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"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•1y ago

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kzawpl•1y ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•1y ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

OpenCV 5 Is Here: The Biggest Leap in Years for Computer Vision

https://opencv.org/opencv-5/
1•ternaus•1m ago•0 comments

Alan Kay on "Should web browsers have stuck to being document viewers?"

https://donhopkins.medium.com/alan-kay-on-should-web-browsers-have-stuck-to-being-document-viewer...
1•signa11•2m ago•0 comments

Is This Hate Speech?

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10610-023-09543-z
1•barrister•4m ago•0 comments

Lambda or Fargate: a decision built from numbers

https://medium.com/@yalovoy/lambda-or-fargate-a-decision-built-from-numbers-b6fd8fcd7bce
1•zero-ground-445•4m ago•0 comments

The Smallest C Binary

https://blog.weineng.me/posts/smallest_c
1•signa11•7m ago•0 comments

Simpson's Paradox

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/paradox-simpson/
2•hackandthink•18m ago•0 comments

Been trying to post and I am getting flagged for it

1•Neobecomer•18m ago•1 comments

Agentic Search for Context Engineering

https://leoniemonigatti.com/blog/agentic-search-for-context-engineering.html
1•eigenBasis•18m ago•0 comments

Pennsylvania seems to just be running a steal money from Peter to feed Paul gag

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e4YjokqzwoJZuhiVJhn92FUQ9ClS5dCX/view?usp=drivesdk
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1•plurby•22m ago•0 comments

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https://bxt.rs/blog/using-fedora-silverblue-for-compositor-development/
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Above: Privacy Phones, Laptops, and Tablets

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Blitz – A modular no-JS browser written in Rust

https://blitz.is/
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AI Has Come for Serif Fonts

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1•maxloh•32m ago•0 comments

Thanks largely to robots Ukraine's now talking about winning, not just surviving

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2•doppp•43m ago•0 comments

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Free Online Survival Game – Arcade Style with Sonar Ping

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Making Claude a Chemist

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Ask HN: Does robotics capabilities research accelerate AGI timelines?

3•themasterchief•1h ago•1 comments

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1•blmayer•1h ago•0 comments

S&P 500 rejects SpaceX, also blocking entry for OpenAI and Anthropic

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/06/sp-500-blocks-fast-spacex-entry-wont-waive-rule-for-u...
84•maltalex•1h ago•10 comments

OpenAlex: All the Research, Connected and Open

https://openalex.org/
1•the-mitr•1h ago•0 comments

How to Build an AI Agent for Slack with Chat SDK and AI SDK

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1•flashbrew•1h ago•0 comments