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'We had to get out of the way': The backlash over delivery robots

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0rygp005wjo
1•higginsniggins•7s ago•0 comments

Project Fetch: Phase Two

https://www.anthropic.com/research/project-fetch-phase-two
2•stopachka•12m ago•0 comments

Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

https://neilzone.co.uk/2026/06/pondering-routing-more-of-my-traffic-via-nodes-outside-the-uk-beca...
1•ColinWright•12m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Agentic coding workflows built on Git worktrees and task evidence

https://github.com/alex-reysa/glueRun-go
3•alexreysa•14m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Money Simulator

https://simulator.money/play
1•pattle•23m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Codeflowmap – map a codebase's read/write/auth data flows

https://github.com/man-consult/code-mapper
1•brian-m•23m ago•0 comments

Beyond the $7.4B Headline: DeepSeek's Series A signals Chinese AI alliance shift

https://asiaai.fyi/east-asias-ai-capital-surge-homegrown-models-challenge-west-amid-mineral-tensi...
1•dweisinger•25m ago•0 comments

LiveKit Solves Turn Detection

https://livekit.com/blog/solving-end-of-turn-detection
3•piyussh•25m ago•0 comments

Trump and Netanyahu Have Stepped in It Now

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/18/opinion/israel-america-iran-trump-vance.html
4•duxup•32m ago•1 comments

Typewriter Tinnitus/Morse Code Tinnitus

https://hearinglosshelp.com/blog/typewriter-tinnitus-morse-code-tinnitus/
2•austinallegro•38m ago•0 comments

Show HN: FERNme – agent memory that updates with ~zero LLM calls

https://github.com/mirkofr/FERNme
3•mirkofr•38m ago•0 comments

Giant Banana Pulled Over: Driver Says Cops Have Stopped Him 100s of Times

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2026/06/18/giant-banana-pulled-over-in-montana-driver-says-cops-have...
2•speckx•39m ago•1 comments

Show HN: HN Game Stories – mini-documentary of games that hit the front page

https://video.intellios.ai
2•coolwulf•41m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Submarius – Global water clarity for divers

https://submarius.com
4•celloer•43m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Starchart and Repo Header Generator

https://shieldcn.dev
4•justinlevine•43m ago•4 comments

Ask HN: What are some good benchmarks for different agent harnesses?

2•Bnjoroge•46m ago•0 comments

A Leaked GitHub Token Exposed the Exact Ozempic Formula

https://www.pentesty.co/blog/novo-nordisk-ozempic-fulcrumsec-breach-2026
5•johnzoro107•48m ago•1 comments

Ask HN: After you ship a feature, what happens to what you learned?

3•gaggle_dk•50m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Vitrus – the company brain that tells you what it doesn't know

https://github.com/ahmetvural79/Vitrus
2•ahvural•50m ago•0 comments

Hackingpal

https://github.com/hackingpal/hackingpal
2•jadamsl•54m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What are your parameter count estimates for Opus 4.8 and GPT-5.5?

2•ahriad•56m ago•0 comments

Query with Curl

https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2026/06/21/query-with-curl/
3•Sami_Lehtinen•56m ago•0 comments

Extracted Value

https://extractedvalue.com/
2•turtleyacht•1h ago•0 comments

Multi Pong – multiplayer pong game

https://multi-pong.projects.lasz.uk/
2•dr_kretyn•1h ago•0 comments

New V4 encryption format that supports hardware-bound encryption using Yubikeys

https://www.vaultsort.com/
4•VaultSort•1h ago•0 comments

Epoll vs. Io_uring in Linux

https://sibexi.co/posts/epoll-vs-io_uring/
25•Sibexico•1h ago•3 comments

The Tiny Sailing Game That Feels Surprisingly Real [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30n_fdzgjJA
3•coolwulf•1h ago•0 comments

Russia's Putin is spending $26B to live forever

https://startupfortune.com/russias-putin-is-spending-26-billion-to-live-forever/
5•insanetech•1h ago•0 comments

First Pure-Go Cubrid Driver: Gocubrid

https://hexacluster.ai/blog/announcing-first-pure-go-cubrid-driver-gocubrid
2•avivallssa•1h ago•1 comments

South Korea Could Build Nuclear Submarines, but It Shouldn't

https://warontherocks.com/south-korea-could-build-nuclear-submarines-but-it-shouldnt/
2•bear_with_me•1h ago•1 comments
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The Business Case for Vanilla JavaScript

https://lewiscampbell.tech/blog/250430.html
6•LAC-Tech•1y ago

Comments

copypaper•1y ago
I would personally never touch a frontend not written with a framework. Sounds like a terrible developer experience--especially with a team. But from reading your article, it sounds like your issue is with React itself. I would recommend you try Svelte, it sounds like what you're looking for. It's as close to vanilla js as you can get with all the benefits of a framework.
LAC-Tech•1y ago
What benefits of a framework?

I think that's why I wrote this - I almost completely fail to see them.

proc0•1y ago
I think React caved in to wider adoption pressure to introduce abstractions that are intuitive on the surface level but are costly in terms of large scale complexity.

> It's "declarative" right up until you're debugging stateful hooks, or resorting to useRef, or trying to reason about when a "component" re-renders

Maybe they should have modularized the core library more and have these things be separate, because the core idea of a uniflow pattern with reactivity is good.

I think what happened, at least in frontend, is that the industry pushed away from having engineers do any design or architecting on the frontend. All of these high level patterns have been "outsourced" to frameworks, and the result usually is something that has trouble scaling and adjusting to whatever domain it's in.

LAC-Tech•1y ago
Maybe they should have modularized the core library more and have these things be separate, because the core idea of a uniflow pattern with reactivity is good.

That's what SolidJS does. IE the signal implementation is completely stand alone. I feel like it's better at doing what react purports to do then react is.

* think what happened, at least in frontend, is that the industry pushed away from having engineers do any design or architecting on the frontend. All of these high level patterns have been "outsourced" to frameworks*

I don't think react patterns are particularly high level, or do they save you from architecture. Whether it's vanilla JS or react, you still have to design.

proc0•1y ago
Oh I haven't looked at Solidjs yet, interesting will take a look. And yeah you may still need to design your application, but having hooks be something that is out-of-the-box pushes you into certain patterns and needs to be actively ignored to avoid its design influence. I've worked in large codebases where they make almost everything into hooks, and they start getting ridiculous, breaking composability but at the same time giving the illusion that you are making your code more modular.
GianFabien•1y ago
I write web front-ends for industrial embedded systems. So my experience might differ from business WebApps.

In my experience it requires a longer learning curve for the various frameworks than to simply learn the relevant Web API. My learning is very much JIT and over time I have built up a robust class library that gets my stuff done. When I get stuck ChatGPT suggests fixes that sometimes work and spare me from losing more hair.

LAC-Tech•1y ago
My experience too - part of what I found is how much about how react worked I'd forgotten. But the browser itself was easier to pick up.