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"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•1y ago

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kzawpl•1y ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•1y ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

How Stream Processing Works: From Stateless Functions to Stateful Windows

https://medium.com/@DolphinDB_Inc/why-stream-processing-matters-and-how-dolphindb-does-it-b63c5dc...
1•yiweileng•3m ago•0 comments

Introduce a memory safe compilation mode inspired by Fil-C

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1•mpweiher•4m ago•0 comments

I Revived My Broken MacBook into My Own Personal Cloud

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1•matsmoll•6m ago•0 comments

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App iOS/Android

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ASI May Require a Level of Trust We're Not Willing to Give

https://rodyne.com/?p=4070
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The Pentagon Is Finally Buying (Some) Weapons from Startups

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The video game atlas – vgmaps.com

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2•xiaodai•13m ago•0 comments

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https://danluu.com/ai-coding/
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Stolen Buttons

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LLM Wiki Implementation

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2•Markoff•22m ago•1 comments

Exact Prompt Used by OpenAI for "A Proof of the Cycle Double Cover Conjecture" [pdf]

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4•_____k•42m ago•1 comments

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Making models smarter and cheaper at the same time

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2•birdculture•1h ago•0 comments

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4•01-_-•1h ago•0 comments

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