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"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•1y ago

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kzawpl•1y ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•1y ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

Claude may have leaked your chats to the public

https://lifehacker.com/tech/your-claude-chats-may-have-been-exposed-on-google
1•zapataband1•58s ago•0 comments

Experimental explosion detected off Florida coast sparks earthquake alert

https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-16011619/experimental-explosion-florida-coast-navy....
1•Bender•2m ago•0 comments

Paramount Agrees to Delay Warner Bros. Merger for Months

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/24/business/media/paramount-warner-bros-merger-delayed.html
1•cdrnsf•4m ago•0 comments

Drinks at work? Svedka debuts office water vodka cooler

https://ktla.com/news/consumer-business/drinks-at-work-svedka-debuts-office-water-vodka-cooler/
1•Bender•4m ago•0 comments

Tesla buys the output of a new 140 MW Texas solar farm

https://electrek.co/2026/07/28/tesla-buys-texas-solar-farm-output-zelestra/
2•Bender•5m ago•0 comments

The Anthropic-Physical Intelligence Rumor Roiling AI Twitter

https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/21/the-anthropic-physical-intelligence-rumor-roiling-ai-twitter/
2•gmays•6m ago•0 comments

VRSE: Validated Regional Support Expansion for PyTorch

https://github.com/Byte-Naut/vrse-pytorch
1•Byte-Naut•10m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Vyne – Zapier for DeFi users, run from any LLM or the workflow builder

https://app.vyne.finance
1•rajgoesout•12m ago•0 comments

'The Odyssey' Translator Emily Wilson Slams Nolan's 'Abysmal' Screenplay

https://variety.com/2026/film/news/odyssey-translator-emily-wilson-slams-christopher-nolan-bad-wr...
2•handfuloflight•13m ago•0 comments

Half-Life ported to Mac OS 9

https://mac-classic.com/news/half-life-ported-to-mac-os-9/
1•freediver•14m ago•0 comments

A Look Behind the Data: How Whoop Measures Heart Rate

https://www.whoop.com/us/en/thelocker/a-look-behind-the-data-how-whoop-measures-heart-rate/
2•brandonb•15m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Verifiable receipts for firmware CVE reproduction

https://github.com/prevotai/colmena
1•TheLuisBolivar•19m ago•0 comments

OpenAI just open-sourced Codex Security

https://github.com/openai/codex-security
16•bakigul•20m ago•0 comments

The Phone Scammers Next Door

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1•nianderwallace•21m ago•0 comments

Tailark

https://tailark.com
1•handfuloflight•22m ago•0 comments

Goodhart's Law Comes for Every Benchmark You Trust

https://cacm.acm.org/blogcacm/goodharts-law-comes-for-every-benchmark-you-trust/
3•alasr•25m ago•0 comments

I sent Claude Opus 5 '–-' and it wrote me 5k tokens about a cartographer

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3•auspiv•27m ago•0 comments

China's AI weather warning system Mazu expanding across Global South

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4•vinnyglennon•28m ago•0 comments

ACP v2 is available in Draft

https://agentclientprotocol.com/announcements/acp-v2-draft
1•gmays•28m ago•0 comments

Issetugid() Sadness

https://gist.github.com/nicowilliams/4daf74a3a0c86848d3cbd9d0cdb5e26e
1•fanf2•31m ago•0 comments

Apple won't turn on any 'restricted mode' for missed lease payments

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3•speckx•32m ago•0 comments

eBay agreed to pay nearly $50M to couple sent cockroaches, bloody pig mask

https://apnews.com/article/ebay-settlement-d0886f1036e198f77669707db9fe1f2b
4•RankingMember•33m ago•0 comments

OpenReviewer: A Specialized LLM for Generating Critical Scientific Paper Reviews

https://aclanthology.org/2025.naacl-demo.44/
2•Anon84•34m ago•0 comments

What Is the Atmosphere?

https://lab.leaflet.pub/3mrq6ma5dgs2x
4•danabramov•35m ago•0 comments

Toolcraft

https://toolcraft.sh
4•handfuloflight•35m ago•0 comments

Spoke Head Identification Chart

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Radio Balkan – 500 Balkan radio stations in one HTML file

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We used to be able to buy things in this country

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3•mikestew•39m ago•0 comments

Jacob Tsimerman on Competition, AI, and the Future of Mathematics [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYF-ReeAtY
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Azulejo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azulejo
2•Amorymeltzer•44m ago•0 comments