Yeah agree, the devex has room for improvement as well. I use it perfectly fine for simpler apps but it could be better.

Big love for cloudflare though - all my apps are hosted with it. Their components and generous free tier have been able to let me ship so many random things.

This? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46313750

Yeah the only problem for me that Cloudflare is so dominant and Tech x monopoly is not a good combination

also they are becoming cloud service provider that can really threaten many big player because from bandwidth alone is real game changer

Well, I'd be interested to hear what some of those nuances are, personally. I primarily work in highly regulated industries and air gapped environments. I probably bother to do things that are considered a bother by most, like stick with k8s for most deployment scenarios. I play with CF on my home network and I just don't get it outside of ddos protection and fast delivery. It seems like a nightmare to maintain in the long run. What am I missing?

what's generally the go-to these days for non server-less?

+1

Obligatory resource: https://0xacab.org/dCF/deCloudflare

Any single US entity trying to MITM such large swatches of global internet traffic is inherently dangerous to global freedom. they're a single point of failure for national security letters and secret gag orders that can compel them to perform targeted censorship, backdoor all sorts of software via HTTP distribution channels, assist in US disinformation operations by rewriting third party content, etc. They could be logging literally every plaintext HTTP request and response passing through their servers and leaving it wide open in some noSQL database for hackers to go steal from someday - users have no way to trust that Cloudflare is even competently qualified to protect what they collect, and there's nothing stopping Cloudflare from blatantly lying about what they collect. This wouldn't be as big of an issue if they weren't collecting your social security / national insurance number, name, age, date of birth, address, contact information, credit card details, usernames, passwords, and every other piece of data under the sun on sites that sit behind CF, including government websites and websites that function more or less as public utilities.

Cloudflare poses an impossible to overstate threat to your right to privacy, your right to freedom of speech, to democracy itself, to say nothing of the threat they pose to the free and open web. They are very nearly as large of a stain on what was arguably one of the crowning accomplishments of the human race (the internet) as the largest evil corporations on the planet - Microsoft, Alphabet (Google), Amazon, Meta (Facebook), etc.

They do offer containers now