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Neovim have a ~$800k Bitcoin donation sitting untouched since 2023

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Neovim have a ~$800k Bitcoin donation sitting untouched since 2023

142•jakemanger•1h ago
I was looking at neovim's donation footer at the bottom of their site and saw a bitcoin donation address.

Thought I'd check how much in donations they've gotten. And I saw this massive 10 Bitcoin donation from back in 2023 (worth $800,000 now...)

From the activity history, neovim last sent bitcoin out of the address in 2019 so it's been max 7 years since they've definitely had access.

Does anyone from the neovim project know about this? Seems like a pretty significant amount of funding to have sitting there. Hope it can come to good use as I use neovim daily.

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1Evu6wPrzjsjrNPdCYbHy3HT6ry2EzXFyQ

Comments

JimBlackwood•1h ago
I imagine they might wait, to make it’s legally obtained Bitcoin.
a3w•46m ago
In which country would waiting help?
cyberpunk•41m ago
In Germany at least if you've held the coin(s) for 7 years before selling you don't need to pay tax on the profit.

Not sure how this applies to donations though, and of course this will almost certainly be changed in the future, .nl is leading the way in taxing _unrealised_ gains; we are sure to follow!

T0Bi•35m ago
It's one year, unless something changed recently.
la_fayette•26m ago
1 year
ksk23•19m ago
One year yes, and politics wants to change it..
yieldcrv•25m ago
Something that takes 5 seconds with bitcoin, faster than any other property type, is something you rationalize as taking 7 years

Why does HN collectively tolerate this level of understanding when it comes to crypto

pluc•1h ago
hodl
esskay•1h ago
I know you're joking but keeping bitcoin now really does feel like a poor investment given it's showing no signs of ever being revived.
accountrequired•58m ago
Bitcoin died *again*? hehe :P
esskay•50m ago
oh i dont think its 'dead' in the way people often describe. More...done. Like, the period of obscene growth is over and its now seemingly settled into a fairly dull investment with mediocre returns.
sph•35m ago
Well, that’s what people have said all the way to $70k+ price.
ForHackernews•19m ago
It's underperformed the S&P500 over the last 5 years, but you know what they say about past performance not predicting future returns. Maybe AI will unlock an untapped reservoir of ever-greater fools.
singiamtel•21m ago
seymon•1h ago
I hope they still have the private key.
jakemanger•52m ago
Really hope so too. Would be devastating
osigurdson•7m ago
It is an interesting fact about Bitcoin in general. There are 21M tokens in total AND some percentage are lost every year. Run this simulation long enough and there will be very few active Bitcoins remaining.
wyclif•1h ago
The project no longer uses that Bitcoin wallet for bounties.
ricardobeat•1h ago
What does that mean for that donation, and why is the wallet still listed on the website?
ramijames•31m ago
I think that a large part of the priced in "value" of Bitcoin is just lots and lots of Bitcoin that nobody can access anymore.
abirch•23m ago
Bitcoin's supposed to be "liquid" but I'm wondering what happens when there's a forced liquidity event.
altmanaltman•6m ago
I mean, it's the opposite of that; it's forced illiquidity when people lose access to their keys. There is no way to gain access to those coins and you cannot "force" liquidity on the bitcoin protocol.
colesantiago•1h ago
Bitcoin really isn't money.

They should send it to a dead wallet instead.

AIiscoming•1h ago
True and its also not compareable to gold.

But as long as others giving you real money for this garbage, it would be better to use it for a project like neovim :)

deniska•56m ago
To never have experienced a usefulness of cryptocurrency is a privileged position to be in.
colesantiago•50m ago
A dead wallet has better use for Bitcoin though.

We don't know where the Bitcoin has come from, so it needs to go extensive through anti money laundering checks.

Save the hassle of all of that taxes, accountancy and just send everything to a dead wallet.

done_lurking•28m ago
In what country does a bitcoin donation need to go through an "anti money laundering check"? Also, you could pay a lawyer 100k to handle the taxes and accounting and you would still have 700k left over.
gitowiec•59m ago
Exactly this! It was rendered money by some minds.
loopydosuette•57m ago
is this (w)hole lie still hodling up? crazy! is my botnet still not out of puberty?
Razengan•34m ago
This could become the premise of a near-cyberpunk heist movie..
zicohacks•30m ago
I checked their official donation channel is OpenCollective. I think the Bitcoin address is no longer being used and they just forgot to update the footer
matesz•6m ago
I’ve read so many news stories of people gone missing who had been know to have sole access to bitcoin wallets with large amount of bitcoins in them.

I wonder how people at large crypto exchanges handle that. Perhaps shamir share the access to the pkey password and store parts at secure places like a bank? And make official access protocol akin to dnssec, but simplified?

Isn't that a good thing? The main argument I've heard against using bitcoin as currency is that it's too volatile.
w4yai•51m ago
https://bitcoindeaths.com/
pluc•20m ago
what is dead may never die
suddenlybananas•20m ago
The log scale is awfully misleading, especially since money doesn't really work like that.
sjbzbeiks•11m ago
yeah I mean it just depends on time horizons, if you bought at 117k you are hurting now if you need the money ASAP.

Also, I gotta say I do not think Bitcoin is a bubble or whatever (IMO a real value there), but really this sort of site makes it seem like it is a bubble with the sort of "blind to history" boosterism.

Go read Reminiscences of a Stock Operator, or Market Wizards series, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, or any number of books about financial history and there are endless people saying 'it will never die and all the doubters are just wrong' before any big market crash.

imjonse•9m ago
to be fair the majority of the statements that site mocks are not about bitcoin being dead but being a ponzi scheme, evil, hard to use by normal people, silly, a risky investment etc.

All are criticism that can be evaluated on their own but it's irrelevant how much bitcoin grew since they were made.

zeofig•46m ago
Buy signal
jakemanger•16m ago
They've hodled from the original ~$200,000 donation to $1.2 million, now down to $800,000.

If they haven't accidentally done this, they've definitely got some balls

nullbio•54m ago
Unlike that paper money. That paper money was created by the Gods!
colesantiago•49m ago
It is even more useless than fiat.