the go-to person vs. the person that just does the job

casey2•12m ago
It's like asking someone to deadlift a dresser and move it to another room, even though they have a dolly right next to them. Should they be able to? It depends. Should you expect them to? No, that's just odd.
embedding-shape•11m ago
No, it's like asking someone "Would you like to have a coffee?" and they responds by pointing at a Starbucks and saying "Sure, go over there, they have coffee you can buy".
compass_copium•6m ago
It's more like asking someone to use a toilet when they have a perfectly good set of pants they're wearing, already on them. Thinking is what makes you human, don't give it up so easily.
agumonkey•10m ago
Not trying to defend ai but I observed another mode: what used to be bored dev chats where people avoided topics or started feuds, now it's "well Claude suggests...". It's not great but it's a short form of improvement somehow. (Sure I'd prefer passionate convos steering toward innovation, but that's been a rare sight in my career)
lionkor•7m ago
No it isn't an improvement. If I wanted the output of an LLM instead of a thinking, smart, real human, I would have simply asked an LLM. Nearly nobody who asks humans questions WANTS to get an LLM answer, that's simply not why people ask other people.
sschueller•6m ago
True but how many times have people sent someone "let me google that for you".

Some people are inherently lazy and unload their laziness to someone else to do the thinking for them.

I still think sending someone an AI answer is terrible but then again, if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first.

maciejzj•24m ago
I've recently been connecting some machines to a new switch and my colleague has been monitoring web logs at the same time using Claude. He send me a Claude-generated observation that the machines that I was able to put my hands on simultaneously must be in different buildings due to high pings. Surreal experience.
zhiQ•18m ago
- you use AI-generated argument in a discussion. - your co-worker counters with AI-generated argument. - you re-counter with AI-generated rebuttal. - the co-worker counter the re-counter with another AI-generated… etc.

Turtles all the way down.

titaniumrain•15m ago
too much whining with non-AI believers
bloqs•13m ago
When you work in STEM fields you tend to interact with people with higher non verbal reasoning skills (often called Performance IQ) who generally have lower verbal IQs (not always). These people are definitively less articulate and cannot see the linguistic inconsistencies and inhuman demeanor of LLM outputs. Much in the same way that non creative people cannot tell why some AI art is unappealing, they can't easily comprehend the value of the human dimension of art. Similarly, people with poor non-verbal/performance reasoning skills cannot understand the difference between AI produced code and human produced code.
agumonkey•7m ago
These people are probably more attuned to conceptual abstract specifications.
weatherlite•13m ago
What's so great about talking to real people?
coldtea•8m ago
Just it being the only thing that matters for humanity
patates•9m ago
> But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer.

Those people obviously don't want to talk to you or not interested in the topic you're talking about or both.

Find people who want to talk to you, and avoid spaces where this is less likely to happen.

Funny thing is, when this happened to me, I asked AI to give me ideas (because I just couldn't find people to talk to) and the best idea it had was finding smaller/niche forums and real-world gatherings around me.

At least nowadays, when you see the person talking in real world, it's fairly easy to tell human from android.

pjmlp•9m ago
Me too, which is why I do my best to keep KPIs, and do everything else as always.
pprotas•9m ago
A year ago (or so) I had a colleague whose messages were all obviously AI-generated. I told them that it felt weird that they were sending me AI answers in Slack and code reviews, and they stopped doing it.

Not an interesting story, just wanted to share that the other party might not be aware of how this comes across on the people that have to read their AI messages.

jwxz•4m ago
In the video game Cyberpunk 2077, the "Net" is overrun by rouge AI and eventually humanity has to quarantine itself from them, ironically, using another AI.

I wonder if a similar fate awaits us?

everlier•4m ago
The company I work at tries to solve it right now, not promoting, just want to share.

Slop is no fun to deal with, so we have a thesis that slop should be left for agents to read and human-to-human communication should happen outside of passing empty fluffy docs to one another. To realise that, we have a workspace with group chats where multiple agents and humans can work together and agents can engage with humans for additional information when needed. The challenge is, of course, to find the right level of autonomy for the agents and let the agent learn and follow user's workflows well enough to be useful.

ps•3m ago
Two months ago I responded to my nontechnical business partners asking me what do I expect from AI in the future couple of months or years - people will cherish and value in person talk and meeting other people much more and even this will hold true for minor share of human population and only until we augment human body to hide its permanent connection to AI.
cortic•3m ago
I was actually thinking of how tired i was talking to real people and how refreshing AI was to talk something through with.

Most conversations with people, that center around something complicated or emotional are difficult on many levels. I have to deal with humans limited amount of patience and ego eccentric responses that can hide the actual response and require me to untie the persons emotional state diplomatically before i can get to the point.

Just having an entity i can throw concepts at with limitless patience and almost no ego, its really refreshing. The only issue I'm frustrated with is the inevitable Enshittification of these LLMs leading to advertising push or "a response was not generated" popping up whenever something too political or controversial is generated.

I don't consider the massive inflow of IA content in social media as a LLM problem as this is just the same shills that were always on these platforms using AI to increase the quality and quantity of their output, its problems we should have dealt with before AI.