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Anthropic Cracking Down on Video Game Rewrites

https://twitter.com/chasmmmmmmmmmmm/status/2116062991686721968
54•jacquesm•1h ago

Comments

andsoitis•1h ago
Assuming this is true (I believe it is unconfirmed), why limit to games?
toomuchtodo•1h ago
Legal risk from Microsoft and other game makers. Path to success will have to be self hosted open weights imho. Big Tech wants a monopoly on AI revenue, they do not want people cloning what they're gating with IP for enterprise value and cashflows.

I believe games is the easy target, but only the first, from a reverse engineering, decomp, and re implementation perspective. They will eventually come for anything that enables rapid, efficient, and effective trivial re implementation.

Remade: Everything can be remade. Discover independent software reimplementations. Request the software you want to see remade next. - https://remade.wiki/

Capital Wants a Monopoly - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50291135 - October 2026 (Context is DoorDash and Instacart, but the concept holds broadly)

Microsoft and Epic Games Suddenly Agree That AI Is Theft - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50271271 - October 2026

Microsoft and Epic Games DCMA AI-Gen Clones - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50263345 - October 2026

DeepSeek just open-sourced its inference engine - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50163277 - October 2026

Reverse engineer anything with agents, from app behavior down to native binaries - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50058850 - October 2026

(shades of the Internet Archive attempting to preserve access to culture with controlled lending, and being told no due to copyright law [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48789317]; not identical of course, but I see the issues somewhat intertwined as it relates to the tension of knowledge and compute freedom vs capital demand for monopolies and moats via copyright and intellectual property regimes)

saghm•16m ago
IP protection once again scales with your wallet, where the benefits disproportionately help those who already have the most resources and hinders those with the least.
close04•26m ago
They didn't start with games. At least they had plenty of arbitrary limits for what it wouldn't do usually citing safety. What they do now is introducing a new arbitrary reason - this time because it hurts other deep pocketed buddies, large companies in the gaming industry. You can bet your tokens this isn't where the list of arbitrary reasons ends.
vunderba•24m ago
I'm not sure why it's being limited to just games (it might just be the announcement), but I'm sure vibe-coded stuff like this that people keep happily plastering over every possible social media outlet presumably isn't helping.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50259643

Tiberium•14m ago
That's not even a recreation, it's just the leaked sources of the game recompiled to WASM, so I don't think their prompt would apply to this case.

I tried locally and Opus was willing to go ahead to rewrite a decompiled game into Rust. Wording changes its decisions a lot, when I say "rewrite it in Rust" it proceeds, when I say "recreate it in Rust" it refuses, probably because the prompt uses "recreation"

vunderba•10m ago
Interesting - I guess it's hard to say if it would be caught by anthropic censors upstream since we aren't really privy to how broad this new "net" is going to be.
chpatrick•11m ago
Maybe they got a friendly letter from the games industry.
faryoppo•49m ago
yeah your right.we better act now
throwaway27448•41m ago
Hard to imagine this is actually a concern for game makers. Decompilation aside, AI can only produce shallow visual mimicry. If you were to actually try to enjoy these games you'd be miserable nearly instantly.

Rookie move to fight this legally! What replaces it actually will be engaging and competitive. Palworld is just the beginning....

mgdev•34m ago
Can you imagine a devtools company deciding, "Actually, no, we're going to police what kind of programs you can compile" ?

They need to decide of AI is a technology or an ideology. We cannot afford to blend the two, or we're going to end up as some kind of perverted global theocracy.

Hamuko•30m ago
Claude is a commercial service. And much like other services (AWS, Cloudflare, GitHub, etc.), they might boot you off if they feel fire under their feet.
m4rtink•11m ago
Commercial service trying to sell you the result of scrapping all the data from the Internet without permission of the authors.
Hamuko•9m ago
Yeah. My suggestion would be to not give them a dollar. Zero-revenue companies usually don't go far. Better yet, don't even have an account. Having zero MAU is also a pretty terrible for a business.
filipn•23m ago
You can write the code yourself you know?
InsideOutSanta•14m ago
"The car I bought doesn't want to drive me to the hospital!"

"You can walk yourself you know?"

Geof25•33m ago
So people will be running reverse engineering through openrouter and similar or local inference while Anthropic is severely crippling cyber security usefulness of their products. Feels like own goal.
drunner•32m ago
Anthropic (and others) mass harvested source code from around the internet while ignoring licenses to build their product. That's of course allowed (by them).

Using the trained model to create certain types of software that they already harvested, not allowed?

What's the difference between having the model make a game and writing any other software? It's like trying to say you can only use our model to write new stories but not fanfiction when they trained the model on the original works which would allow the fanfiction to be produced in the first place.

WarmWash•21m ago
>That's of course allowed (by them).

And the courts that ruled fair use.

metadat•9m ago
Recreating a game is also fair use.
giwook•3m ago
Not when it eats into corporate profits!!!1o1o1eon

/s

giwook•21m ago
The difference is now they have a trillion dollar company they need to protect so they must pull the ladder up behind them.
koskokos•31m ago
I see where they are coming from but I was really hoping for a surge of labour of love open source abandonware recreations.
DavCreator•30m ago
https://xxcancel.com/chasmmmmmmmmmmm/status/2116062991686721...
aizk•26m ago
What a wonderful day for open source models.
ThatMedicIsASpy•26m ago
Hide random comments in my code so usAI says it won't touch it?
m4rtink•25m ago
So we are going from running your stuff from cloud that randomly closes accounts or charges ridiculous costs to pinpointing arbitrary AI use cases and banning them on a whim. I guess that's progress !?

Indeed, cloud == other peoples computers, with all what it entails.

drivebyhooting•22m ago
Mark my words: AI will only be allowed to destroy the software engineering profession, but somehow protectionism will be enforced for everything else in the name of “safety” and “fairness”.
123l-aa•20m ago
No, paid AI mathematicians are currently lining up to destroy math, too.
lifty•18m ago
better start the dev guild or union so we can get some negotiation power in the political struggle.
umvi•22m ago
Easy to see the slippery slope from "safety" to "DRM". Abliterated/open models will become increasingly important for AI freedom if they aren't made illegal first...
bethekidyouwant•14m ago
How do you make it illegal to run software on a computer on the Internet?
giwook•22m ago
Open models become more and more appealing by the day.
123l-aa•21m ago
They steal from everyone else, but closed source companies are protected.

The new copyright applies if you are worth more than $1 billion. Everything else is public domain!

It is unimaginable that people on this very site use the products of a company that is worse than Oracle and Microsoft combined.

EDIT: Why the downvotes, Anthropic people? I didn't say that Amodei's wife was public domain.

philipkglass•17m ago
The most important secret of the atomic bomb was that it could be built at all. That's the same way I feel about Anthropic's products (increasingly, tech demos rather than products, if you go off the happy path.) They've demonstrated what is possible. Now I'm hoping for a fistful of rivals to build functional equivalents.

I'm still an Anthropic customer but in the long run I'm going to be using services that align with my interests. I want a provider that won't nerf or refuse requests around software security, building LLM training pipelines, the natural sciences, and reverse engineering. Anthropic is useful as a transitional bootloader for developing and demonstrating LLM technology broadly but each new safety "enhancement" makes it look more dispensable.

pelagicAustral•16m ago
NOOOOO my Battlefield 2 in JS!!! NOOO
bushido•16m ago
They can't help themselves but play the Don't be evil[0] in fast-forward.

They pretty much write the case for why open weights and open source models need to win. The amount of policing that Claude does is pretty problematic.

I'd written about this recently, but it won't even sign in during some browser tests on my local system for authentication which goes to my local system because it's built into its programming now. I literally can't use it on some long horizon work.

The reason I mentioned that here is it deems that as problematic behavior, and nothing I can give it will change its mind. I feel like with video game development, it is going to do something of the same.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil

hmokiguess•15m ago
How can something that provably cannot create and only recycle follow such instructions.

The training data contains such originals, if you don't want it recycling those then purge the commercial data you stole and provide original data yourself.

lrvick•14m ago
I wonder how long before people figure out that you can run alliterated models locally on consumer hardware capable of doing all this without help from Sam or Dario.
rcr-anti•13m ago
Some context to this, there's been a bunch of discussion in indie game development spaces about how it might be risky to release demos, or any information really, since a bunch of (probably? can't necessarily assume now.) people seem to immediately try to clone it with agents. It's to the extent I've seen genuine confusion about which game is the original in Twitch streams/chats. There have been a bunch of takes one way or another on it, including 'if your game is clone-able from a demo your idea isn't unique or complex enough'.

Ars's bit on it recently: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2026/10/ai-game-clones-are-ma...

everdrive•12m ago
Just let the LLM do your thinking for you, but but don't worry if some thoughts are not allowed.
MyHonestOpinon•10m ago
What is the reason for disallowing video game rewrites ? Officially, unofficially.
pton_xd•6m ago
"and games from the user’s own designs and assets."

How would Claude know if the designs and assets are my own?

FeteCommuniste•11m ago
The current state of "Hacker" News, where suggesting someone actually write code is seen as like suggesting that the injured walk to the hospital.
hhh•11m ago
Your car isn't being directed to trample the IP rights of others.
xorcist•21m ago
It's netiher, at least not in a way relevant to the question here.

It's a privately owned service, and it's theirs to decide what they want to do with it. Continuing on your parable, if you paid someone to compile your software, of course they could say one day that they decided to not not compile weapons guidance software or whatever. It happens all the time. The Debian compile cluster will "police" that you can only compile free software, for example.

If you hire me to write software, I can politely decline without giving a reason. The same should Anthropic, should you hire their service to write your software.

If you want control over software, you or someone you trust must invest in running it. We cannot continue to outsource control to other organizations and then act surprised when they exercise said control.

nightski•17m ago
I don't think anyone was arguing the legality of it. At the end of the day though this is why open models will win.
Humorist2290•17m ago
It's privately owned and indeed they can set the terms.

But if you're hired to write software, and you accept the job, and you accept payment, and then you decline -- well, it would be polite to offer a refund. Anthropic is, as far as I know, not up front about what is/isn't permitted to be generated, and has a history of refusing justifiable refunds.

swatcoder•16m ago
At this stage, they certainly have the right to refuse whatever tasks they'd like, but even rightful actions come with consequences.

The more they exercise that right, and the more reactively so, the more they erode the ability for customers to rely on their product staying available to them in the long term. If I need to worry that Anthropic might shut down some critical element my workflow on any given week, then I'm incentivized to either keep my workflows very portable and light-footed (goodbye moat) or take my business to a vendor I can better rely on (goodbye customer).

tiahura•10m ago
MS could add no mean programs to VC TOS.
delichon•21m ago
I read a social media post yesterday that said, paraphrasing, Amazon blocked my agent from making a purchase, so I had it buy from somewhere else for a lower price. That's about the same degree of loyalty I have for Anthropic.
weezing•18m ago
Other corpos are mad that private users with access to AI fuck them over
done_lurking•18m ago
It's the natural consequence of a few companies having all of the compute resources. They can do whatever they want since the alternative for users is to pay out the nose for hardware to run a model that isn't SOTA.
bethekidyouwant•15m ago
Didn’t read the diamond age eh?

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