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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•8mo ago

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tocs3•8mo ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

Colorado Authorities Confirm Suicide by Hunter S. Thompson

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/23/us/hunter-s-thompson-suicide.html
1•jMyles•2m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Statutory – a Turing-complete language in 17th-century legal English

https://github.com/scordata/statutory
1•scordata•3m ago•0 comments

Otary – A Python library for image and geometry

https://alexandrepoupeau.com/otary/
1•poupeaua•3m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Python lib and Java CLI tool to read/write Screaming Frog config files

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1•am-seo•6m ago•0 comments

Pending Termination Notice for my app

https://old.reddit.com/r/iOSProgramming/comments/1qigdq1/pending_termination_notice_for_my_app/
1•wahnfrieden•6m ago•0 comments

The MingKwai Experiment: Typing Chinese Before Computers

https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1018129
1•sohkamyung•7m ago•0 comments

Waymo caught passing stopped school buses 20 times in Austin alone

https://techcrunch.com/2026/01/23/waymo-probed-by-national-transportation-safety-board-over-illeg...
3•doener•8m ago•0 comments

Russia Liquidates 71% of Its Gold Reserves to Finance War Effort

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russia-liquidates-71-of-its-gold-reserves-to-finance-war-ef...
1•doener•9m ago•0 comments

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3•jerr12939•11m ago•0 comments

OpenAI site errors are now generated by AI

https://openai.com/careers/software-engineer-codex-runtime-san-francisco/
2•behnamoh•13m ago•1 comments

Ask HN: Who can invite me to lobster.rs?

1•DenisDolya•13m ago•2 comments

Chemical weapons used on protestors in Iran

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601235991
1•ukblewis•14m ago•1 comments

Shamir's Secret Sharing Explained (For Normal People)

https://www.deadhandprotocol.com/blog/shamirs-secret-sharing-explained
1•maxcomperatore•15m ago•0 comments

The First Eighteen Lines of the Waste Land (1989)

https://yalereview.org/article/hecht-eliot-waste-land
2•benbreen•20m ago•0 comments

Trendshift Stats – GitHub language trends across 20k+ curated repositories

https://trendshift.io/stats
1•Hylasca•22m ago•1 comments

ROS2 Robotics 2026: Jetson Nano or Raspberry Pi 5 Kit?

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1•chfritz•23m ago•0 comments

HN: ReguAction – Turn regulatory URLs into actionable compliance plans

https://apify.com/brazen_vanguard/reguaction-ai-compliance-regulation-analyst
1•founder_mode•25m ago•1 comments

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1•ashe_mag•25m ago•0 comments

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1•brandonb•26m ago•0 comments

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2•sberens•27m ago•0 comments

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2•olliepro•28m ago•2 comments

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2•nirvanist•31m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: B2B or B2C?

1•eyalhadad•32m ago•1 comments

The Slow Death of Productivity: Why Time.sleep() Is Killing Your Automation

https://pypi.org/project/nano-wait/
1•LuizSeabra•34m ago•2 comments

Show HN: Collecting AI Developer Tools

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1•fullofdev•34m ago•0 comments

Proposal: Generic Methods for Go

https://github.com/golang/go/issues/77273
1•pansa2•35m ago•0 comments

'Organized syndicates' fraudulently access health records, lawsuit says

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2026/01/22/electronic-health-record-fraud-lawsuit/
1•bookofjoe•35m ago•1 comments

JWT authentication bypass in HarbourJwt via "unknown alg"

https://pentesterlab.com/blog/cve-2026-23993-harbourjwt-unknown-alg-jwt-bypass
1•mooreds•38m ago•0 comments

Justice Department Opens Criminal Probe into Silicon Valley Spy Allegations

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/justice-department-opens-criminal-probe-into-silicon-valley-spy-a...
2•nradov•39m ago•0 comments

Results from the 2025 Go Developer Survey

https://go.dev/blog/survey2025
3•mooreds•40m ago•0 comments