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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•10mo ago

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tocs3•10mo ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

The Life-and-Death Exhaustion of React

https://im.not.ci/what-a-react/
2•Nullpinter•1m ago•0 comments

The Outlaws: On the Road with a 1960s Biker Gang

https://flashbak.com/the-outlaws-on-the-road-a-1960s-biker-gang-482415/
1•bookofjoe•10m ago•0 comments

Commitgen – AI-generated Conventional Commit messages from your staged diff

2•TheAary•10m ago•0 comments

Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/04/android-now-stops-you-sharing-your-location-in-photos/
2•edent•11m ago•0 comments

HumansMap, an interactive graph visualization of 3M+ Wikidata entities

https://humansmap.com
1•abstracthinking•12m ago•1 comments

The Global API Injection Pattern

https://www.elbeno.com/blog/?p=1831
2•ingve•13m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Digest – a Claude Code skill for your daily dev news digest

https://github.com/camilleroux/tech-digest
1•camilleroux•13m ago•0 comments

AIs can 'memorize' data they shouldn't. Can they be forced to forget?

https://www.science.org/content/article/ais-can-memorize-data-they-shouldn-t-can-they-be-forced-f...
1•giuliomagnifico•15m ago•0 comments

Share private Gitea/Forgejo repos secretly

https://sharemygit.com/
1•onesandofgrain•15m ago•1 comments

Ronja: Optical point-to-point data link with 1.4km range and 10Mbps full duplex

https://ronja.twibright.com/about.php
1•fanf2•17m ago•0 comments

How to Tax Billionaires

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/04/estate-tax-billionaires-wealth/686770/
1•monkeydust•19m ago•0 comments

"Darwin-27B-Opus: Surpassing the Foundation Model Without Training"

https://huggingface.co/blog/FINAL-Bench/darwin-gpqa
1•makaimc•20m ago•0 comments

ReBot-DevArm: open-source Robotic Arm

https://github.com/Seeed-Projects/reBot-DevArm
1•rickcarlino•20m ago•0 comments

Data centers' heat exhaust is not raising the land temperature

https://blog.andymasley.com/p/data-centers-heat-exhaust-is-not
1•zajio1am•20m ago•0 comments

Announcing DuckDB 1.5.2

https://duckdb.org/2026/04/13/announcing-duckdb-152
1•henrikhorluck•21m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Git-style branching for your Rails database

https://github.com/carldaws/activerecord-postgresql-branched
1•carldaws•24m ago•0 comments

Syntonic Dentiforms Redux

https://aras-p.info/blog/2026/04/13/Syntonic-Dentiforms-redux/
1•ingve•24m ago•0 comments

Bangen is an ASCII banner renderer built on pyfiglet, rich, and Pillow

https://github.com/programmersd21/bangen
1•PaulHoule•27m ago•0 comments

Apple Says Lebanon Villages Weren't Removed from Maps. It Never Had Them

https://www.wired.me/story/apple-says-southern-lebanon-villages-werent-removed-from-maps-it-never...
1•docdeek•29m ago•1 comments

I track what developers say about AI coding tools each week

https://murmure.cc
3•ianalyze•29m ago•1 comments

Struggling to heat your home? How about 500 Raspberry Pi units?

https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/03/thermify_heathub_raspberry_pi/
3•cmsefton•32m ago•0 comments

Galactic Algorithm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_algorithm
2•tmtvl•32m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Why are printers always so unreliable?

2•keiferski•35m ago•5 comments

Too much discussion of the XOR swap trick

https://heather.cafe/posts/too_much_xor_swap_trick/
1•CJefferson•37m ago•0 comments

Data Center Outlook: Half of 2026 Pipeline May Not Materialize

https://www.sightlineclimate.com/research/data-center-outlook
2•giuliomagnifico•38m ago•0 comments

Java 26 new Feature Breakdown With Examples

https://javatechonline.com/java-26-new-features-with-examples/
1•birdculture•38m ago•1 comments

Show HN: AI Content Attestation & Verification w/ Revocable Signatures

https://lyfe.ninja/news/#know-your-agent-with-blkbolt
1•lyfeninja•38m ago•1 comments

The Internet's Most Powerful Archiving Tool Is in Peril

https://www.wired.com/story/the-internets-most-powerful-archiving-tool-is-in-mortal-peril/
2•Anon84•38m ago•2 comments

Radio Browser

https://www.radio-browser.info
3•carlos-menezes•40m ago•0 comments

MCP Apps on Mobile: The Iframe Scroll Problem Nobody Talks About

https://casys.ai/blog/mcp-apps-mobile-ux-patterns
1•ErwanLP•41m ago•0 comments