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Europe has lots of pleasant cities but too few that matter

https://economist.com/europe/2026/10/15/europe-has-lots-of-pleasant-cities-but-too-few-that-matter
1•andsoitis•50s ago•0 comments

Rising Stars Need a Witness

https://www.indiethinkers.com/essays/the-cosigns-you-dont-ask-for
1•danielkhunter•1m ago•0 comments

Parallel Language Models via Variational Decoding

https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.26693
1•E-Reverance•1m ago•0 comments

No More Icons in Every Menu by Default

https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2026/icons-in-every-menu/
2•riffraff•4m ago•0 comments

Terence Tao and Yu Deng: Why We Build Open Math Model

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjeCcDkuyao
3•doppp•6m ago•0 comments

Telehack

https://telehack.com/
1•jljljl•7m ago•0 comments

The Permanent Voice Vault

https://satire.worldbibliotech.com/
1•book-collective•7m ago•0 comments

Clang Bytecode interpreter update 2026

https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2026/10/19/clang-bytecode-interpreter-update-2026
1•tbaeder•10m ago•0 comments

Inside Prometheus: Meta's Journey to a Gigawatt-Scale Supercluster

https://engineering.fb.com/2026/10/19/data-center-engineering/inside-prometheus-meta-gigawatt-sca...
1•jonbaer•11m ago•0 comments

Managing projects with GNU Make, 3.xth Edition

https://wanderinghorse.net/computing/make/
1•seeg•11m ago•0 comments

SKY‑001 ] the First Engineering World Model

https://skyfall.ai/sky-001
1•doener•12m ago•0 comments

Mastodon 5.0: A Closer Look

https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/10/5.0-a-closer-look/
1•riffraff•14m ago•0 comments

ThinkPad I9990303 Error Catch-22

http://www.os2museum.com/wp/thinkpad-i9990303-error-catch-22/
1•userbinator•15m ago•0 comments

IBM Anderon Quantum Foundry Automates Qubit Fabs

https://spectrum.ieee.org/anderon-quantum-fab
1•gmays•15m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What's your SSH terminal workflow like?

1•otherayden•21m ago•1 comments

Show HN: VM 9.0.0, a mail reader for Emacs

https://gitlab.com/emacs-vm/vm
1•diekhans•21m ago•0 comments

Supreme Court agrees to review ban on distilling spirits in private homes

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-distilling-spirits-reconstruction-ban-51131151865ded8609...
1•geox•24m ago•0 comments

About $1B of training compute is shared for free on the Hugging Face Hub

https://thomwolf-hub-dollars.static.hf.space/index.html
1•handfuloflight•25m ago•0 comments

U.S. Supreme Court to review 1868 federal ban on home distilling of liquor

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2026/10/19/breaking-news/u-s-supreme-court-to-review-1868-federal-...
2•Jimmc414•29m ago•0 comments

A Forgotten 1980 Reversible Computer, and the AI That Just Cut Quantum Costs 17x

https://x.com/BrianRoemmele/article/2112202286441374119
1•pcvarmint•29m ago•0 comments

Privacy Badger for Safari on macOS

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/privacy-badger/id6761143693?mt=12
2•Jiahang•36m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Rouler – Steer Windows traffic per app or IP across multiple interfaces

https://rouler.io/
1•brndnbuilds•39m ago•0 comments

AWS CFO joked about the financial toll of AI. An internal recording reveals why

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-220-billion-ai-bet-data-centers-spending-challenges-2026-10
2•ihuman•42m ago•1 comments

The AfD leak site's emails shows nazism from party members

https://twitter.com/intcyberdigest/status/2112131117826359749
2•doener•42m ago•0 comments

Pixel: Build Graphical Applications in the Terminal

https://pixelgui.com/
1•handfuloflight•43m ago•1 comments

Should agent-memory benchmarks test stale information?

https://agentmemories.ai/home
1•MemoryEnthusias•45m ago•0 comments

Show HN: An Open Source Aircraft

https://adampaigge.github.io/openplane/
1•adampaigge•45m ago•0 comments

Refuseless: Open and Abliterated LLMs

https://refuseless.com
2•handfuloflight•46m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Don't Get Nerf'd by Document Processing

https://extract.nerfguard.com
1•jonappleseed22•48m ago•0 comments

Show HN: AML CYCLE 2, a benchmark for long-term agent memory

https://x.com/AgentMemoryL
1•IreneAI•52m ago•0 comments
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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•1y ago

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tocs3•1y ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."