You are saying you find google search useful or you mean you mean the gemini is a distraction from a use case like measuring google results?
rkagerer•9mo ago
I find Google search useful. I find the AI generated snippets they inject into the top of the page a distraction. Roughly 9/10 times the information is generic, unhelpful, or plain wrong.
Gee101•9mo ago
Interesting I've found it pretty helpful for my searches. Maybe I search for more simple things :-)
satanfirst•9mo ago
I stopped finding their search competitive around 2015 but kept checking with gradually less frequency, so I can't really comment on whether anything new has added or hurt their results.
Some of their semantic web based info results seemed good and would have benefited by more complex algorithms to figure out when to show it.. But I kind of got the sense that they went into the Amazon territory where no one was authorized to sort anything out any more to get out of some kind of local optimums.
rkagerer•9mo ago
Are you using something better? (Are you a Kagi customer?)
satanfirst•9mo ago
I originally moved to duckduckgo to use their !g/!b/!.. for quick search comparisons when I was very much a power user of search, but these days ddg's first results or results after adding a qualifying word are usually adequate for my usage and my power search skills are in decline.
yieldcrv•9mo ago
I thought the headline was referring to lawyers using Gemini for antitrust case help
istillwritecode•9mo ago
Opting people into their sludge generates high engagement numbers. Or is it enragement?
bequanna•9mo ago
Not too surprising. The Gemini API free tier is quite generous:
They train on your data. Even when you use the api. You have to both have a GCP account, be using the right model name and the api. “Preview” no “experimental”. This is so convoluted and hidden that there’s an argument to be made that that’s by design.
Koshcheiushko•9mo ago
Every org is probably training on users data.
But for now, I'd say their latest model is quite good and they are offering it for free.
So I can digest it.
fragmede•9mo ago
both OpenAI and Anthropic promise they don't train on user data when opted out and submitted cuts the API. You don't have to believe them, but that's their claim, anyway.
not_math•9mo ago
rkagerer•9mo ago
I've found it at least 10X more distracting than useful.
EDIT: There are some browser extensions, or simply change your search URL to include udm=14 as a query parameter: https://www.google.com/search?udm=14&q=%s
satanfirst•9mo ago
rkagerer•9mo ago
Gee101•9mo ago
satanfirst•9mo ago
Some of their semantic web based info results seemed good and would have benefited by more complex algorithms to figure out when to show it.. But I kind of got the sense that they went into the Amazon territory where no one was authorized to sort anything out any more to get out of some kind of local optimums.
rkagerer•9mo ago
satanfirst•9mo ago