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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•1y ago

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tocs3•1y ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

Just Bury Your Trash

https://worksinprogress.co/issue/just-bury-your-trash/
1•barry-cotter•5m ago•0 comments

Amazon, Synopsys to cut more than 275 Bay Area tech jobs

https://www.sfchronicle.com/tech/article/amazon-synopsys-tech-layoffs-22413103.php
1•vismit2000•7m ago•0 comments

VRML Virtual Reality Modeling Language (1995)

https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/VRML/
1•sssilver•9m ago•0 comments

New Jersey eases restrictions on residential solar panels

https://gothamist.com/news/a-whole-new-world-new-jersey-eases-restrictions-on-residential-solar-p...
2•geox•14m ago•0 comments

Back to Focus: a macOS app that nudges you when you drift

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/back-to-focus/id6802041602?mt=12
1•suyogedth•15m ago•0 comments

The Emergent Symbolic Structure of Artificial Neural Networks

https://arxiv.org/abs/2608.29530
1•schmuhblaster•19m ago•0 comments

A one-second timer in a closed modem binary was capping my ISP at 14.4k

https://dialup.litenet.tel/research/v34-modem/
1•szeremeta•20m ago•0 comments

"Enshittification" Isn't Real

https://www.a16z.news/p/enshittification-isnt-real
2•kwar13•23m ago•0 comments

M-DISC – DVD/Blu-ray compatible discs that may last up to 1000 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC
2•gurjeet•25m ago•0 comments

Shingles vaccine linked to lower risk of heart attack and stroke, study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/aug/26/shingles-vaccine-lower-risk-heart-attack-stroke-s...
2•croes•27m ago•0 comments

Serious Confession to Make

https://substack.com/profile/546269798-taha/note/c-327816410
2•nomoreklueless•30m ago•0 comments

GeoJSON Map Viewer

https://tools.simonwillison.net/geojson
1•vismit2000•33m ago•0 comments

The first signs of dark matter particles may have been spotted

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2587086-the-first-signs-of-dark-matter-particles-may-finally...
2•acjohnson55•33m ago•0 comments

WebFPGA

https://webfpga.io/
13•gurjeet•40m ago•3 comments

Games look real now. We're in the future

https://twitter.com/r00t404t/status/2094871766304751799
3•razodactyl•40m ago•1 comments

Yume – A game launcher for PC and emulators

https://komorebidesigns.dev/
3•DevRen•41m ago•2 comments

FixMonorepo – Fix a monorepo by splitting it into single-file repos

https://github.com/twigg-vc/fixmonorepo
1•andrebianchessi•44m ago•1 comments

mst3k-anything

https://github.com/jgbrwn/mst3k-anything
1•indigodaddy•46m ago•0 comments

How is AWS console so broken?

1•anuptalwalkar•49m ago•1 comments

Testing Grok 4.6's Enhanced Biology Safeguards

https://blog.latch.bio/p/analyzing-grok46-safeguards
2•fourfire•53m ago•0 comments

Shopify's agent-commerce category filter didn't filter on any of 190 stores

https://shelfglance.com/research/ucp-category-filter
1•BruceM2007•56m ago•0 comments

Conduct react interviews with a shared coding workspace

https://www.reactpair.com/
1•vijayst•57m ago•0 comments

Huawei Became China's Nvidia [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbq4wrZn-DI
1•deterministic•58m ago•0 comments

B.C. boaters warned to avoid mysterious floating island

https://cheknews.ca/b-c-boaters-warned-to-avoid-mysterious-floating-island-1345202/
2•ehxor•1h ago•0 comments

XGBoost from Scratch

https://randomrealizations.com/posts/xgboost-from-scratch/
3•auraham•1h ago•0 comments

High-performance lossless floating-point compression in pure Rust

https://crates.io/crates/fastalp
2•rmw-link•1h ago•0 comments

Contest announcement – Build on BareMetal Cloud Sep 7-20

https://returninfinity.com/blog/sep2026-build-on-baremetal-contest
1•varunmadhokRetI•1h ago•1 comments

OpenRCT on GitHub Pages

https://atapifire.github.io/OpenRCT2-Web/
1•websim_api•1h ago•0 comments

Another Tesla on Autopilot Stopped on Freeway, Driver Died: Report

https://gizmodo.com/another-telsa-on-autopilot-stopped-on-freeway-driver-died-report-2000805742
4•kamaraju•1h ago•4 comments

AI Made Writing Code Free. It Made Reading Code Expensive

https://medium.com/c-sharp-programming/ai-made-writing-code-free-it-made-reading-code-expensive-e...
2•sukhpinder0804•1h ago•0 comments