frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

A simple heuristic for agents: human-led vs. human-in-the-loop vs. agent-led

1•fletchervmiles•1y ago
tl;dr - the more agency your agent has, the simpler your use case needs to be

Most if not all successful production use cases today are either human-led or human-in-the-loop. Agent-led is possible but requires simplistic use cases.

---

Human-led:

An obvious example is ChatGPT. One input, one output. The model might suggest a follow-up or use a tool but ultimately, you're the master in command.

---

Human-in-the-loop:

The best example of this is Cursor (and other coding tools). Coding tools can do 99% of the coding for you, use dozens of tools, and are incredibly capable. But ultimately the human still gives the requirements, hits "accept" or "reject' AND gives feedback on each interaction turn.

The last point is important as it's a live recalibration.

This can sometimes not be enough though. An example of this is the rollout of Sonnect 3.7 in Cursor. The feedback loop vs model agency mix was off. Too much agency, not sufficient recalibration from the human. So users switched!

---

Agent-led:

This is where the agent leads the task, end-to-end. The user is just a participant. This is difficult because there's less recalibration so your probability of something going wrong increases on each turn… It's cumulative.

P(all good) = pⁿ

p = agent works correctly n = number of turns / interactions

Ok… I'm going to use my product as an example, not to promote, I'm just very familiar with how it works.

It's a chat agent that runs short customer interviews. My customers can configure it based on what they want to learn (i.e. why a customer churned) and send it to their customers.

It's agent-led because

→ as soon as the respondent opens the link, they're guided from there → at each turn the agent (not the human) is deciding what to do next

That means deciding the right thing to do over 10 to 30 conversation turns (depending on config). I.e. correctly decide:

→ whether to expand the conversation vs dive deeper → reflect on current progress + context → traverse a bunch of objectives and ask questions that draw out insight (per current objective)

Let's apply the above formula. Example:

Let's say:

→ n = 20 (i.e. number of conversation turns) → p = .99 (i.e. how often the agent does the right thing - 99% of the time)

That equals P(all good) = 0.99²⁰ ≈ 0.82

So if I ran 100 such 20‑turn conversations, I'd expect roughly 82 to complete as per instructions and about 18 to stumble at least once.

Let's change p to 95%...

→ n = 20 → p = .95

P(all good) = 0.95²⁰ ≈ 0.358

I.e. if I ran 100 such 20‑turn conversations, I’d expect roughly 36 to finish without a hitch and about 64 to go off‑track at least once.

My p score is high. I had to strip out a bunch of tools and simplify but I got there. And for my use case, a failure is just a slightly irrelevant response so it's manageable.

---

Conclusion:

Getting an agent to do the correct thing 99% is not trivial.

You basically can't have a super complicated workflow. Yes, you can mitigate this by introducing other agents to check the work but this then introduces latency.

There's always a tradeoff!

Know which category you're building in and if you're going for agent-led, narrow your use-case as much as possible.

Meetup.com login appears to be exceeding its reCAPTCHA Enterprise quota

1•infl8ed•2m ago•0 comments

Why do politicians want AI to go faster?

https://www.irishtimes.com/technology/big-tech/2026/04/02/why-do-politicians-want-ai-to-go-faster/
1•1vuio0pswjnm7•7m ago•1 comments

Inside the Rage Machine [video]

https://www.bbc.com/video/docs/series/10294077
2•1vuio0pswjnm7•13m ago•1 comments

Show HN: A/B testing LLM silence with one system-prompt toggle

https://twitter.com/RayanPal_/status/2067816563995189631
8•rayanpal_•16m ago•0 comments

Sakha – An AI employee – onboarding tool for businesses

https://www.sakha.one
1•ankleshh•18m ago•0 comments

Profile(v2.1.4) physics-aware optimizer for vLLM (31→470 tok/s on A100)

https://github.com/jungledesh/profile
1•jungledesh•26m ago•0 comments

Staarfruit.com

https://staarfruit.com/
2•BishrKhan•27m ago•0 comments

Slay The Spire 2 – Major Update #2 – v0.107.1

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2868840/view/710026912607505280
1•j-scott•27m ago•1 comments

Fable Converted Pylint to Rust

https://pypi.org/project/prylint/
1•adamraudonis•28m ago•0 comments

AI Agents for Product Managers

https://ferrix.ai/blog/ai-agents-for-product-managers
1•B_Nemade•29m ago•0 comments

ElevenLabs Routes Image and Video to Outside Models, and Disclaims What They Do

https://ledger.somantix.ai/posts/eleven-labs-routes-image-and-video-to-outside-models-and-disclai...
2•bdroopy•30m ago•0 comments

Let's Encrypt has been down most of today

https://letsencrypt.status.io/#2026
55•widdakay•31m ago•12 comments

The Plan? To Resurrect Every Person Who Ever Lived

https://jonasanksher.substack.com/p/the-plan-to-resurrect-every-person
2•paulpauper•31m ago•0 comments

Universal Blue

https://universal-blue.org/
2•Tomte•33m ago•0 comments

How Poor People Manifested Billionaire Escape Resorts

https://katherineruss.substack.com/p/how-poor-people-manifested-bunker
1•Nakedemperor•35m ago•0 comments

Low-skilled attacker used Claude, Codex to breach 14 companies

https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2026/06/17/ai-agents-offensive-cyber-operations-claude-codex/
1•xbmcuser•37m ago•0 comments

UDP Gateway Packet Sources

https://www.proxylity.com/articles/now-available-packet-sources
1•mlhpdx•38m ago•0 comments

Product Hunt launches doubled while engagement halved

https://producthunt.homek8s.com/trends
1•Meetvelde•43m ago•1 comments

Flourish Labs: $500M to reinvent AI using neuroscience [pdf]

https://flourishlabs.ai/flourish_wired_article.pdf
2•spot•43m ago•1 comments

The Major Oak, Ancient Tree of Robin Hood Legend, Has Died

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/18/world/europe/major-oak-tree-dies.html
1•jaredwiener•43m ago•0 comments

Ex150-16 review: washout period and starting HCLF

https://www.exfatloss.com/p/ex150-16-review-washout-period-and
1•paulpauper•44m ago•0 comments

Every Privacy Vulnerability in Chrome and How to Catch It

https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/the-beast-behind-the-browser/
2•dotcoma•44m ago•0 comments

The Once and Future Fable #3: Fix This Code

https://thezvi.substack.com/p/the-once-and-future-fable-3-fix-this
1•paulpauper•44m ago•0 comments

Write your novel on your own machine. Pay no subscription

https://github.com/giapnguyen74/xnovelist
1•giapnguyen74•45m ago•0 comments

Show HN: FLIP TABLE 2026

https://fliptable.nyc/
1•wibbily•48m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Kill 80% of meetings by sending short clips back-and-forth

https://www.flowylabs.ai/llink
1•talksik•49m ago•0 comments

The Flat Curve Society

https://steve-yegge.medium.com/the-flat-curve-society-36c8b01eb33b
2•andsoitis•58m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Coding Tools MCP – Give any LLM agent the ability to code

https://github.com/xyTom/coding-tools-mcp
1•xytom•58m ago•0 comments

Ice Water Drowning Survival After 147-Minute Submersion and Hypothermic Arrest

https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jaccas.2025.104885
31•js2•58m ago•4 comments

Adding face tracking to my Pico 4

https://www.kitsu.red/blog/2025-08-06-face-tracking-for-pico-4
2•kitsune_cw•59m ago•0 comments