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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•1y ago

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tocs3•1y ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

Ford Reveals Mach-E Battery Degradation After 100k Miles

https://insideevs.com/news/814780/ford-mustang-mach-e-battery-degradation-range-study/
3•xbmcuser•7m ago•1 comments

Show HN: 3D Conformal Transformations via Geometric Algebra

https://static.laszlokorte.de/conformal-3d/
1•laszlokorte•11m ago•0 comments

Gisting

https://shopify.engineering/gisting
1•sonabinu•19m ago•0 comments

Mountains of Kong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountains_of_Kong
1•silver92bullet•20m ago•0 comments

Adaptive Agentic Worms Are Here

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/fpLDjKg3ej49beqTC/adaptive-agentic-worms-are-here
1•gmays•21m ago•0 comments

Anthropic joins AI's natural gas frenzy, buys $3.4B worth of turbines

https://techcrunch.com/2026/11/09/anthropic-joins-ais-natural-gas-frenzy-buys-3-4b-worth-of-turbi...
1•jomon003•21m ago•1 comments

Apple Store Subscription Sign-Up Controversy Exposed

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/11/08/apple-store-subscription-controversy/
2•ksec•23m ago•0 comments

Winsight: Transparent security suite for Windows, in the spirit of Objective-See

https://github.com/ClementG91/winsight
1•philonoist•23m ago•0 comments

Project Lighthouse

https://github.com/professorsolderin/project-lighthouse
1•gslin•24m ago•1 comments

Socratic-tutor – turns an LLM into a strict personal tutor

https://github.com/janestreet/agent_skills
1•vpj•25m ago•0 comments

Discuss: America Should Unleash Cyber Privateers

https://www.realcleardefense.com/cyber-warfare/articles/america-should-unleash-cyber-privateers-2...
2•Gaishan•26m ago•0 comments

FlashStates Unlocking Flexible Hybrid State Management for Agentic LLM Inference

https://flashstates.ai/
1•matt_d•28m ago•0 comments

Autonomous AI Agents Conduct End-to-End Research with Human Participants

https://advanced.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/advs.76675
1•Gaishan•28m ago•0 comments

Land: Using Determinstic methods for faster CI and merging

https://useland.dev/
1•rohanucla•32m ago•0 comments

OSS devtool seed stage startup looking to hire DevRel In SF

1•rohankhameshra•34m ago•2 comments

Factors in Choosing WebRTC vs. HLS

https://www.red5.net/blog/5-factors-in-choosing-webrtc-vs-hls/
1•mondainx•36m ago•0 comments

The Occupational Ladder: Implications for Life-Cycle Wage Dynamics

https://www.nber.org/papers/w35929
1•rohanm93•41m ago•0 comments

Make this forward pass as fast as possible

https://ianbarber.blog/2026/11/09/make-this-forward-pass-as-fast-as-possible/
2•matt_d•47m ago•0 comments

All your clusters. One workspace. – Kite

https://kitehq.dev/
1•xdasf•51m ago•0 comments

GlitchTip 7.0 Released

https://glitchtip.com/blog/2026-11-09-glitchtip-7-0-release/
1•gslin•52m ago•1 comments

CoderPad Reports a Security Breach

3•werrett•52m ago•0 comments

Blunt Banhammer Blocks Basic Bots Ballistically

https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/11/blunt-banhammer-blocks-basic-bots-ballistically/
2•jay_kyburz•53m ago•1 comments

Lumo. On Your Desktop

https://mrthp.github.io/lumo-desktop/
1•misterthp•54m ago•0 comments

Nvidia CEO Huang sued over disclosures related to suspected Chinese spy

https://www.reuters.com/world/nvidia-ceo-huang-sued-over-disclosures-related-suspected-chinese-sp...
5•theanonymousone•57m ago•0 comments

macOS-Uke: Full macOS 26.5 (25F71) on the Xiaomi Pad 7

https://github.com/iOSNJBrepo/macOS-uke
4•Teever•57m ago•0 comments

Ultorg: The User Interface for Relational Databases

https://www.ultorg.com/
2•Ivoah•58m ago•0 comments

Implant Zaps Excess Sugar Directly from Blood

https://spectrum.ieee.org/type-2-diabetes-electroceutical-implant
2•pseudolus•1h ago•1 comments

Google's #1 result for a popular emulator is a site serving a malware exe of it

https://github.com/zortos293/Lichii/issues/545
2•bsears•1h ago•0 comments

The Red Queen hypothesis – a new way forward for self-improving AI

https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/news/2026/07-21-red-queen-hypothesis/
3•geox•1h ago•1 comments

Anthropic put GPU kernel optimization under Safeguards with hacking and biology

https://twitter.com/superalesha/status/2119911942227959883
4•rzk•1h ago•0 comments