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"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•1y ago

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kzawpl•1y ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•1y ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

Zero-native by Vercel: Build tiny desktop and mobile apps with Zig and web UI

https://github.com/vercel-labs/zero-native
1•maxloh•7m ago•0 comments

Antikythera Mechanism (oldest known analogue computer)

https://www.historyofinformation.com/detail.php?id=120
1•p0u4a•11m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Gawk Dev – live feed tracking what's happening across AI tools

https://gawk.dev
1•Srinathprasanna•11m ago•0 comments

You can have your composer.lock and not make others eat it too

https://kevinullyott.com/blog/2026-05-05-composer-lock-gitattributes/
1•orrison•18m ago•0 comments

Riding the D in Los Angeles: city hopes new subway stations will be game changer

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/09/los-angeles-subway-public-transportation
1•raybb•18m ago•0 comments

Running local models on an M4 with 24GB memory

https://jola.dev/posts/running-local-models-on-m4
3•shintoist•19m ago•0 comments

The Mythology of Rice and Beans

https://economistwritingeveryday.com/2024/12/13/the-mythology-of-rice-and-beans/
1•ksymph•22m ago•0 comments

How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?

https://dunkels.com/adam/claude-user-space-ip-stack-ping/
2•adunk•26m ago•0 comments

ReactOS ARM64-port finally boots to desktop and even works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1LjnFKGDhQ
1•jeditobe•26m ago•0 comments

Canada admits bill C-22 would allow govt to secretly order microphone activation

https://xcancel.com/rebelprazz/status/2053606378238009832#m
4•CGMthrowaway•30m ago•0 comments

Time Lock Encryption Oracle

https://timelock.sh
3•leishman•30m ago•1 comments

Proprioception

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprioception
2•andsoitis•36m ago•0 comments

Why DC's Metro Wants to Automate Its Trains

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-07/dc-s-metro-makes-a-case-for-driverless-red-lin...
2•raybb•38m ago•0 comments

I'm Leaving Gemini for Tax Reasons

3•liamOR•42m ago•2 comments

Ask HN: Can you make money from writing short stories with the help of AI?

2•amichail•47m ago•2 comments

ELIZA: A Computer Program for the Study of Natural Language Communication [pdf]

https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/WEIZENBAUM-1966-ELIZA-A-Computer-Program-For-the-...
3•tcp_handshaker•52m ago•1 comments

Ask HN: What are some good resources on AI Engineering and Prompting

4•mraza007•54m ago•3 comments

Show HN: I trained a chess engine to play like humans

5•hazard•57m ago•0 comments

I run a company with 30 engineers. Built this app with AI and none of them

https://footbeen.com/blog/i-built-a-production-app-with-ai-no-developers
3•dmgmyza•1h ago•0 comments

Frankfurt expands commercial EV fleet with 10 new vocational trucks

https://electrek.co/2026/05/10/frankfurt-expands-commercial-ev-fleet-with-10-new-vocational-trucks/
2•breve•1h ago•0 comments

Large-Scale Photogrammetric Documentation of St. John's Co-Cathedral [pdf]

https://mkenely.com/publications/preprints/large-scale-photogrammetric-st-johns.pdf
2•andsoitis•1h ago•0 comments

Checkmate in Iran

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/2026/05/iran-war-trump-losing/687094/
6•xqcgrek2•1h ago•1 comments

Design Framework for Conversational AI, Curatorial Insights in Cultural Heritage [pdf]

https://mkenely.com/publications/preprints/from-broadcast-to-dialogue.pdf
1•andsoitis•1h ago•0 comments

Anthropic says 'evil' portrayals were responsible for Claudes blackmail attempts

https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/10/anthropic-says-evil-portrayals-of-ai-were-responsible-for-claud...
2•evo_9•1h ago•0 comments

Vibe-Coded Apps Expose Corporate and Personal Data on the Open Web

https://www.wired.com/story/thousands-of-vibe-coded-apps-expose-corporate-and-personal-data-on-th...
2•abdelhousni•1h ago•1 comments

Obsidian plugin was abused to deploy a remote access trojan

https://cyber.netsecops.io/articles/obsidian-plugin-abused-in-campaign-to-deploy-phantom-pulse-rat/
22•cmbailey•1h ago•5 comments

Chris Hohn's fund slashes $8B Microsoft stake in warning over AI disruption

https://www.ft.com/content/639703f3-064c-4065-96dc-11a9dfd6d83c
2•fallinditch•1h ago•1 comments

Amazon uses its logistics empire to take on UPS and FedEx in freight, shipping

https://www.geekwire.com/2026/amazon-turns-its-logistics-empire-into-a-new-business-taking-on-ups...
1•TMWNN•1h ago•0 comments

Mycelium: A protocol spec to replace the Web – feedback welcome

https://mycelium-network.netlify.app
2•Nexi_CSN•1h ago•0 comments

Plex's price hikes prove I was right to switch to Jellyfin

https://www.androidauthority.com/plex-price-hikes-get-jellyfin-3663600/
14•Brajeshwar•1h ago•8 comments