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The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•1y ago

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tocs3•1y ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."

Trump Ally Wins Colombia Election, Heralding Pro-Market Turn

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-22/trump-ally-wins-colombian-election-heralding-p...
1•baristaGeek•25s ago•0 comments

Show HN: HyperSnatch – local-first evidence workstation for Windows

https://github.com/Z3r0DayZion-install/hypersnatch/releases/tag/v1.6.11
1•neuralshell•3m ago•0 comments

Typevia live LaTeX editing with AI assistance

https://www.typevia.com/
1•Niqht•7m ago•0 comments

Geopolitical jitters push Europe's internet registry away from cloud strategy

https://www.theregister.com/networks/2026/06/19/geopolitical-jitters-push-europes-internet-regist...
2•mooreds•12m ago•0 comments

Therapy ferrets used to kill rats at UK's largest children's prison

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jun/21/therapy-ferrets-kill-rats-uk-largest-children-pri...
3•mooreds•14m ago•0 comments

WebGPU feature detection was not enough to run small LLMs on phones

https://ludion.ai/blog/webgpu-reports-vs-reality/
1•Littice•15m ago•0 comments

Speculation Is All You Need

https://modal.com/blog/spec-is-all-u-need
1•birdculture•16m ago•0 comments

Fugu: Learn to assemble, route, and coordinate expert agents [pdf]

https://github.com/SakanaAI/fugu/blob/main/Fugu_technical_report.pdf
2•saran945•16m ago•0 comments

Extreme Time Value of Money: Late-Stage Career Planning (2021)

https://newsletter.kentbeck.com/p/extreme-time-value-of-money-late
1•mooreds•17m ago•0 comments

Manticore Search 27.1.5

https://manticoresearch.com/blog/manticore-search-27-1-5/
1•snikolaev•28m ago•1 comments

Chile turned to China for an undersea cable. The U.S. said no

https://restofworld.org/2026/chile-china-america-google-cable/
3•higginsniggins•34m ago•0 comments

AI Watchdog

https://www.theatlantic.com/category/ai-watchdog/
1•mikhael•34m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What will AI coding look like when today's CS freshmen graduate?

1•linzhangrun•35m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Local-first LaTeX editor – open-source

https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9p6038j2bxtp?hl=en-US&gl=US
2•leonardosalasd•37m ago•0 comments

Canadian government spent $46.8M on a secret Palantir contract

https://theijf.org/brief/canadian-palantir-contract-amendments-obd
4•logickkk1•39m ago•0 comments

Sakana Fugu

https://sakana.ai/fugu/
21•Finbarr•47m ago•2 comments

Show HN: Free AI courses that require a short reflection to earn a certificate

https://www.abc.com.py
1•pfannl•47m ago•0 comments

Why the Human Genome's Tangled Physicality May Confound AI

https://www.quantamagazine.org/why-the-human-genomes-tangled-physicality-may-confound-ai-20260618/
1•Jimmc414•51m ago•0 comments

Tlbic: A Time-Limited Basic Income System Designed with AI, v7.0

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MtiNjQeQO9ilLuEFXwVeKgWOzec4F2Dn/view?usp=drive_link
2•michikawa59•53m ago•2 comments

Staggeringly precise optical lattice clock has a wealth of practical application

https://www.nippon.com/en/in-depth/d01235/
1•anigbrowl•53m ago•0 comments

Rights for Gods

https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2026/june/rights-for-gods
3•mitchbob•56m ago•1 comments

Microbubbles in Medicine

https://worksinprogress.co/issue/microbubbles/
3•Jimmc414•56m ago•0 comments

Microsoft Activation Scripts – Activate Windows / Office / ESUs

https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
1•beatthatflight•57m ago•1 comments

Watt lies beneath (Geothermal Energy)

https://worksinprogress.co/issue/watt-lies-beneath/
1•Jimmc414•59m ago•0 comments

Josh helps Rust manage code across multiple repositories

https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2026/06/04/how-josh-helps-rust-manage-code-across-multiple...
2•Tiberium•1h ago•0 comments

My Opinion on RL

2•umjunsik132•1h ago•0 comments

The Art of Kite Flying (1430–1929)

https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/art-of-kite-flying/
2•benbreen•1h ago•0 comments

Show HN: Woltspace – a lodge for your coding agents

https://www.woltspace.com/
2•jerpint•1h ago•0 comments

GitHub Banned All CI for Our (OSS) Org Because of Bad Drive-By Contributors

6•BlueMatt•1h ago•0 comments

Americans and AI 2026: Chatbots, Smart Devices and Views on Impact

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2026/06/17/americans-and-ai-2026-chatbots-smart-devices-and-...
3•toomuchtodo•1h ago•1 comments