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"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•8mo ago

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kzawpl•8mo ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•8mo ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

Edison neglected maintenance before the Jan. 7 fires. Now its trying to catch up

https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2025-12-17/edison-neglected-maintenance-of-its-aging-tr...
1•PaulHoule•1m ago•0 comments

IRC technology news from the second half of 2025

https://www.ilmarilauhakangas.fi/irc_technology_news_from_the_second_half_of_2025/
1•speckx•1m ago•0 comments

Anthropic study says job impact is more evolution than apocalypse

https://www.axios.com/2026/01/15/anthropic-study-work-ai-jobs
1•amscotti•1m ago•0 comments

All the news that's fit to WhatsApp

https://www.theverge.com/news/862076/documented-immigration-reporting-whatsapp-wechat-nextdoor
1•homo_economicus•2m ago•0 comments

Anthropic Launches AI Healthcare Tools as Competition with OpenAI Heats Up

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anishasircar/2026/01/14/anthropic-launches-ai-healthcare-tools-as-co...
1•amscotti•2m ago•0 comments

Vital Synth: How to Use It and Where to Begin (2025)

https://blog.landr.com/vital-synth/
1•Tomte•3m ago•0 comments

Detailed map reveals groundwater levels across the U.S.

https://phys.org/news/2026-01-reveals-groundwater.html
1•toomuchtodo•3m ago•1 comments

Predicting mental health recovery with mixed-effects models

https://ucladatares.medium.com/what-predicts-bouncing-back-from-mental-health-struggles-775586d166af
1•souliano•4m ago•0 comments

Greenland's defence is 'common concern' for NATO, as European troops fly in

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/15/greenland-defence-nato-denmark-prime-minister-europ...
1•pjmlp•5m ago•0 comments

Global Subsidence of River Deltas

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09928-6
1•stevenjgarner•6m ago•0 comments

SiFive to adopt Nvidia technology for speedy links between chips

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/sifive-adopt-nvidia-technology-speedy-links-betwee...
2•fork-bomber•8m ago•0 comments

How We Synchronize .NET's Virtual Monorepo

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/how-we-synchronize-dotnets-virtual-monorepo/
2•premun•8m ago•0 comments

US Government to take 25% cut of AMD, Nvidia AI sales to China

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/01/us-government-to-take-25-cut-of-amd-nvidia-ai-sales-t...
3•homo_economicus•9m ago•1 comments

Computer science used to be a golden ticket to a lucrative career

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jobs/schools-universities/computer-science-graduates-cant-get-job/
1•msolujic•12m ago•0 comments

Launching a modular SaaS: Only pay for what you use

https://moduleflow.tech
1•hmcabrera•13m ago•1 comments

Ui.dev and Fireship Join Forces

https://fireship.dev/uidotdev-and-fireship-join-forces
2•taubek•13m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Was my X account suspended as retaliation for this Reddit post?

2•amichail•14m ago•1 comments

Recursion and Induction: A Self-Contained Course Using ACL2

https://acl2.org/doc/?topic=ACL2____R-AND-I-TABLE-OF-CONTENTS
1•nathan-barry•14m ago•0 comments

Found: Medieval Cargo Ship – Largest Vessel of Its Kind Ever

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/archaeologists-say-theyve-unearthed-a-massive-medieval-...
2•bookofjoe•15m ago•0 comments

Architecture+cost drivers for a deterministic rule/metric engine 1,200metrics

1•Trackdiver•16m ago•0 comments

Turning weeks of medical device documentation into minutes

2•feargalosull•16m ago•0 comments

Hetzner Storage Boxes

https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box/
3•truegoric•19m ago•0 comments

New Vulnerability in n8n – CVE-2026-21858

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2026/01/new-vulnerability-in-n8n.html
2•882542F3884314B•19m ago•0 comments

Brain displacement and nonlinear deformation following human spaceflight

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2505682122
1•stevenjgarner•20m ago•0 comments

Apple Is Fighting for TSMC Capacity as Nvidia Takes Center Stage

https://www.culpium.com/p/exclusiveapple-is-fighting-for-tsmc
40•speckx•22m ago•9 comments

Compute multiple modular inverses with Montgomery's trick

https://www.johndcook.com/blog/2026/01/14/montgomerys-trick/
1•ibobev•23m ago•0 comments

What Does It Mean to Make a Voice Call in a Post-Telephone World?–Howard vs. RNC

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1•hn_acker•23m ago•0 comments

Broken Proofs and Broken Provers

https://lawrencecpaulson.github.io//2026/01/15/Broken_proofs.html
1•ibobev•23m ago•0 comments

India warns Apple it will proceed with antitrust case after plays for time

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/india-warns-apple-it-will-proceed...
4•freedomben•24m ago•0 comments

Time in C++: Creating Your Own Clocks with <Chrono>

https://www.sandordargo.com/blog/2026/01/14/clocks-part-7-custom-clocks
4•ibobev•24m ago•0 comments