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"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•10mo ago

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kzawpl•10mo ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•10mo ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

We Tried Paying Artists Royalties on AI-Generated Work – Learnings

https://www.kapwing.com/blog/learnings-from-paying-artists-royalties-for-ai-generated-art/
1•jenthoven•1m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Favorite Non-Spammy iPhone Games?

1•bix6•6m ago•0 comments

A Survival Guide to a PhD (2016)

http://karpathy.github.io/2016/09/07/phd/
1•vismit2000•9m ago•0 comments

PEP 827: Type Manipulation

https://peps.python.org/pep-0827/
1•azhenley•10m ago•0 comments

Fil-C: A memory-safe C implementation

https://lwn.net/Articles/1042938/
1•zdkaster•12m ago•0 comments

David W. Bates, cybernetics specialist: 'The brain is not a computer'

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2026/02/28/david-w-bates-cybernetics-specialist-the-bra...
1•1vuio0pswjnm7•14m ago•0 comments

SheepDipped

1•sheepdipped•17m ago•1 comments

Anthropic launches Code Review

https://code.claude.com/docs/en/code-review
2•rishabhaiover•17m ago•1 comments

The Arts Bookstore of the Internet

https://mzs.press/
1•mooreds•18m ago•0 comments

Breaking free from smartphone addiction: Defensive tactics against algorithms

https://english.elpais.com/technology/2026-03-07/breaking-free-from-smartphone-addiction-defensiv...
2•1vuio0pswjnm7•18m ago•0 comments

Lovable, Monetization, and the Vibe Coder Economy

https://jxnl.co/writing/2025/06/12/lovable-monetization-and-the-vibe-coder-economy/
1•AnhTho_FR•21m ago•0 comments

Trial against Meta in New Mexico highlights video depositions by top executives

https://apnews.com/article/meta-instagram-new-mexico-zuckerberg-mosseri-social-e5a6749f4628cff9ff...
1•1vuio0pswjnm7•24m ago•0 comments

Lunches.fyi: Scraping corporate cafeteria menus and ranking the food

https://walzr.com/lunches-fyi/
2•meetpateltech•28m ago•0 comments

Human Brain Cells Run New Data Centers in Singapore, Melbourne

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-09/human-brain-cells-run-new-data-centers-in-sing...
1•inaros•28m ago•0 comments

Mockdown

https://www.mockdown.design
1•handfuloflight•29m ago•0 comments

Sony is testing dynamic pricing in the PlayStation Store

https://psprices.com/news/sony-ab-testing-prices/
1•xoxxala•29m ago•0 comments

Amazon tells FCC to bin SpaceX's million-satellite datacenter dream

https://www.theregister.com/2026/03/09/amazon_petitions_to_block_spacexs/
3•johnbarron•34m ago•0 comments

Lazy iteration vs. array chaining on 500k rows – benchmark results

1•gvsh_maths•37m ago•1 comments

I built a tool to export Gemini chat to PDF, Word, Docs, and Notion

2•backrun•37m ago•0 comments

Baochip-1x: What It Is, Why I'm Doing It Now, and How It Came About

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1•brewcrew•37m ago•0 comments

Sen Sheldon Whitehouse: Connections Between Trump, Russia, and Epstein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylvTFvJvB84
3•johnbarron•39m ago•0 comments

I just launched my first Roblox game "Drone Wars"

https://www.roblox.com/games/136100514232797/Drone-Wars
1•mmmmkay•40m ago•1 comments

Scotland becomes first UK country to legalise water cremations

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3•gscott•43m ago•0 comments

Loom vs. Linear: A tale of two AI-cities

https://jamespember.substack.com/p/loom-vs-linear-a-tale-of-two-ai-cities
2•jep888•45m ago•1 comments

Reese's changed its chocolate because of climate change

https://www.fooddive.com/news/hershey-reeses-ingredients-chocolate-climate-change-oped/813903/
1•del82•45m ago•2 comments

Financial group probed by congressional committee over Chinese stock scams

https://www.ft.com/content/49f541f8-c73d-4268-9621-f8604f1a8141
2•petethomas•45m ago•0 comments

Boredom Is the Price We Pay for Meaning

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/02/boredom-parenthood-father/686158/
5•myth_drannon•46m ago•0 comments

Something feels weird about this economy

https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/something-feels-weird-about-this
1•paulpauper•47m ago•0 comments

Phonyhuman

https://github.com/manav03panchal/phonyhuman
1•manavpanchal•48m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What game engine would you recommend for vibe coding?

4•general_reveal•49m ago•2 comments