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"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•1y ago

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kzawpl•1y ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•1y ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

Rust/C++ Interop Initiative: Progress Update, September 2026

https://rustfoundation.org/media/rust-cpp-interop-initiative-progress-update/
1•agluszak•38s ago•0 comments

Three.js annoys me a bit because it's an abstraction layer for people

https://twitter.com/pvncher/status/2097634541699559790
1•tosh•2m ago•0 comments

Drug use may have begun 25,000 years ago in Indonesia, research finds

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd792nll91eo
1•cisc•3m ago•0 comments

The under-35s shaping the future of biotech

https://www.technologyreview.com/2026/09/11/1143834/meet-the-under-35s-shaping-the-future-of-biot...
1•joozio•5m ago•0 comments

Xteink says they will include USB-C ports on future devices – Good e-Reader

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1•edward•5m ago•0 comments

Show HN: You can't read every ToS, but the clanker can

https://github.com/PAndreew/termsinator
1•PAndreew•6m ago•0 comments

Maptap.gg – Daily Geography Game

https://maptap.gg/
1•embedding-shape•11m ago•0 comments

Does "rtk" skill cut agent tokens by 60–90%? We tested it

https://blog.jetbrains.com/ai/2026/07/rtk-claude-code-token-savings/
1•touristtam•12m ago•0 comments

Empirical Research on Moe Safety Mechanisms

https://dealign.ai/
1•Bluestein•13m ago•0 comments

Noodle Computer – Share Linux Desktops with AI Agents on Your Mac

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1•_pdp_•14m ago•2 comments

Claude is no longer available for minors

https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15171100-age-assurance-on-claude
4•Muhammad523•19m ago•0 comments

We made Bryntum Gantt look handmade with realtime image diffusion

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1•ritzaco•19m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Quickly generate and explain complex shell commands

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1•buster•19m ago•0 comments

Gold-Plating (EU Law)

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1•doener•20m ago•0 comments

Sourcerer: Version 1.0.19 Released

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1•dezelin•22m ago•1 comments

Down Quark

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_quark
1•binyu•23m ago•0 comments

Anthropic Says Yemen Group Used Claude in Missile Development

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2•helsinkiandrew•25m ago•0 comments

Hypen – Native crossplatform UI framework

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1•hypendev•26m ago•0 comments

textlog is now available on F-Droid

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1•stagas•28m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Is learning C++ enough to start researching Hardware interactions?

1•skwasimin•29m ago•0 comments

Anthropic says it blocked possible attempts to use AI to develop bioweapons

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2•cisc•30m ago•0 comments

It's not the YAML spec's fault, but

https://slugcat.systems/post/26-09-10-yaml-spec/
2•birdculture•31m ago•0 comments

ChatGPT for Financial Services

https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-financial-services/
2•ijidak•34m ago•0 comments

Gitwal – GitHub Event Archive

https://gitwal.com
1•mihau•39m ago•0 comments

Robots Are Learning to Feel

https://spectrum.ieee.org/tactile-data-robots
1•marc__1•41m ago•0 comments

Gavin Newsom imposes strict new rules on AI, social media, chatbots for children

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/sep/10/gavin-newsom-social-media-bill
2•dgellow•42m ago•1 comments

Unless there is a coordinated slowdown, human extinction seems likely

https://x.com/Marcus_J_W
2•milkshakes•43m ago•0 comments

Mining Qwen 3.8 reasoning trace for prompt/skill evaluation

https://olegivye.com/#/article/confusion-evaluation
1•olekrk•44m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Arcstone – Fail-closed local runtime with sub-12ms execution bounds

https://github.com/trencinodin-stack/arcstone-continuity-core
2•Founderarcstone•45m ago•0 comments

Resist "AI"

https://ronjeffries.com/articles/-v026/x/t/
23•mborch•47m ago•6 comments