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Flat Datacenter Networks at Scale at Amazon

https://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2026/06/flat-datacenter-networks-at-scale/
43•tanelpoder•17h ago

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epistasis•41m ago
Oh man, James Hamilton blog posts, I love these things! (Edit: for more concrete details, the Arxiv paper linked from the blog post is here https://arxiv.org/pdf/2604.15261 and the amazon.science link has some higher level view of the details https://www.amazon.science/blog/how-flat-is-replacing-fat-in... )

> The results were striking: compared to traditional fat-tree networks, RNG (Resilient Network Graphs) uses 69% fewer routers, delivers 33% higher throughput, cuts network power by 40%, and lowers operating costs by 27. In early 2026, RNG became the default design for most newly built Amazon data centers globally.

> For cabling, they developed the ShuffleBox—a passive optical device whose internal wiring combined with randomized ShuffleBox-to-ShuffleBox cabling yields “quasi-random” graphs that behave like truly random graphs.

This is pretty incredible, random layouts of networks that have on-average better properties...

I'm really curious about the long tail of performance though. What is the worst case scenario here? And are there some better case scenarios? Uniformity in Clos networks is pretty great, but many loads don't need uniformity, and if these RNG-based networks have non-uniformity, perhaps that has operational characteristics that can be helpful or harmful.

kev009•26m ago
It's not that dissimilar to how the Internet works. Although you have some steering like IX peering switches, and social/economic factors, but in whole it is fairly random.
socketcluster•16m ago
Interesting reading this because this is essentially the principle behind https://socketcluster.io/ scalability; the sharding of channels across available brokers is pseudo-random. It uses a hash function for determinism but the distribution appears to be random and that was also the best way I could find to distribute load evenly between available nodes.

Claude Fable 5

https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5
1350•Philpax•4h ago•1088 comments

Ultrafast machine learning on FPGAs via Kolmogorov-Arnold Networks

https://aarushgupta.io/posts/kan-fpga/
77•ag2718•1h ago•12 comments

Making Graphics Like it's 1993

https://staniks.github.io/articles/catlantean-3d-blog-1/
676•sklopec•10h ago•111 comments

Test-case reducers are underappreciated debugging tools

https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2026/test_case_reducers_are_underappreciated_debugging_tools.html
37•ltratt•9h ago•5 comments

A giant star may have destroyed itself in one of the rarest explosions

https://phys.org/news/2026-05-giant-star-destroyed-universe-rarest.html
120•wglb•1d ago•15 comments

Microsoft's open source tools were hacked to steal passwords of AI developers

https://techcrunch.com/2026/06/08/microsofts-open-source-tools-were-hacked-to-steal-passwords-of-...
504•raffael_de•13h ago•172 comments

Flat Datacenter Networks at Scale at Amazon

https://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2026/06/flat-datacenter-networks-at-scale/
43•tanelpoder•17h ago•3 comments

CEOs Who Think AI Replaces Their Employees Are Just Bad CEOs

https://www.techdirt.com/2026/06/09/ceos-who-think-ai-replaces-their-employees-are-just-bad-ceos/
159•speckx•2h ago•54 comments

The LD_DEBUG environment variable (2012)

https://bnikolic.co.uk/blog/linux-ld-debug.html
39•tanelpoder•3h ago•1 comments

Launch HN: Transload (YC P26) – Measuring freight items with CCTV

28•nils_spatial•4h ago•6 comments

Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied request for exemption

https://www.reuters.com/business/apple-failed-make-its-ai-tool-comply-eu-regulations-eu-commissio...
296•flanged•5h ago•493 comments

OpenCV 5 Is Here: The Biggest Leap in Years for Computer Vision

https://opencv.org/opencv-5/
632•ternaus•3d ago•113 comments

Ask HN: Are you still using a Vision Pro?

83•y1n0•2h ago•87 comments

Biff.core: system composition for Clojure web apps

https://biffweb.com/p/core/
90•jacobobryant•5h ago•17 comments

Let's Encrypt bans certificate usage in any US sanctioned territory [pdf]

https://letsencrypt.org/documents/LE-SA-v1.7-June-04-2026-diff.pdf
234•piskov•22h ago•179 comments

What it feels like to work with Mythos

https://www.oneusefulthing.org/p/what-it-feels-like-to-work-with-mythos
118•swolpers•4h ago•108 comments

FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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334•berlianta•5h ago•222 comments

Alpine Linux 3.24.0 Released

https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.24.0-released.html
4•fossdd•28m ago•0 comments

Is Grep All You Need? How Agent Harnesses Reshape Agentic Search

https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.15184
101•Anon84•7h ago•43 comments

Miz Framework Story

4•sajjadws•3d ago•9 comments

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107•bwestergard•3h ago•156 comments

The iPhone's Last Stand?

https://stratechery.com/2026/the-iphones-last-stand/
149•swolpers•11h ago•188 comments

Show HN: Gravity – interactive solar-system simulator, from Newton to Einstein

https://qunabu.github.io/Gravity/
121•qunabu•9h ago•30 comments

Can LLMs Beat Classical Hyperparameter Optimization Algorithms?

https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.24647
83•galsapir•6h ago•12 comments

Emerge Career (YC S22) Is Hiring a Founding Growth Marketer

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1•gabesaruhashi•9h ago

Blaise v0.10.0: Native Back End, Threads and Incremental Compilation

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7•mariuz•1d ago•0 comments

Show HN: GentleOS – A pair of hobby OSes for vintage 32-bit and 16-bit PCs

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73•luke8086•2d ago•85 comments

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https://cost.dev/
41•akh•5d ago•23 comments

Unified Controllable and Faithful Text-to-CAD Generation with LLMs

https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.19773
55•PaulHoule•7h ago•17 comments

GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

https://naokishibuya.github.io/blog/2022-12-30-gpt-2-2019/
224•AbuAssar•2h ago•82 comments