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"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•1y ago

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kzawpl•1y ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•1y ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

NY lawmakers vote to ban 'surveillance pricing,' but digital price tags survive

https://gothamist.com/news/ny-lawmakers-vote-to-ban-surveillance-pricing-but-digital-price-tags-s...
1•pseudolus•17s ago•0 comments

Show HN: GermanWeekly, Weekly German Lessons

https://germanweekly.com/
1•smoqadam•31s ago•0 comments

SpaceX IPO: Nice Try Though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHD8BDFYyGI
1•doener•55s ago•0 comments

To end animal suffering, the most ethical choice is to kill wild predators

https://qz.com/497675/to-truly-end-animal-suffering-the-most-ethical-choice-is-to-kill-all-predat...
1•internet_points•1m ago•1 comments

I run an AI girlfriend company. Here's why you shouldn't use it every day

https://bae.ppl.studio/letter
1•zeshutmax•1m ago•1 comments

JNU, a Vibe Coded Operating System

1•annoymousperson•2m ago•0 comments

React Native, Hermes bytecode, and the Kindle homepage

https://sighery.com/posts/patching-kindle-homepage/
1•Sighery•3m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What is the AI setup for an experienced dev starting on a new project?

2•postexitus•5m ago•0 comments

Silicon Valley including Meta has embraced MAGA politics, says Nick Clegg

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/08/silicon-valley-meta-maga-politics-nick-clegg
1•dkdbejwi383•6m ago•1 comments

Config Files That Run Code: Supply Chain Security Blindspot

https://safedep.io/config-files-that-run-code/
3•signa11•8m ago•0 comments

Tech firms must stop kids sending and receiving explicit images or face new laws

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr5j43zp2rpt
2•ColinWright•8m ago•0 comments

Jumping spiders inspire ultra-efficient (less 1W) 3D camera

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2026/06/jumping-spiders-inspire-ultra-efficient-3d-camera
1•giuliomagnifico•10m ago•0 comments

Behind the <P812: academic major> Property

https://rtnf.substack.com/p/behind-the-p812-academic-major-property
1•altilunium•10m ago•0 comments

Sanctioned Chinese Firm Releases U.S. Tech HQ Images

https://www.chosun.com/english/world-en/2026/06/06/RIG6YDGD3BEABENVV2F5HIM5DM/
1•rguiscard•14m ago•0 comments

HOM Local- a memory kernel for AI agents with audit trail and source attribution

https://github.com/wallidsaydi-creator/hom-local
1•walldad2•16m ago•0 comments

Framework Laptop 13 Pro Deep Dive – LPCAMM2

https://frame.work/gb/en/blog/framework-laptop-13-pro-deep-dive-lpcamm2
1•watbe•16m ago•0 comments

Glider – Local MCP for .NET SDK

https://glidermcp.com
1•jdthedisciple•16m ago•0 comments

A Production-Ready Factor Library for Downsampling L2 Tick Data to Daily Signals

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2•CrazyTomato•23m ago•0 comments

Gleam and the Value of Small [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6_JqYMeNqs
1•roflcopter69•24m ago•0 comments

New web search API with proper context awareness

https://search-router.com
3•SwtCyber•25m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Tool you give AI agents to sneak in prompts or connect multiple agents

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/promptgate/id6772730472
1•mrtksn•28m ago•0 comments

How much do amd64 microarchitecture levels help in Go?

https://lemire.me/blog/2026/06/06/how-much-do-amd64-microarchitecture-levels-help-in-go/
1•signa11•28m ago•0 comments

We Need the Friction of Existence (about AI and the fact that thought≠language)

https://lifehacky.net/we-need-the-friction-of-existence-da8e27e94b27?source=friends_link&sk=71fe1...
1•tombarys•30m ago•1 comments

Are high-end knife shops worth markup above big cutlery chains?

https://www.paragon-knives.com/
3•bgzlsxaz•32m ago•0 comments

UK PM gives tech firms ultimatum to block explicit images on children's phones

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/08/starmer-tech-firms-ultimatum-block-explicit-im...
6•tompagenet2•34m ago•1 comments

RayforceDB: Columnar Analytics and Graph Traversal in One Pipeline

https://rayforcedb.com/
1•tosh•37m ago•0 comments

Buy a train, bridge or tracks from the Swiss Railway

https://sbbresale.ch/
2•kisamoto•38m ago•0 comments

Let the agents democratize open source

https://world.hey.com/dhh/let-the-agents-democratize-open-source-9fd630a9
1•yulaow•38m ago•0 comments

TrailText – an ESP32 and LoRa off-grid messaging app

https://github.com/brunokeymolen/lora
1•brunokeymolen•38m ago•1 comments

Prompts I Reach for Every Week to Stay Unblocked as an Engineer

https://theaileverageweekly.com/posts/10-prompts-i-reach-for-every-week-to-stay-unblocked-as-an-e...
1•talvardi7•42m ago•1 comments