frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Made with ♥ by @iamnishanth

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•12mo ago

Comments

kzawpl•12mo ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•12mo ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

Elon Musk Seemingly Admits xAI Has Used OpenAI's Models to Train Its Own

https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-distill-openai-models-partly-xai/
1•satai•4m ago•0 comments

LA-SF rail will cost about $126B, with service beginning around 2040

https://ktla.com/news/california/california-high-speed-rail-cost-increase/
1•swyx•7m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Git repositories hosted directly on Freenet

https://github.com/freenet/freenet-git
2•sanity•8m ago•0 comments

U.S. Aims to Penalize Disabled Adults Who Live with Their Families

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-social-security-ssi-disability-benefits-cuts-parents-chi...
1•petethomas•8m ago•0 comments

AliothPress – self-hosted, cloud-native CMS with a wizard-based installation

https://aliothpress.com/
1•Strodt•15m ago•0 comments

One solar storm could trigger a catastrophic collision in orbit

https://spectrum.ieee.org/kessler-syndrome-crash-clock
1•thread_id•15m ago•0 comments

Show HN: A vdom-less framework that's local first

https://github.com/terajs/terajs
1•thecodergabe•17m ago•0 comments

AI Tips and Tricks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_m5RmVsmtE
1•frag•18m ago•0 comments

Show HN: ChatToMap – Scans your chats to find all your activity and trip ideas

https://chattomap.com
1•nathan_f77•22m ago•0 comments

Kolmogorov Complexity [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGN9D0n4AJA
1•sgschlesinger•22m ago•0 comments

10x Faster Real-Time High-Quality AI Video Generation

https://tenstorrent.com/solutions/real-time-video
1•montyanderson•25m ago•0 comments

LLM Summaries Are Ruining Your Learning

https://arpitbhayani.me/blogs/do-not-rely-on-summaries/
1•menonNN•26m ago•0 comments

AI and the Future of News 2026

https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/news/ai-and-future-news-2026-what-we-learnt-about-its-...
1•jruohonen•27m ago•0 comments

What do you think of people buying Mac mini's to run AI?

1•namegulf•36m ago•2 comments

Task-Specific LLM Evals That Do and Don't Work

https://eugeneyan.com/writing/evals/
1•eigenBasis•37m ago•0 comments

Mark Zuckerberg Says AI Costs Contributed to Layoffs of 8k Staffers

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2026/04/30/mark-zuckerberg-says-ai-costs-contribute...
2•ZeidJ•41m ago•0 comments

Workforce Transparency Act [pdf]

https://www.warner.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Warner.-Budd-Workforce-Transparency-Act.pdf
1•petethomas•41m ago•0 comments

Call centres dismantled and ten arrested in EUR 50 million online fraud case

https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/call-centres-dismantled-and-ten-arrested-...
1•jruohonen•41m ago•0 comments

C8s: A Confidential Kubernetes Architecture

https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.26974
2•badcryptobitch•42m ago•0 comments

Keep your agents updated with latest in your libraries

https://library-skills.io/
1•ankitg12•43m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: In the age of AI do we need to learn how to code?

1•JasonHEIN•47m ago•1 comments

OpenAtom Foundation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenAtom_Foundation
1•gfalcao•48m ago•0 comments

Product market fit isn't a stage, it's a gauntlet

https://jonno.nz/posts/product-market-fit-is-a-gauntlet/
1•halger•49m ago•0 comments

Dividing 1 by 998,001 Yields a Very Strange Decimal

https://brilliantlearning.in/dividing-1-by-998001-yields-a-very-strange-decimal/
4•thunderbong•52m ago•0 comments

AWS Will Be an OEM, Just Like Google and Maybe Microsoft

https://www.nextplatform.com/cloud/2026/04/30/aws-will-be-an-oem-just-like-google-and-maybe-micro...
1•rbanffy•53m ago•0 comments

PrivClaw – Open-source self-hostable AI plugin marketplace (FastAPI and Next.js)

https://github.com/geneleo537-afk/privclaw
1•GeneLeo•53m ago•0 comments

CLI based issue tracker TUI – distributed and backed by Git

https://github.com/ljtn/epiq
1•tjek•54m ago•0 comments

The Many Forms of Marcel Duchamp

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/05/04/marcel-duchamp-art-review-moma
1•petethomas•1h ago•0 comments

LLMs Don't Quite Beat Classical Hyperparameter Optimization Algorithms

https://github.com/ferreirafabio/autoresearch-automl
3•achierius•1h ago•2 comments

All the Sad Young Chinese Professionals

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/2026/04/china-loneliness-epidemic/686994/
3•petethomas•1h ago•0 comments