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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•8mo ago

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tocs3•8mo ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

This cute AI-generated schoolgirl is a growing far-right meme

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/31/uk/amelia-meme-ai-far-right-intl-scli
1•breve•1m ago•0 comments

Show HN: New CLI tool to count tokens locally

https://github.com/zahidcakici/tokenizer-cli
2•zahidcakici•2m ago•0 comments

Praxis Nation

https://www.praxisnation.com/
1•xg15•5m ago•0 comments

The Perry Bible Fellowship

https://pbfcomics.com/
2•the-mitr•6m ago•0 comments

Automatic Programming

https://antirez.com/news/159
2•dvrp•6m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Qeek – Go Deep‑Learning Framework with Tensors, AutoGrad and CUDA

https://github.com/sahandsafizadeh/qeep
1•avestura•8m ago•0 comments

The Most Important Code Is the Code No One Owns

https://techyall.com/blog/the-most-important-code-is-the-code-no-one-owns
1•birdculture•10m ago•0 comments

PlaybackStats: Private YouTube Viewing Stats Without Account or Tracking

https://playbackstats.com
1•ashing•10m ago•0 comments

Remove your Ex from your feed

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1•Vishal_18•16m ago•0 comments

CERN accepts $1B in private cash towards Future Circular Collider

https://physicsworld.com/a/cern-accepts-1bn-in-private-cash-towards-future-circular-collider/
5•zeristor•19m ago•1 comments

The Cities Church Minneapolis...

https://www.citieschurch.com
1•GreenSalem•21m ago•0 comments

CloudNativePG's missing logical layer: Manage Postgres via a K8s Operator

https://github.com/aboutbits/postgresql-operator
1•thosap•21m ago•0 comments

Microsoft stock plunges as Wall Street questions AI investments

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2026/1/29/microsoft-stock-plunges-as-wall-street-questions-ai-i...
1•latexr•22m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Blink – Native macOS code snippet manager. Local, offline, <1s search

https://www.enclyralabs.com/
2•enclyra•22m ago•0 comments

Leni Riefenstahl made documentaries for Hitler

https://www.npr.org/2025/09/08/nx-s1-5526066/leni-riefenstahl-nazi-filmmaker-new-documentary
1•GreenSalem•24m ago•0 comments

Looking for someone to take over / acquire an early AI infra product (Rayrift)

1•hari_prasadd•24m ago•0 comments

Stripe's New Landing Page

https://stripe.com/
1•guzik•25m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What do you think about AI oppurtunities and its side hustle

1•SRMohitkr•28m ago•1 comments

Free Monthly budget and wealth tracking (Indian context, built for my own use)

https://icorpus.vercel.app
1•mathan_karthik•31m ago•0 comments

Epstein Notes Suggested Bill Gates Engaged in Extramarital Sex

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/30/us/bill-gates-epstein.html
4•throwfaraway135•31m ago•3 comments

Yann LeCun–Linked Startup Charts a New Path to AGI

https://www.wired.com/story/logical-intelligence-yann-lecun-startup-chart-new-course-agi/
1•helloplanets•33m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Gwt – conflictless AI sessions in parallel (terminal)

https://github.com/slowestmonkey/gwt
2•slowmonkey•33m ago•0 comments

MessageBird: The SMS provider that can't send the SMS you need to log in

https://twitter.com/w3Nicolas/status/2017526571666407674
3•nicbvs•34m ago•0 comments

Multi-LLM Development Framework – Structure for AI-Assisted Development

https://github.com/thomas-jamet/Multi-LLM-Development-Framework
1•thomas-jamet•34m ago•1 comments

Stabilizing `if let` in match guards in Rust

https://kivooeo.github.io/blog/if-let-guard/
1•fanf2•35m ago•0 comments

Font design (on my Nintendo DS) [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVSiQhopWnI
1•Antibabelic•36m ago•0 comments

Tesla introduces US-manufactured solar panels, completing home energy ecosystem

https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2026/01/29/tesla-introduces-u-s-manufactured-panels-completing-home-e...
1•alecco•36m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Why doesn't download default to upload origin?

1•mathematicum•37m ago•0 comments

Profiling in production with function call traces

https://yosefk.com/blog/profiling-in-production-with-function-call-traces.html
1•signa11•37m ago•0 comments

OpenVMS 9.2-3 x64 now has local console on OPA0

https://virtuallyfun.com/2026/01/31/openvms-9-2-3-x64-now-has-local-console-on-opa0/
1•jandeboevrie•42m ago•0 comments