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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•11mo ago

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tocs3•11mo ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

Riju: Fast online playground for every programming language

https://riju.codes/
1•gurjeet•1m ago•0 comments

How AI Works Under the Hood – LLMs Explained with Code

https://nitayneeman.com/blog/how-ai-works-under-the-hood-llms-explained-with-code/
1•thunderbong•2m ago•0 comments

Arithmeum Museum

https://www.arithmeum.uni-bonn.de/en/arithmeum.html
1•soupspaces•3m ago•0 comments

Show HN: I Replaced React in GraphiQL with Svelte

https://code.webb.page/eol/graphiql.git/about/
4•NetOpWibby•6m ago•0 comments

0xBitNet

https://github.com/m96-chan/0xBitNet
2•oldfuture•8m ago•0 comments

Muscles by Electricity: The Latest Fitness Craze?

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/fitness/electrical-muscle-stimulation-ems-workout-03dce7e3
2•lxm•8m ago•0 comments

Character.ai Faces Unlawful Practice of Medicine Claim in Pennsylvania Suit

https://www.law.com/therecorder/2026/05/06/characterai-maker-faces-unlawful-practice-of-medicine-...
3•1vuio0pswjnm7•15m ago•2 comments

Compaction in `Sid`: A Novel Algorithm?

https://rescrv.net/w/2026/05/06/compaction-in-sid
2•rescrv•18m ago•1 comments

Spec CPU 2026

https://www.spec.org/cpu2026/
2•sanxiyn•22m ago•0 comments

School Cellphone Ban Study Finds Mixed Results

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/04/us/did-school-cellphone-bans-study.html
2•lxm•28m ago•0 comments

We had people come just to see it: Amazon delivers its first UK parcels by drone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx21k21vnmgo
2•nmstoker•29m ago•0 comments

Three-Em Dash

https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+2E3B
4•gregsadetsky•32m ago•0 comments

Nvidia Enterprise Reference Architectures for AI Data Centers

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/technologies/enterprise-reference-architecture/
2•nalinidash•34m ago•1 comments

SpaceX is starting to move on from the most successful rocket

https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/05/spacex-is-starting-to-move-on-from-the-worlds-most-successf...
2•LorenDB•35m ago•0 comments

Permacomputing Principles

https://permacomputing.net/principles/
5•andsoitis•41m ago•0 comments

Hantavirus explained: Symptoms, transmission and treatment

https://epi.ufl.edu/2026/05/06/hantavirus-explained-symptoms-transmission-and-treatment/
3•rolph•41m ago•0 comments

Quilt Poems

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4•andsoitis•42m ago•0 comments

Orthohantavirus

https://viralzone.expasy.org/213.html?outline=all_by_species
3•rolph•45m ago•0 comments

Encountering Artificial Intelligence: Ethical and Anthropological Investigations

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4•andsoitis•47m ago•0 comments

An SDK to accept payments from Agents

https://github.com/GTG-Labs/sangria
3•simantakDabhade•48m ago•0 comments

If AI cuts jobs, it would also threaten Social Security and Medicare

https://minnesotareformer.com/2026/04/17/if-ai-cuts-jobs-it-would-also-threaten-social-security-a...
6•littlexsparkee•49m ago•2 comments

Marco Rubio discovers he needs to take over Spirit Airlines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whF9C5j7X8k
4•keepamovin•54m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Dreamwork – a job search site I made after Indeed fired my pregnant wif

https://www.dreamworkhq.com/
3•cojj25•54m ago•1 comments

Ridiculous Things I Utterly Love About Vampire Crawlers

https://kotaku.com/vampire-crawlers-survivors-garlic-poe-decks-chests-sponge-2000689719
4•PaulHoule•1h ago•0 comments

SpaceX IPO gives Musk unchecked power and forbids investor lawsuits

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/05/report-spacex-ipo-gives-musk-unchecked-power-and-forb...
9•pzxc•1h ago•1 comments

Geography Is Four-Dimensional

https://sive.rs/4d
5•inatreecrown2•1h ago•1 comments

Nobody understands the point of hybrid cars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnUFH5GX_fI
4•incomplete•1h ago•0 comments

Cognitive Surrender

https://twitter.com/addyosmani/status/2052124873208799378
4•ayoisaiah•1h ago•0 comments

The Vatican's Website in Latin

https://www.vatican.va/latin/latin_index.html
52•ks2048•1h ago•25 comments

Discord group guessed the URL to Anthropic's Mythos model before CISA used it

https://www.msn.com/en-us/technology/cybersecurity/discord-group-guessed-the-url-to-anthropic-s-m...
5•Imustaskforhelp•1h ago•5 comments