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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•1y ago

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tocs3•1y ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

Israeli settlers attack European diplomats, beat French mayor

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/israeli-settlers-attack-european-diplomats-beat-french-mayo...
2•Markoff•31s ago•0 comments

macOS 15.8.2 Breaks OpenGL

https://developer.apple.com/forums/verify-human/verify.html?next=/forums/thread/850550
1•Audiophilip•48s ago•0 comments

Show HN: AI Zombie Trend–Generating multi-shot narrative videos from two photos

https://aizombietrend.online/
1•dawn3727•1m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Secret Guard – a local LLM gateway; keys never leave your machine

https://github.com/luochen1990/secret-guard
1•luochen1990•2m ago•0 comments

Snow Leopard Was Peak Computer

https://www.alara.blog/snow-leopard-was-peak-computer/
1•asaddhamani•4m ago•0 comments

Galileo: History and Myth

https://historyforatheists.com/2026/10/galileo-history-and-myth/
1•throw0101a•4m ago•0 comments

Built a task tracker for teams that hate project management

https://turtletask.app/
1•james_mcavoy•4m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Gecit, share a Windows PC's keyboard and mouse with a Mac over QUIC

https://kasparovabi.github.io/gecit/
1•kasparovabi•5m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Wisp – a voice AI on your shoulder, with spatial audio in the browser

https://wispplayer.com/?tab=ai
1•Serg75•8m ago•0 comments

Study shows cannabis is not associated with better sleep quality

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2026/10/think-cannabis-helps-you-sleep-better-think-again
2•gmays•9m ago•1 comments

Trust in Depth: Giving agents more autonomy without losing control

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/machine-learning/trust-in-depth-giving-agents-more-autonomy-without-...
1•burcsahinoglu•10m ago•0 comments

Show HN: BricksChat – Generate Lego builds from images, including Technic

https://brickschat.com/
2•mireklzicar•13m ago•0 comments

Omarchy Gets the Web Browser Launching Faster by Avoiding XDG Overhead

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Omarchy-Faster-Web-Browser
1•mikece•13m ago•0 comments

Negotiation tips for people who hate negotiating

https://coached.com/essays/negotiation-tips-for-people-who-hate-negotiating/
1•rohanm93•13m ago•0 comments

Why we decided to open source Relate

https://viablesystems.ai/writing/why-we-decided-to-open-source-relate
1•dennisy•14m ago•1 comments

Aligning a Personal Site with Indieweb and Web Standards

https://htsh.pl/blog/web-standards-audit/
1•jruohonen•15m ago•0 comments

GhostOS – Lightweight, Offline Desktop AI Assistant (macOS/Win/Linux)

https://github.com/GhostOS-ai/GhostOS
1•GhostOS•18m ago•0 comments

Gnome OS Preview

https://blogs.gnome.org/adrianvovk/2026/10/16/gnome-os-preview/
1•leephillips•18m ago•0 comments

A house on the internet that feels like home

https://cozywww.com/
1•jruohonen•19m ago•0 comments

Metas smart glasses record conversations without the wake phrase, company admits

https://www.techspot.com/news/114214-meta-smart-glasses-secretly-recording-conversations-without-...
3•randycupertino•22m ago•1 comments

Will it be a golden age or a dark age for mathematics (and science)?

https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2026/10/18/will-it-be-a-golden-age-or-a-dark-age-for-mathematics-a...
17•smilelamp•26m ago•9 comments

Websites are closing their doors to AI agents

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1013195/ai-agents-blocked-web
24•evolve2k•28m ago•15 comments

Visual test failed. Is it the page or the capture?

https://skills.seu.pet/blog/visual-tests-that-lie
1•samuelfmedeiros•30m ago•0 comments

ChatGPT Dot Review: Your Chief of Staff Is Still an Intern

https://metedata.substack.com/p/chatgpt-dot-review-your-chief-of
1•young_mete•30m ago•0 comments

Staying off the hot path

https://davide.im/posts/hot-path/
1•vector3•31m ago•0 comments

RentAHuman

https://english.elpais.com/technology/2026-10-18/hire-a-human-the-future-where-ais-get-people-to-...
1•dxs•31m ago•0 comments

How a Computer System Works (1975 book)

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/1975-computer-guide-photos/
1•dxs•32m ago•0 comments

I tried the vibe coded Fusion 360 (it's disappointing) [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjaCGFDM55Y
1•mechprogrammer•33m ago•1 comments

Show HN: ElNeo, a E2E enabled matrix client for Emacs, inspired by telega

https://github.com/aard-fi/elneo
1•finaard•35m ago•0 comments

The Law of the Instrument

https://reimar-servas.de/writing/2026-07-07/the-law-of-the-instrument/
1•roosgit•37m ago•0 comments