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Ask HN: PhDs, how have you organized your research visits?

1•thrawyact•39s ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Prompting AI for black magic incantations?

1•julienreszka•1m ago•0 comments

Anthropic commits $10M to Canadian AI research

https://www.anthropic.com/news/canadian-ai-research
2•surprisetalk•3m ago•0 comments

The Center of Our Galaxy Is More Like a Raspberry Donut Than We Realized

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-find-the-first-true-sugar-ever-detected-in-interstellar-s...
2•downwithdisease•3m ago•0 comments

Floating Companion: Exploring Design Space for Soft Floating Robots for Indoor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qrZC1kF7Kc
2•RebootStr•4m ago•0 comments

AI-Notify – Context-aware terminal notifications for multitasking devs

https://medium.com/engineering-in-the-age-of-ai/ai-notify-context-aware-notifications-for-multi-t...
2•heliasdev•4m ago•0 comments

On-device Qwen benchmark: the 4B ties the 9B, and more findings

https://github.com/thomasblc/qwen-ondevice-bench
2•thomasblanc•6m ago•0 comments

Serena Williams Fit-Dex

https://serena-williams-fitdex.netlify.app/
2•bookofjoe•6m ago•0 comments

Identify Skin: AI Dermatology SaaS

https://identify.skin/en
2•GemsGame•7m ago•0 comments

The Law of Shitty Clickthroughs

https://andrewchen.com/the-law-of-shitty-clickthroughs/
2•achenet•7m ago•0 comments

Don't bring an AI detector to a deepfake fight: provenance over detection

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MBRNR5h9g6HGvAJDe/don-t-bring-an-ai-detector-to-a-deepfake-fight-...
2•Despoisj•8m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Any objective research on which languages are best for AI agents?

2•mwigdahl•9m ago•1 comments

Microsoft's Design Tactics Still Undermine Browser Choice

https://research.mozilla.org/browser-competition/over-the-edge-2/
2•TangerineDream•10m ago•0 comments

Lets Encrypt ISRG Root X1 Cert T-Shirt

https://letsencrypt.org/donate/
2•moebrowne•11m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Town – Discord in a pixel town where the NPCs have skills

https://github.com/redplanethq/town
2•harshithmul•13m ago•1 comments

Commodore Amiga –=The City of Gold=- part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5q_2Wel7Xs
2•doener•13m ago•1 comments

Show HN: MDTool – free, client-side Markdown to PDF, HTML and Word (no uploads)

https://www.mdtool.dev
3•usmankhan45•14m ago•0 comments

Psyop Report #2 – Putting Fluoride in the Mental Waters

https://www.psyop.report/p/2-putting-fluoride-in-the-mental
2•OmarShehata•14m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: How do you keep up with news in a particular sector?

2•doruk101•17m ago•3 comments

Andi Roberts and "Communication Patterns Matter"

https://bytecode.news/posts/2026/07/on-andi-roberts-and-communication-patterns-matter
3•jottinger•17m ago•0 comments

Show HN: PocketJS – Solid/Vue JSX and Tailwind at 60fps on a 2004 Sony PSP

https://github.com/pocket-stack/pocketjs
2•doodlewind•17m ago•1 comments

Show HN: I built a tool that turns GitHub commits into posts

https://postezi.com
2•rudolfsrijkuris•18m ago•0 comments

An Update on Igalia's Layer Based SVG Engine in WebKit (Reducing Layer Overhead)

https://blogs.igalia.com/nzimmermann/posts/2026-07-14-lbse-conditional-layers/
3•bkardell•19m ago•0 comments

Auditing the Risk Claims of Distributional Reinforcement Learning

https://arxiv.org/abs/2607.11607
2•sbulaev•20m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Using X vs. LinkedIn?

3•lalithaar•21m ago•0 comments

harper

https://github.com/automattic/harper
2•bookofjoe•21m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Chauffeur – One Click restore of your aplication Context

https://www.emaginasion.com/
2•dmaginas•22m ago•1 comments

U of Chicago law school bans laptops from classes amid AI backlash

https://www.the-independent.com/tech/laptop-ban-university-ai-backlash-b3013911.html
4•smurda•22m ago•0 comments

Ten Steps Towards Happiness (2015)

http://hintjens.com/blog:99
3•downbad_•22m ago•0 comments

Proof of Care in the Age of A.I

https://jacobfilipp.com/care/
5•jfil•23m ago•1 comments
Open in hackernews

The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•1y ago

Comments

tocs3•1y ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."