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The Maclock

https://taoofmac.com/space/reviews/2025/11/24/1900
1•rcarmo•57s ago•0 comments

Cybersecurity industry overreacts to React vulnerability

https://doublepulsar.com/cybersecurity-industry-overreacts-to-react-vulnerability-starts-panic-bu...
1•speckx•1m ago•0 comments

Experimental Drug Repairs DNA Damage Caused by Disease

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/experimental-drug-repairs-dna-damage-caused-by-disease/
2•geox•2m ago•0 comments

Fletcher Hanks and the (Very) Weird World of Stardust the Super Wizard

https://medium.com/@dtrichardson1/fletcher-hanks-and-the-very-weird-world-of-stardust-the-super-w...
1•markcapella•3m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Codesprint – A typing game for practicing coding interview syntax

https://github.com/cwklurks/codesprint
1•cwkcwk•7m ago•0 comments

Wall Street Races to Cut Its Risk from AI's Borrowing Binge

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wall-street-races-cut-risk-113000304.html
2•thewebguyd•10m ago•0 comments

Claude Code made $1B in 6 months – my AI-coded iPhone app shows why

https://www.zdnet.com/article/claude-code-made-an-astonishing-1b-in-6-months-and-my-own-ai-coded-...
1•dxs•11m ago•0 comments

Releasebot – Every Release Note and Changelog in One Place

https://releasebot.io/
1•ArmageddonIt•11m ago•0 comments

50 First Dates with Mr. Meeseeks

https://backnotprop.substack.com/p/50-first-dates-with-mr-meeseeks
1•ramoz•13m ago•0 comments

Show HN: SerpApi MCP Server

https://github.com/serpapi/serpapi-mcp
4•thefoolofdaath•14m ago•0 comments

We Built Lightpanda in Zig

https://lightpanda.io/blog/posts/why-we-built-lightpanda-in-zig
3•ashvardanian•14m ago•0 comments

Keep Effects at the Edges

https://agentultra.com/blog/keep-effects-at-the-edges/
1•vitalnodo•15m ago•0 comments

Norway: Ruter Examines Cybersecurity Risks in Chinese Electric Buses

https://news.busworld.org/article/302123/norway-ruter-examines-cybersecurity-risks-in-chinese-ele...
1•gscott•15m ago•0 comments

Hepatitis B vaccine guidance set to be rolled back for US babies

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-03937-1
6•Amorymeltzer•16m ago•0 comments

Bitbucket self-hosted runner will cost $15/month

https://www.atlassian.com/blog/bitbucket/announcing-v5-self-hosted-runners
2•tcptomato•19m ago•0 comments

Wall Street races to protect itself from AI bubble

https://rollingout.com/2025/12/05/wall-street-protects-itself-ai-bubble/
13•zerosizedweasle•22m ago•1 comments

Software Taboos

http://rebuildworld.net/taboo/
3•pg83•23m ago•1 comments

Agents Training Agents: A practical architecture for autonomous self-improvement

https://techlife.blog/posts/agents-training-agents-a-practical-architecture-for-autonomous-self-i...
2•tsenturk•23m ago•2 comments

The Patient Is Not a Document: Moving from LLMs to a World Model for Oncology

https://blog.standardmodel.bio/p/the-patient-is-not-a-document-moving
3•kevinalexbrown•24m ago•0 comments

2025.49: Conflicts, Consternation, and Code Red

https://stratechery.com/2025/conflicts-consternation-and-code-red/
1•feross•26m ago•0 comments

Apple's Return to Intel Rumored to Extend to iPhone

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/12/05/intel-iphone-chips-rumor/
1•tosh•27m ago•0 comments

50 Years of Proof Assistants

https://lawrencecpaulson.github.io//2025/12/05/History_of_Proof_Assistants.html
2•baruchel•31m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Heart rate with phone camera (plain HTML/JS)

https://github.com/SMUsamaShah/heart-rate
1•smusamashah•32m ago•0 comments

JavaScript Engines Zoo

https://zoo.js.org/
4•gurgunday•32m ago•0 comments

MongoDB Earnings Call Might Have Topped the AI Trade

https://knowtrend.ai/blog/mongodb-postgres
1•codevs•33m ago•0 comments

3D in CSS (No JavaScript)

https://codepen.io/Cubiq-ish/pen/myVNNoe
1•qingcharles•35m ago•0 comments

Are large language models worth it?

https://nicholas.carlini.com/writing/2025/are-llms-worth-it.html
1•PaulHoule•35m ago•0 comments

WikiFlix: Full Movies Hosted on Wikimedia Commons

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Spinster/WikiFlix
12•netule•36m ago•1 comments

A full-body MRI can reveal hidden killers. Do we want to know?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/12/05/full-body-mri-scan-experience/
4•pseudolus•36m ago•2 comments

The Resonant Computing Manifesto

https://simonwillison.net/2025/Dec/5/resonant-computing/
1•mooreds•37m ago•2 comments
Open in hackernews

The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Reasonless Intermediate Tokens

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.13775
4•YeGoblynQueenne•6mo ago

Comments

tocs3•6mo ago
I asked ChatGPT to restate this in more laymen's terms (posted below) and I am not to surprised at the answer.

"Lately, some AI models have shown impressive abilities to solve complex problems, and many people credit this to a method called Chain of Thought (CoT), where the model is trained to think through steps like a human might. In this paper, we take a closer look at that idea to see if it's really what's driving better performance.

We focus on the model’s step-by-step thinking (the words it generates along the way) — often treated like human "thoughts" — and examine whether these actually help the model solve problems more accurately. To test this, we train AI models using clean, correct step-by-step reasoning paths and final answers, all based on a known solving method (A* search). This lets us check both the final answers and the reasoning steps to see how they relate.

Interestingly, we find that even when a model gives the right answer, its reasoning steps can still be wrong or messy. To go further, we even train models using completely random and incorrect reasoning steps — and surprisingly, they still perform about the same, and sometimes even better, than those trained on correct steps.

This suggests that the step-by-step "thoughts" the model shows aren’t as meaningful or reliable as many assume. In short, just because a model looks like it’s reasoning through a problem doesn’t mean it actually is — and we should be careful not to treat its outputs as if it thinks like a human or follows strict logic."