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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•1y ago

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tocs3•1y ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

AWS Lambda Introduces MicroVMs

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/run-isolated-sandboxes-with-full-lifecycle-control-aws-lambda-in...
1•root-parent•1m ago•0 comments

Global NAND Memory Market Share: Quarterly

https://counterpointresearch.com/en/insights/global-nand-memory-market-share
1•ksec•1m ago•0 comments

Scott Hanselman (VP at Microsoft/GitHub) just starred my project on GitHub

1•iliashad•1m ago•0 comments

Advertise in ChatGPT

https://ads.openai.com/
1•tosh•3m ago•0 comments

Riding Technology Waves

https://staysaasy.com/strategy/2026/06/22/riding-technology-waves.html
1•kiyanwang•3m ago•0 comments

Young Cornish people are turning to campervans to have a roof over their heads

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jun/25/reality-life-cornwall-young-van-dwellers-pric...
1•root-parent•3m ago•0 comments

Microsoft admits 8GB RAM is fine for Windows 11, after years of pushing 16GB

https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/06/25/microsoft-now-says-8gb-ram-is-fine-for-everyday-use-righ...
3•ksec•5m ago•0 comments

Helmholtz AI: Democratising AI for a data-driven future

https://www.helmholtz.ai/
1•the-mitr•12m ago•0 comments

Looking Back at the 'Fosse/Verdon' Dancing Legends That Inspired FX Series

https://variety.com/2019/vintage/features/bob-fosse-gwen-verdon-1203185015/
1•firasd•12m ago•0 comments

Bill Gates says Epstein sought to blackmail him over extramarital affairs

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/24/bill-gates-epstein-transcript
1•root-parent•15m ago•0 comments

Shelf: Save Links to Telegram

https://useshelf.dev/
1•hisamafahri•20m ago•0 comments

The netdna-ssl.com takeover is an attack waiting to happen

https://scotthelme.co.uk/a-dead-cdn-a-wildcard-and-an-attack-waiting-to-happen-the-netdna-ssl-com...
2•moebrowne•21m ago•0 comments

Remote Pi

https://remote-pi.jacobmoura.work/
1•deepdude•22m ago•0 comments

The weirdest things a leak revealed about Peter Thiel's club

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/24/peter-thiel-secret-club-leak
4•robtherobber•26m ago•0 comments

Bringing Swift to the Apple ][

https://yeokhengmeng.com/2026/06/swift-on-apple-ii/
4•LucidLynx•31m ago•0 comments

Stanford's Fraud Pipeline [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57-OZSXGcxA
2•onemoresoop•32m ago•0 comments

I fed the people building the metaverse

https://yeastconfections.substack.com/p/i-fed-the-people-building-the-metaverse
2•faldor20•38m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Playable City Intelligence

https://golb.fun/
1•nih567•38m ago•0 comments

OXWM – A dynamic window manager written in Zig

https://github.com/tonybanters/oxwm
2•modinfo•38m ago•0 comments

Real-world impact of AI adoption. "Acceleration whiplash"

https://www.faros.ai/blog/ai-acceleration-whiplash-takeaways
1•ARayOutOfBounds•40m ago•0 comments

Mad Fucking Witches

https://www.mfw.org.au/
8•Alien1Being•40m ago•2 comments

W Social, Fictional Metrics and the Beauty of Open Data

https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-fictional-metrics-and-the-beauty-of-open-data/
1•nemoniac•41m ago•0 comments

New EV-makers keep appearing in China

https://www.economist.com/business/2026/06/24/strange-new-ev-makers-keep-appearing-in-china
2•edward•42m ago•0 comments

Show HN: iNaturalist Bingo

https://kylenessen.github.io/iNaturalist-Bingo-App/
1•kylenessen•42m ago•0 comments

Aura Max Your Startup

https://gtmgame.ai/
1•Jaredwk•44m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Annalium – a world-history map and timeline in the browser

https://annalium.com
1•i18nagentai•45m ago•0 comments

ROCm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROCm
1•tosh•48m ago•0 comments

I cut GTA Online loading times by 70% (2021)

https://nee.lv/2021/02/28/How-I-cut-GTA-Online-loading-times-by-70/
1•downbad_•48m ago•0 comments

How to Destroy the Earth (2003)

https://qntm.org/destroy
2•downbad_•48m ago•0 comments

Pesticide exposure may relate to colorectal cancer in younger adults

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/pesticide-exposure-linked-colorectal-cancer-younger-adults
3•akyuu•49m ago•0 comments