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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•10mo ago

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tocs3•10mo ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

Did Anyone Predict the Industrial Revolution?

https://lostfutures.substack.com/p/did-anyone-predict-the-industrial
1•paulpauper•3m ago•0 comments

Japan to require language proficiency proof for engineer, specialist visa

https://english.kyodonews.net/articles/-/73562
1•totetsu•4m ago•0 comments

Electricity Price Hub

https://electricity.heatmap.news/
1•dthread3•5m ago•1 comments

I Bought a 'GLP-3'

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2025/12/retatrutide-underground-market/685400/
1•paulpauper•10m ago•0 comments

Blind marathon runner to be guided by smart glasses

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz6732p2vpjo
1•1659447091•12m ago•0 comments

No One at Waffle House Remembers FEMA Official Who Says He Teleported In

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/us/fema-gregg-phillips-waffle-house-teleportation.html
2•jonas21•12m ago•0 comments

The Static Site's Generators

https://www.hgreer.com/StaticSiteGenerator/
1•QuadmasterXLII•22m ago•0 comments

Italy's famed Uffizi admits cyber-attack but denies security breach

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy51wzeq6g5o
2•1659447091•23m ago•0 comments

Meta and Google Trial Loss Suggests Product Design Is Big Tech's Achilles' Heel

https://www.law.com/corpcounsel/2026/04/03/meta-and-googles-trial-loss-suggests-product-design-is...
1•1vuio0pswjnm7•23m ago•0 comments

Efficient Note-Taking in Emacs with Howm

https://emacs101.github.io/howm.html
2•DASD•26m ago•0 comments

How to Containerize a V Language Application with Docker

https://oneuptime.com/blog/post/2026-02-08-how-to-containerize-a-v-language-application-with-dock...
1•baranul•27m ago•0 comments

Tokyo turns its phone booths into free Wi-Fi hotspots, and

https://soranews24.com/2026/04/02/tokyo-turns-its-phone-booths-into-free-wi-fi-hotspots-and-heres...
1•rawgabbit•31m ago•0 comments

AI agents are now playing Mafia (social deduction with humans)

https://mafiamystery.com/agents
2•ttoast•31m ago•0 comments

Hedley Combs Davis passed away

https://twitter.com/MuseumCommodore/status/2040254304582603148
2•hnthrowaway0315•32m ago•0 comments

A broken auto-live poller, and what perceived urgency does to Claude Code

https://christophermeiklejohn.com/ai/zabriskie/reliability/2026/04/03/the-feature-that-has-never-...
2•cmeiklejohn•33m ago•0 comments

Let's be Honest about AI Coding

https://kenkantzer.com/lets-be-honest-about-ai/
3•lordofmoria•35m ago•0 comments

Towards Autonomous Protocol Proofs

https://will62794.github.io/formal-methods/2026/04/03/autonomous-protocol-proofs.html
1•we6251•38m ago•0 comments

What are Artemis II astronauts eating? Tortillas, coffee, lots of hot sauce

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-are-nasas-artemis-ii-astronauts-eating-58-tortill...
1•1659447091•48m ago•0 comments

Know why you don't like OOP

https://zylinski.se/posts/know-why-you-dont-like-oop/
2•baranul•49m ago•0 comments

I built a WiFi bell system in my garage for a local school. Now used across US

https://old.reddit.com/r/SideProject/comments/1sbr7sm/i_built_a_wifi_bell_system_in_my_garage_bec...
1•thunderbong•49m ago•0 comments

I've spent 9 years on Discord. I think Fluxer is the next best option

https://nev.so/learn/why-fluxer-is-making-waves
1•Nevulo•54m ago•0 comments

Billion dollar AI company was built on lies [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A2SP-QBByI
2•shankysingh•54m ago•0 comments

DataBeat

https://federatedindustrial.com/databeat
1•ShimazuSystems•55m ago•0 comments

A Jurassic fish choked to death on a 'floating squid' 150M years ago

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/etimes/animals/how-a-jurassic-fish-choked-to-death-on-a-float...
1•WaitWaitWha•56m ago•0 comments

Use OAuth for Claude, Gemini, and Codex with Persistent Headless Tmux Sessions

https://github.com/codeninja/oauth-cli-coder
2•code_ninja•1h ago•1 comments

Show HN: MicroSafe-RL – Deterministic 1.18µs safety layer for Edge AI

https://github.com/Kretski/MicroSafe-RL
1•DREDREG•1h ago•0 comments

Open Source Reverse Proxy from NetBird Now Supports L4

https://netbird.io/knowledge-hub/l4-proxy
1•techhut•1h ago•0 comments

A visual guide to the Gulf fertiliser blockade

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/03/visual-guide-gulf-fertiliser-blockade
2•Archelaos•1h ago•0 comments

AI seed startups are commanding higher valuations

https://techcrunch.com/2026/03/31/its-not-your-imagination-ai-seed-startups-are-commanding-higher...
1•gmays•1h ago•0 comments

The Family That Decided to Have Their Stomachs Removed

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2026/03/stomach-cancer-total-gastrectomy/686623/
1•paulpauper•1h ago•0 comments