The Palestinian Exception to free speech strikes again
pxc•5h ago
American workplaces don't have freedom of speech and never have, so there are two exceptions in play.
iowemoretohim•4h ago
I don't think this is exclusive to American workplaces, I would wager this is the norm in most of the world.
Tika2234•37m ago
I am 100% sure you do this in ANY businesses in East Asia (small medium or big), you get the boot too. I know cases in Japan and South Korea doing this kind of stunts even if just posting to intetnal forums get one fired. China depends, they are more sensitive to anything related to government matters or potential customers lost.
systemswizard•5h ago
Free speech only extends in dealings with the government. Free speech doesn’t grant you the right to interrupt business events without repercussions
mmh0000•3h ago
Yep! And sure in the 1700's when kings ruled the world that was great! But in the 2000's when CEOs rule the world, we may need to think about extending free speech protections a bit.
jmye•6m ago
Why should you have the right to disrupt a company meeting? Do I have the unmitigated right to come into your sprint planning and scream at you? Does no one have the right to choose not to associate with you if you make yourself unpleasant to be around, or do we all just have to suffer the biggest fool, always and all the time?
Why is your, or this engineer’s speech, more worth protecting than mine, my boss’s, or Nadella’s?
So tired of this nonsense. I don’t want to hear about your shitty politics at work. If you don’t like what your company is doing, quit and do something else.
hshdhdhj4444•5h ago
Can you share examples of a CEO’s public speech at a conference being disrupted with them being accused of being accessory to murder by an employee and the employee remaining in good standing?
bigyabai•4h ago
Palantir, Anduril, Lockheed Martin, Apple, Amazon, Boeing - the list could go on. Many of them don't even deny it, they just try to distract with "look at our health products" and "we saved X amount of lives" rhetoric.
readthenotes1•3h ago
What happened to the employee who disrupted a meeting to level that accusations?
bigyabai•3h ago
Depends on the company. In Palantir's case, the CEO was happy to accept the question at face-value without attacking the employee ad-hominem: https://youtu.be/0mhNLTy5pbQ
orochimaaru•4h ago
This isnt an exception to free speech. He is not being persecuted by the government. He is free to look for other employment if he disagrees with his current employers business practices.
The first amendment protects from government. Private enterprises are free to do as they please.
readthenotes1•4h ago
There is no amendment ensuring the right to disrupt others to focus attention on yourself nor is there anything anymore encoded into the Constitution that allows a different class of behavior because of wealth or class (so neither entitlement nor a sense of grandiosity are protected)
daft_pink•59m ago
To be fair, he had the freedom to say it just not the power to keep his job when he exercised it.
platevoltage•1m ago
As someone who is incredibly sympathetic towards this issue, this person had to know they would be fired over this. I'm glad they (the protester) did it. More people should do this. It's not free speech though. It's civil disobedience.
The crackdown at universities is absolutely a free speech issue.
sc68cal•5h ago
pxc•5h ago
iowemoretohim•4h ago
Tika2234•37m ago
systemswizard•5h ago
mmh0000•3h ago
jmye•6m ago
Why is your, or this engineer’s speech, more worth protecting than mine, my boss’s, or Nadella’s?
So tired of this nonsense. I don’t want to hear about your shitty politics at work. If you don’t like what your company is doing, quit and do something else.
hshdhdhj4444•5h ago
bigyabai•4h ago
readthenotes1•3h ago
bigyabai•3h ago
orochimaaru•4h ago
The first amendment protects from government. Private enterprises are free to do as they please.
readthenotes1•4h ago
daft_pink•59m ago
platevoltage•1m ago
The crackdown at universities is absolutely a free speech issue.