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"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•1y ago

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kzawpl•1y ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•1y ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

America's data center revolt is getting a boost from China-linked bots

https://www.axios.com/2026/08/28/china-ai-data-center-backlash-bots
2•jnord•2m ago•0 comments

Chunky Agents

https://ianbarber.blog/2026/08/28/chunky-agents/
1•matt_d•3m ago•0 comments

LaneGate – Git-native worktree orchestrator for AI agents

https://github.com/sudheerdvn/lanegate
1•dvenkat9•8m ago•0 comments

Show HN: AMC Stocks Hub – asset-manager profiles, 13F holdings, and co-holdings

https://assetmanagementcompany.net/
1•lzyuan1006•8m ago•0 comments

US Military uses laser to down three Mexican cartel drones near border

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-military-uses-laser-down-three-mexican-cart...
1•bushwart•12m ago•0 comments

OpenAI to end agreement with SpaceX's AI coding tool Cursor

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/openai-end-partnership-with-spacexs-cursor-2026-08...
1•tartoran•17m ago•0 comments

Survival Lessons from the Great Depression – The Horrifying Things Americans Did

https://johnwalter25.substack.com/p/50-survival-lessons-from-the-great
1•bushwart•18m ago•0 comments

Taiwan prosecutors search Unimicron in suspected China fraud case

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taiwan-prosecutors-search-unimicron-suspected-china-fr...
1•tartoran•18m ago•0 comments

Explainer: What is visual verification and why does Reuters practice it?

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/what-is-visual-verification-why-does-reuters-pract...
1•1659447091•28m ago•0 comments

Global Trade and United States Navy

https://acoup.blog/2026/08/28/collections-global-trade-and-united-states-navy/
1•Tomte•29m ago•0 comments

DoD confirms 'refrigeration disruption' at military commissaries

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2026/08/28/dod-confirms-refrigeration-disruption...
3•everybodyknows•31m ago•0 comments

Yes, We're in an AI Bubble. Just Look to 1980s Japan

https://foreignpolicy.com/2026/08/28/nvidia-earnings-quarterly-report-ai-economic-bubble-japan-hi...
2•CaptainZapp•32m ago•1 comments

AI Stock Research Assistant · Streamlit

https://ai-stock-research-kiaan.streamlit.app
1•KiaanKothari•33m ago•0 comments

Nvidia Starts Pac as AI Chip Maker Builds DC Influence Force

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-27/nvidia-starts-pac-as-ai-chip-maker-builds-dc-i...
2•dagmx•37m ago•0 comments

Venezuelan opposition up in arms over reports US wants big stake in oil and gas

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/28/us-venezuela-oil-gas-stake
1•fittingopposite•37m ago•0 comments

Are these 13 free AV and Robotics engineering calculators are useful?

1•dlimbu•39m ago•0 comments

An Unlikely Experiment

https://rushed-reflections.bearblog.dev/an-unlikely-experiment/
1•signa11•41m ago•0 comments

Overlay

https://www.getoverlay.io/app/agents?showcase=1
1•handfuloflight•47m ago•0 comments

Yesterday, an iPhone App for Yesterday's Weather

https://interconnected.org/home/2026/08/26/yesterday
1•Tomte•48m ago•0 comments

Debian has published the official results for the 2026 GR on LLM usage

https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_llm/results.txt
5•tulio_ribeiro•56m ago•1 comments

Xpecter – A Terminal, Reimagined

https://xpecter.net/
1•allunderheaven•57m ago•0 comments

DIY – Build a Potato Box (2022)

https://www.rebootedmom.com/build-a-potato-box/
1•akkartik•59m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What BOYK AI client are you using?

1•yeeyang•1h ago•0 comments

A browser-based automated JavaScript testing framework in one .html file

https://github.com/swans-one/browser-test
2•thunderbong•1h ago•0 comments

AI Mediated Learning

https://substack.com/profile/526971458-yasaswi-yash-kompella/note/c-325001983
1•YasaswiKompella•1h ago•0 comments

Microsoft publishes AI Agent Shared Responsibility Model

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/security/fundamentals/shared-responsibility-ai-agent
2•omkarparth•1h ago•0 comments

Obsessing over AI Agent Harnesses

https://www.roderick.dev/writing/2026-08-28-obsessing-harnesses/
1•tomrod•1h ago•0 comments

Welcoming Jess Izen, [AWS], as Engineer in Residence at the Rust Foundation

https://rustfoundation.org/media/welcoming-jess-izen-as-engineer-in-residence-at-the-rust-foundat...
2•shudder•1h ago•0 comments

I built an AI assistant that keeps working after the chat ends

https://shotah.github.io/gantree/
1•christopher-blo•1h ago•0 comments

Meta's Push to Put Robots to Work in Data Centers

https://www.wired.com/story/inside-metas-experiments-with-data-center-robots/
4•newsomix9xl•1h ago•4 comments