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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•1y ago

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tocs3•1y ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

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1•gwintrob•23s ago•0 comments

Security Engineering: The Craft Has Changed

https://alexanderschroll.com/blog/the-craft-has-changed/
1•smurda•1m ago•0 comments

I Tested AI Agents for Everyday Work – These Are the Only Ones Worth Using

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1•mgh2•3m ago•0 comments

'Robots building robots': a 10k unit industrial humanoid robot smart factory

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202609/1370528.shtml
1•yogthos•4m ago•0 comments

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2•berkeleyjunk•5m ago•0 comments

Show HN: DeadLock OS – A Linux terminal puzzle game

https://www.crazygames.com/game/deadlock-os-cvg
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A free website for your business, written by your Google reviews

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Transitioning from GUI driven development to AI agent driven development

https://stevechikwiri.substack.com/p/changing-mind-frames-from-building
1•zikani_03•8m ago•0 comments

No Big Deal – is this how AI ends humanity, with a sitcom so bad it bores you?

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3•billybuckwheat•8m ago•0 comments

A Vision of a Future Where Machines Fight Wars

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2•EA-3167•9m ago•0 comments

I asked Claude to build AI generator on my own hardware

https://easypeasyvideo.com
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2•bryanrasmussen•13m ago•1 comments

Pnpm Python Dependencies

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouNVGP7t0g0
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Voice Acting Arena [Laion]

https://laion.ai/notes/voice-acting-arena/
1•mrfakename•15m ago•0 comments

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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/12/opinion/ai-software-coding-apps.html
4•bookofjoe•18m ago•1 comments

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1•ibobev•18m ago•0 comments

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1•gmays•18m ago•0 comments

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1•sph130•20m ago•0 comments

For those into GenAI entertainment, I am excited about this hackathon

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Claude Roulette – chat with strangers while you slop

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1•tjohnell•23m ago•0 comments

GM's New V8 Trucks Ditch Oil Dipstick for Digital Gauge

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What if social media isn't hurting kids?

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3•pavel_lishin•27m ago•0 comments

Local LLM engine where a tool call cut by the token limit still parses

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2•JoakimPalm-Zen•29m ago•0 comments

BAK/SPC

https://bak.spc.org/index.cgi
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Aqueduct Water Risk Atlas

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4•handfuloflight•30m ago•0 comments

AI's Real Impact in Telecom: takeaways from a recent panel discussion

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A call for a pause – Vivek Srikumar

https://svivek.com/writing/2026-09-13-a-call-for-a-pause.html
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Iroh on Rp2350

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3•karissa•33m ago•0 comments