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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•1y ago

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tocs3•1y ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

Supermarket-Fridge Hacks Show Risk of Linking Everything to the Internet

https://www.wsj.com/tech/cybersecurity/supermarket-fridge-hacks-show-risk-of-linking-everything-t...
1•julienchastang•59s ago•0 comments

As budgets tighten, people are breaking out their library cards

https://www.npr.org/2026/11/05/nx-s1-5992908/libraries-and-cost-of-living
1•toomuchtodo•1m ago•0 comments

EU Targets Addictive Social Media, AI Chatbot Features in Draft Law

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-11-09/eu-plans-crackdown-on-addictive-social-media-a...
4•Signez•5m ago•0 comments

AI code review has the order backwards

https://pullboard.dev/dispatches/1/the-bar-comes-first/
1•Olscore•5m ago•0 comments

Working with Excel

https://www.etl-tools.com/articles/excel-automation.html
1•etl-tools•5m ago•0 comments

Nuclear button Benchmark: I gave five AIs the nuclear button

https://samuelfitoussi.com/posts/nuclear-button-benchmark
1•adev_•5m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Warden MCP, an MCP server for agents to quote and trade onchain

https://wardenprotocol.org/mcp
1•becometa•5m ago•0 comments

Signs You're Working in a Feature Factory (2016)

https://cutle.fish/blog/12-signs-youre-working-in-a-feature-factory/
1•Seattle3503•6m ago•0 comments

We shrank DSV4-Pro by 24%, within 0.5pt of original on MMLU – Tileward

https://tileward.com/research/a-smaller-deepseek-v4-pro/
1•apsharma•7m ago•0 comments

New jobs in 140 years of data: Why the AI displacement fear is overstated

https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/new-jobs-140-years-data-why-ai-displacement-fear-overstated-and-wh...
1•yogthos•7m ago•0 comments

C# 15: Union Types, Closed Hierarchies, and the Unique One Value

https://cekrem.github.io/posts/csharp-15-union-types/
1•birdculture•7m ago•0 comments

How A.I. Just Blew Up a Key Tenet of Computer Science

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/06/science/ai-exponential-time-hypothesis.html
1•bookofjoe•8m ago•1 comments

difflib

https://docs.python.org/3/library/difflib.html
1•gregsadetsky•8m ago•0 comments

Cruise ship pianist rescued from sea after nine hours in Pacific Ocean

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ck1wvrrgln13o
2•saikatsg•9m ago•0 comments

French officials suspect Iran is behind refrigerator hacks, sources say

https://www.reuters.com/world/french-officials-suspect-iran-is-behind-refrigerator-hacks-sources-...
2•tartoran•9m ago•0 comments

More than 400k Russians killed fighting in Ukraine war, leaked data suggests

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/nov/09/russians-killed-ukraine-war-leaked-data
4•ljf•10m ago•0 comments

Commerce Dept Inquiry into Megaspeed Halted After Nvdia Intervention

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/09/business/economy/nvidia-megaspeed-investigation-huang.html
2•louiereederson•11m ago•0 comments

AI R&D Is Accelerating Towards Potential RSI in 2027

https://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-r-and-d-is-accelerating-towards
1•yewenjie•12m ago•0 comments

Teaching and Old Dog New Tricks

https://rozumem.xyz/posts/21/teaching-an-old-dog-new-tricks
1•rozumem•13m ago•0 comments

Show HN: No, *really* show them. What'd you commit in 2026?

https://0gsd.github.io/repo-shipped/
1•0gs•14m ago•1 comments

Good Enough for a Tuesday Night

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/good-enough-for-a-tuesday-night
2•Michelangelo11•17m ago•0 comments

Do AI coding agents care about SemVer or is it something for humans only?

https://developer.microsoft.com/blog/do-ai-coding-agents-care-about-semver/
1•waldekm•18m ago•0 comments

TOKENME.txt – Decoupling declarative codebase state from AGENTS.md

https://github.com/endean-eng/tokenme
1•endean-eng•18m ago•0 comments

Two Dimensional Version Control

https://www.redblobgames.com/blog/2026-09-27-jujutsu-experience/
2•ibobev•19m ago•0 comments

Castration extends life span, but in a surprising way, mouse study suggests

https://www.science.org/content/article/castration-extends-life-span-surprising-way-mouse-study-s...
2•amelius•19m ago•0 comments

Reverse engineering a vintage diode-transistor logic chip

https://www.righto.com/2026/11/signetics-st680a-dtl-nand.html
3•ibobev•20m ago•1 comments

Payments Canada announces launch of Canada's Real-Time Rail (RTR) payment system

https://globalnews.ca/news/12142666/real-time-rail-payments-canada/
5•ocd•20m ago•1 comments

Do programmers dream of electric poems? (2021)

https://olano.dev/blog/do-programmers-dream-of-electronic-poems/
1•facundo_olano•22m ago•0 comments

SoundCraft: An open-source, clean-room digital audio workstation in pure Rust

https://github.com/storytold/soundcraft
3•nedrylandJP•22m ago•0 comments

XDG Base Directory Specification

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir/latest/#index
1•thisisauserid•26m ago•0 comments