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Ask HN: How do I learn practical electronic repair?

11•juanse•1d ago
In my country, 2 decades ago there are were plenty of people who knew the basics. Today, it feels like a lost art.

I would like to approach it as a hobby, not like electronic engineer level, but enough to debug problem and change components to a low level.

What is the pragmatic approach in this mission? I reckon it will be valuable in the future that comes.

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GianFabien•1d ago
It has become increasingly difficult to repair electronics. The components have become ever smaller and with higher levels of integration. You need access to schematics for the products and datasheets for the components. Of course, you also need sufficient knowledge to use that information. Then there is the issue of sourcing replacement components. If you lack any of the foregoing, then you will have to reverse-engineer the circuits and that is very difficult with multi-layer PCBs.

For any product with microcontrollers, you might be able to locate JTAG connections and use that to debug some of the functionality. But that area requires even greater amount of knowledge and experience.

mindcrime•1d ago
You're not wrong. But still, a lot of gadgets can be repaired with some knowledge and effort, even if you don't have a schematic. If one just knows, for example, that very many faults are power supply related, and knows that problems with capacitors and transistors are responsible for a lot of power supply problems, you can accomplish quite a bit.

But yes, if you are talking about replacing BGA packaged high-end chips in very complex devices, there's a threshold were it becomes very difficult. But even then, if we watch some of what the different folks on Youtube accomplish repairing smartphones, laptops, etc., we'll see that some of these guys can achieve some pretty impressive results even without fancy labs and complete schematics, etc. Not everything is repairable of course, but I don't think pursuing this path is exactly "tilting at windmills" either.

mindcrime•1d ago
What is the pragmatic approach in this mission?

There are a lot of good videos on Youtube, for one. Louis Rossmann has some good stuff (especially his older stuff), Dave Jones has some good repair videos (intermingled with a LOT of other stuff, though), and there are plenty of other channels dedicated to electronics repairs.

Having said that... you'll need to know at least a bit about electronics (qua electronics) before going terribly far with electronics repair. Much the same way that one could only get so far at debugging and fixing code, if one didn't know something about writing code in the first place.

So... there are, again, videos on Youtube. The Vocademy channel, for one, is a great resource for general electronics theory.

And books. Don't forget books.

I'd suggest, depending on your existing knowledge level, find a couple of books on basic electronics, load up some of those videos, get some components and perfboard and a soldering iron and some basic test equipment (a multimeter and an oscilloscope are a good start) and start building simple circuits. And gradually expand the range of circuits you build to become more complex over time. More or less simultaneously, start watching YT videos on "electronics repair". The thing is, there's a difference between knowing "the theory of electronics" and having the debugging / troubleshooting skills, intuition, judgment, etc. to diagnose faults. The two things are related, but are somewhat orthogonal.

At some point, find used junk non-working electronics, either stuff friends/family will give you, or stuff you dig out of a dumpster, or buy at thrift shops, or buy off of Ebay listed as "not working / for parts only" and start trying to fix things.

So basically... "learn theory / build stuff / fix stuff" in an iterative loop. That's about the best advice I can give.

I reckon it will be valuable in the future that comes.

I agree. That's one reason (not the only reason mind you, but one) that I've spent a modest amount of money over the last year or two, upgrading my electronics lab, in terms of tools, test equipment, etc. I mean, I do this stuff for a hobby, and it's been a nearly life-long thing for me anyway. But more and more recently, I find myself thinking that the ability to repair/hack/build electronic "stuff" will be a skill with serious value. I just wish I had more time to commit to it.

Bjartr•1d ago
Head to Craigslist to buy broken electronics on the cheap and practice repairing them.

One upside to this approach is that as you improve it can pay for itself by reselling the fixed items.

toast0•22h ago
I was going to say the same thing. The way to learn practical repair is to get broken things and try to fix them ... chances are most of them will get more broken, but as long as you're not spending much to get your test subjects, no big deal.
mikewarot•1d ago
I've got a friend who has been at this since learning in TV repair shops in the 1950s. His emphasis is always on fast turn-around. He doesn't believe in slowly turning on things with old electrolytic capacitors, for example. I've learned quite a bit from him.

I've learned not to fear B+, but to give very healthy respect to anything more than 500 volts. (Only use 1 hand, keep the other behind you, always have a safety partner, etc)

I've learned to hate Silver Mica capacitors. I've learned how to track down the bad ones that cause the "crashing" sound in old radios.

I've learned that in very old electronics, you can let smoke out, and things will still work. I've gotten good at seeing where the smoke comes from.

You'll definitely need to learn to solder. I'd suggest starting with something like an Arduino starter kit to get a sense of how components actually interact.

But remember, if something is dead, you can't really make it worse. (Just be careful not to make yourself worse along the way)

brudgers•1d ago
1. Multimeter.

2.Soldering iron, for starting out I suggest spending a little more and getting a Hakko 888 instead of something cheaper.

3. Flux, Leaded solder, Braid.

4. Broken things you want to repair (for me it has been electronic musical instruments).

5. Practice, Patience, and hobby money.

6. Pay for Youtube Premium.

7. Ali Express Account.

opan•22h ago
You can get quite far with a Pinecil + additional tips (chisel tip is nice).
brudgers•18h ago
The Hakko 888 can take a big chunky tip that will usually put enough heat into a ground pin to desolder it when there is a healthy ground plane.

It is hard to get a healthy amount of thermal mass with a small iron.

Hot air and tweezers, cheap is fine.

BOOSTERHIDROGEN•23h ago
It's even worse in countries where electronics parts aren't cheap and readily available.
markus_zhang•21h ago
I plan to buy some soldering equipment to work on some soldering kits. Soldering is definitely the most important skill in this field.

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