Ambitious. Very hard to achieve.
But if we use go, github and discord for building the "anti big tech" stack - then we have failed from the start.
modelorona•1h ago
Why go?
kennywinker•51m ago
Go is a programming language. It’s not exactly pushing google’s ad agenda.
Your criticism of using github and discord are somewhat valid, but asking people to re-invent the wheel while they re-invent the bicycle seems like arbitrarily making up rules so everyone fails. Is there some influence you expect to leak into their platform thru github or discord?
habbekrats•47m ago
go does push silly things. besides being overhyped, they block anonimizing tech when accessing package repos for example.
you dont want anything to do with google or anything they make or host. they will only do it to extract shit from you. they dont give nything dont be naive.
treyd•38m ago
> It’s not exactly pushing google’s ad agenda.
Maybe not their ad agenda, but certainly one of their agendas. Specifically, the agenda they have to get young, inexperienced developers prepared for specifically the software development practices they employ internally.
It was directly stated that "Go is not for clever developers" and that their target is recent graduates with limited experience. It punishes you for trying to think about what you're building and to design sophisticated software, relying more on brute force. It doesn't encourage you to reach higher.
threethirtytwo•26m ago
They are standing on the shoulders of giants. There's nothing wrong with the ideals and the motivation, but it begs the question: Could Mu exist without go? could go exist without google? Could Mu exist without google?
And all of that culminates with: Could the level of technology and the internet reach the state it is today without big tech? And if not, was the price we paid to get here worth it?
threethirtytwo•34m ago
There is more honesty in failing for the sake of ideals than in winning without them. It is a story that shaped many before and will shape many after, and mu may simply be one more instance of that enduring truth.
uka•1h ago
modelorona•1h ago
kennywinker•51m ago
Your criticism of using github and discord are somewhat valid, but asking people to re-invent the wheel while they re-invent the bicycle seems like arbitrarily making up rules so everyone fails. Is there some influence you expect to leak into their platform thru github or discord?
habbekrats•47m ago
you dont want anything to do with google or anything they make or host. they will only do it to extract shit from you. they dont give nything dont be naive.
treyd•38m ago
Maybe not their ad agenda, but certainly one of their agendas. Specifically, the agenda they have to get young, inexperienced developers prepared for specifically the software development practices they employ internally.
It was directly stated that "Go is not for clever developers" and that their target is recent graduates with limited experience. It punishes you for trying to think about what you're building and to design sophisticated software, relying more on brute force. It doesn't encourage you to reach higher.
threethirtytwo•26m ago
And all of that culminates with: Could the level of technology and the internet reach the state it is today without big tech? And if not, was the price we paid to get here worth it?