frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•1y ago

Comments

tocs3•1y ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

Show HN: Do-over, undo for AI agent shell commands

https://github.com/CaydenChik/doover
1•Cayden27•4m ago•0 comments

Flock Has a Powerful New AI Tool for Police. We Got Its Code

https://www.wired.com/story/flock-safety-os-investigate/
1•divbzero•6m ago•0 comments

AI is changing how we code. Is this positive?

1•simondukr•9m ago•0 comments

Contract for difference

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_for_difference
1•petethomas•9m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: When will the AI bubble burst and eradicate all life in the planet?

2•roschdal•9m ago•1 comments

Keycloak unauthenticated account takeover via reset-credentials flow bypass

https://github.com/keycloak/keycloak/issues/51833
1•4mnt•9m ago•0 comments

AI Is Changing How We Hac

1•simondukr•10m ago•0 comments

Agarwood

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agarwood
2•teleforce•12m ago•0 comments

PgDog is 2x faster than RDS Proxy

https://pgdog.dev/blog/pgdog-vs-rds-proxy
1•levkk•18m ago•0 comments

Vibe Coder – A Parody of Downfall

https://twitter.com/amitranjan/status/2090011590150287837
2•vismit2000•21m ago•0 comments

Ways to Smuggle SQLite into Nix

https://fzakaria.com/2026/08/19/three-ways-to-smuggle-sqlite-into-nix
1•ingve•23m ago•0 comments

NASA's Attempt to Save the Swift Telescope Has Failed

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/19/science/nasa-swift-telescope-failed-rescue.html
2•greenburger•23m ago•0 comments

Jason Arday's Final Self-Delusion

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/08/jason-arday-death-lies-delusion/688311/
3•pabo•24m ago•0 comments

Why the Future Doesn't Need Us (2000)

https://www.wired.com/2000/04/joy-2/
2•naves•26m ago•0 comments

LLM Reasoning Traces Are Not Audit Records

https://rye.ai/blog/cot-faithfulness-reasoning-traces-not-audit-logs/
1•wakahiu•26m ago•1 comments

Windows brings out the Rorschach test in everyone

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20030825-00/?p=42803
3•luu•29m ago•0 comments

Rising number of people seeking ADHD diagnosis without treatment, say experts

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/aug/18/great-adhd-myth-rising-diagnosis-without-treatment
3•theanonymousone•33m ago•0 comments

The data center fight is heating up

https://www.axios.com/2026/08/19/ai-power-data-center-electricity-construction
6•1vuio0pswjnm7•42m ago•1 comments

The tests your agent writes defend the code it saw. Bugs included

4•Marvin_RunAI•43m ago•0 comments

Cuisenaire Rods

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisenaire_rods
3•tosh•44m ago•0 comments

Old.reddit.com is now login only

5•denvrede•45m ago•4 comments

Seoul to cover all sidewalks with shade by 2028 to combat heat waves

https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20260819007000315
6•riffraff•46m ago•0 comments

Wrapping C libraries in Nim (2023)

https://peterme.net/wrapping-c-libraries-in-nim.html
2•erikschoster•46m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Rove – parallel coding agents that can fan out subtasks and report back

https://github.com/Sma1lboy/rove
1•zhallen_work•48m ago•0 comments

Asana cleared 5 years of engineering work in 2 weeks with Codex

https://openai.com/index/asana/
28•tosh•52m ago•46 comments

Why Every Receipt in Taiwan Is a Lottery Ticket [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1EVk7k9S7Q
3•dataflow•52m ago•0 comments

My Grandfather's Career Took Off at 58

https://kejiakejia.substack.com/p/my-grandfathers-career-took-off-at
17•jamarna•52m ago•2 comments

Samsung hikes chipmaking prices by up to 15% for new orders, on demand spike

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/samsung-hikes-chipmaking-prices-by-up-15-de...
4•giuliomagnifico•53m ago•0 comments

Show HN: I fixed a dead Bitcoin ASIC and made a foundry that engraves your words

https://strikeablock.com/
1•laksgandikota•54m ago•0 comments

ChessIQ – training positional evaluation instead of just finding tactics

https://chessiqapp.com/
1•VyomJ•56m ago•0 comments