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"A milion token context" Big AI says. But the model is accurate for 2-4K tokens

https://unagent.eu/2025/04/22/misleading-promises-of-long-context-llm/
2•kzawpl•1y ago

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kzawpl•1y ago
Over last two years there were claims of better long context capabilities for LLM, but that is often tested on exact text search. New benchmark called NoLiMa shows that long context capability of LLM is still poor, if you want LLM to perform some abstraction and reasoning.
vessenes•1y ago
Meh. NoLima is helpful, in that it shows what we all "feel" working with models -- there's a marked dropoff in accuracy and intelligence as we get past 4-32k of context, depending on the model.

But, it seems unreasonable to be super worried about this -- a year or two ago, models couldn't easily find needles in haystacks of long context. As training and test strategies delivered trainable content, this became a thing that could be done perfectly across millions of tokens of context. There has not been a good way to incentivize models to do anything more but remember locations yet.

We are (mostly) paying the full costs of attending to the entire context in current architectures, and it seems pretty reasonable that we will therefore be able to train those architectures to more fully attend across context if we get the right training data into (ideally) an RL loop.

NoLima is an okay test, but I think the most recent OpenAI tests are significantly better and quite interesting; OpenAI-MRCR and Graphwalks are both super smart ideas about how to programmatically generate data that is easy to evaluate and forces better cross context attention.

From their 4.1 announcement: Graphwalks fills the context window with a directed graph composed of hexadecimal hashes, and then asks the model to perform a breadth-first search (BFS) starting from a random node in the graph. We then ask it to return all nodes at a certain depth.

MRCR asks for direct quotes at semantically identified locations in the text, e.g. poems about tapirs, bears and ballerinas, as well as stories about tapirs, bears and ballerinas are generated, perhaps fifty each. The system is asked "give me the third poem about tapirs". This requires counting, conceptual attention, and also distinguishing between stories and poems.

They only test their own models on MRCR for the benchmark graph, but it's still worth reviewing: the accuracy curves are super interesting. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4-1/

Mining And refining: uranium and plutonium (2024)

https://hackaday.com/2024/04/24/mining-and-refining-uranium-and-plutonium/
1•leonidasrup•2m ago•0 comments

How an astrophysicist uses Codex to help simulate black holes

https://openai.com/index/using-codex-to-simulate-black-holes/
1•gmays•8m ago•0 comments

AI: Surgeon's Assistant or Commodity on a Meter?

https://replicated.wiki/blog/stream.html
1•gritzko•8m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Hanzi Popup – Chinese Language Reader for iOS

https://krmanik.github.io/hanzipopupapp/
1•krmani•14m ago•0 comments

Effective Note Taking

https://isgin01.github.io/posts/effective-note-taking/
1•pullshark91•18m ago•0 comments

SchemaFlow: Agentic Database Change Impact Analysis, SQL Gen and Eval Guardrails

https://developers.openai.com/cookbook/examples/partners/schemaflow_design_guide/schemaflow_cookbook
1•gmays•19m ago•0 comments

Making FlashAttention-4 faster for inference

https://modal.com/blog/flash-attention-4-faster
1•birdculture•20m ago•0 comments

A Missing Woman from Germany Reappears in the Epstein Files

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1•doener•27m ago•0 comments

Consciousness likely not unique to earthlings, paper says

https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2026/06/10/consciousness-likely-not-unique-earthlings-paper-says
1•giuliomagnifico•27m ago•0 comments

As Donald Trump turns 80, he faces a foe he can never defeat: Father Time

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2•hebelehubele•29m ago•1 comments

An O(x)Caml book that runs

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1•matt_d•30m ago•0 comments

Tribblix: the retro illumos distribution

http://tribblix.org/
7•naturalmovement•32m ago•0 comments

How (and Why) SpaceX Will Colonize Mars

https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/08/how-and-why-spacex-will-colonize-mars.html
2•kunalsin9h•40m ago•0 comments

Digg Reborn

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Story of How Im Running an Unlimited $6/Month AI Provider on 4x RTX 3090s

1•yolo-auto•44m ago•0 comments

World Models and the Emergence of a "First-Person" Perspective in an AI [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nQSoiC5VHs
1•mojuba•45m ago•0 comments

Frontier AI companies will never exceed the capability frontier again

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2•williamtrask•51m ago•0 comments

OpenAI hit with multistate probe into possible user harm as its IPO looms

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2•1vuio0pswjnm7•51m ago•0 comments

AP Transit – A lightweight 3D real-time NYC subway and PATH map

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1•UnitedOfTransit•52m ago•0 comments

Git merges can be better

https://brandondong.github.io/blog/git_merges_can_be_better/
2•brandon_bot•55m ago•0 comments

New Documents Detail Nine-Figure, Silicon Valley–Funded "Abundance Movement"

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2•slater•1h ago•0 comments

Extinction-Level Capitalism

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3•csbartus•1h ago•0 comments

Phoenix LiveView 1.2 Released

https://phoenixframework.org/blog/phoenix-liveview-1-2-released
2•ksec•1h ago•0 comments

Show HN: Motplot is a crossword but it plays like Sudoku

https://motplot.app/
3•jamwise•1h ago•1 comments

Quick: An internal hosting platform for the AI era

https://shopify.engineering/quick
2•ksec•1h ago•0 comments

Forked TensorZero after it was archived after raising $7.3M

https://github.com/agentify-sh/gateway
2•agentifysh•1h ago•0 comments

Initial Results on Legal Agent Benchmark

https://twitter.com/gabepereyra/status/2059320727988224128
1•gmays•1h ago•0 comments

Show HN: Agent Gate – a deterministic CI firewall for AI-generated PRs

https://github.com/sjh9714/Agent-Gate
1•sjh9714•1h ago•0 comments

Design Engineer at Solve Intelligence

https://foundersarehiring.com/job/on-site/design-engineer-6a2bbb90fd4cdebe8c4ed02f
1•niksmac•1h ago•0 comments

Co-Founder Honch

https://www.honch.io/
2•Raeedzz•1h ago•1 comments