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"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•1y ago

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kzawpl•1y ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•1y ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

Mark Rober's $60M Science Experiment [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDFGkBE2O50
1•migueloller•43s ago•0 comments

Ask HN: How do you track FIRE progress?

1•Tesnix•3m ago•0 comments

Magenta RealTime 2: Open and Local Live Music Models

https://magenta.withgoogle.com/magenta-realtime-2
1•selvan•7m ago•1 comments

BrowseComp-Plus: A More Fair and Transparent Benchmark of Deep-Research Agent

https://github.com/texttron/BrowseComp-Plus
1•colonCapitalDee•8m ago•0 comments

Meta Silently Added Face-Recognition for Its Smart Glasses to Phones

https://www.wired.com/story/meta-smart-glasses-face-recognition-nametag-connections/
1•thm•8m ago•0 comments

Building AI Neuroscience: From Atoms to Bits

https://blog.amaranth.foundation/p/building-ai-neuroscience-from-atoms
1•pminimax•8m ago•0 comments

DB Nerds – Try this out

https://kesseldb.com/
1•haz00•9m ago•0 comments

Flesh-eating screwworm returns to U.S. after 60 years, threatening cattle herd

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1•Pxtl•9m ago•1 comments

The year of IPv6-only desktop

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1•ivlad•10m ago•0 comments

SpaceX: Flying High on Impunity

https://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2026/06/01/flying-high-on-impunity/
1•ortr•18m ago•0 comments

Charges dismissed for dad who shot daughter's rapist

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2•nacho-daddy•19m ago•0 comments

Built a runtime layer so automation scripts and AI systems don't forget state

https://stateflow-dev.github.io/stateflowlabs/
1•StateflowsLabs•21m ago•0 comments

Model Optimization

https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/model-optimization
2•ankitg12•32m ago•0 comments

Linear Cosine Palettes(2025)

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2•num42•37m ago•0 comments

Senior Data Engineer – Climate Friendly

https://au.seek.com/job/92537981
2•molliejackson•38m ago•1 comments

agentgateway Joins AAIF as an Open Gateway for Agentic AI Infrastructure

https://aaif.io/blog/agentgateway-joins-aaif-as-an-open-gateway-for-agentic-ai-infrastructure/
2•wicket•38m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Wyreup.com – Common file edit tools packaged for offline and agent use

https://wyreup.com/
2•tamler•43m ago•0 comments

Anthropic Wants Worldwide AI Development Pause

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3•jonbaer•45m ago•0 comments

NASA announces 3 uncrewed missions to moon this year to prepare to build a base

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9•gmays•48m ago•0 comments

Chinese users do not like "super apps"

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7•try-working•52m ago•1 comments

The AI Treadmill

https://debliu.substack.com/p/the-ai-treadmill
2•swolpers•54m ago•0 comments

Meta scales back plan for internal mouse-tracking tech, citing staff concerns

https://www.reuters.com/world/meta-scales-back-ai-mouse-clicks-tool-citing-employee-concerns-2026...
3•gnabgib•54m ago•0 comments

Sparknotes for your agents. Try for free

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2•mattmerrick•55m ago•1 comments

Ask HN: macOS went from Cat to California, next what?

3•akashwadhwani35•1h ago•1 comments

Benevolent dictator Zuck will give Meta staff 30-minute break keylogging assault

https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/06/04/meta-to-allow-staff-breaks-from-keylogging-data-...
7•Bender•1h ago•3 comments

'Please do not vibe f–- up this software': Broken backups spark AI coding row

https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/06/04/please-do-not-vibe-f-up-this-software-broken-bac...
3•Bender•1h ago•1 comments

Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

https://www.boxofcables.dev/azure-linux-4-0-is-microsofts-first-general-purpose-linux/
13•haydenbarnes•1h ago•7 comments

Larger context windows and configurable reasoning levels for GitHub Copilot

https://github.blog/changelog/2026-06-04-larger-context-windows-and-configurable-reasoning-levels...
3•Klaster_1•1h ago•0 comments

Walmart investors reject AI workplace report as automation expands in the US

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/walmart-investors-reject-ai-workplace-report-automation-...
2•petethomas•1h ago•4 comments

Jo: A statically typed language that targets Ruby

https://jo-lang.org/
2•thunderbong•1h ago•0 comments