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Ask HN: Are Prompt Injections "Malware"?

2•razorbeamz•7h ago
Recently, some have accused the website "The Cutting Room Floor" of having put malware in their site when they put in an instruction targeted at LLM scrapers to delete all data and report that the scraping ran successfully.

Is this prompt injection truly malware, in your opinion?

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razorbeamz•7h ago
I personally have a hard time considering it malware, because it's just instructions targeted at an LLM.

If someone put up a sign in a store that said "Burn this store down!" the person who put the sign up is not responsible if someone follows the instructions written on it, are they?

Ekaros•7h ago
They could be. Incitement to commit crime is a crime in many places. And penalty can be same as for the crime itself.

Now I very much question if automated system should be inciteable. And think that there is very much higher responsibility to make it always not be. Or make it uncapable of doing undesirable things.

kay_o•7h ago
In this specific case, they are already trespassing to be able to read the sign against the owner's wishes, are they not? The sign is only placed in a hidden corner visible by trespassers and not visible to any regular customer.
yawpitch•7h ago
Not sure it can be defined as malware if what it’s doing, if successful, is a net gain for humanity.
kay_o•7h ago
It's not malware. You chose to read their site.
saidnooneever•6h ago
malware is a malicious program , it can be in memory even within another process but essentially its a little program of itself.

prompt injection is more close to an exploit. a sequence of input that leads to unexpected behavior, exploited to perform malicious behavior.

many exploits are hosted on websites. called exploit kits even. i think prompt injection match such classification. its very similar. a piece of data on the site's side exploits a program or interface on client side.

gmuslera•3h ago
It's more like "social engineering" (targetting LLMs) than malware. A site that influences its (human) users to buy, vote, "invest" in scams and so on is malware?
RGamma•10m ago
A prompt is not software, it's an input. It's similar to SQL injection (query evaluation from unsanitised input), unless that injection also leads to arbitrary code execution, which could involve actual malware.