“I’m not seeing many first-time homebuyers right now,” said Nicole Stewart, a Redfin Premier real estate agent in Boise, ID. “Rental rates here are still more manageable than saving up for a down payment and mortgage. People are finding rentals that are nicer than the house they could afford at the same monthly cost. That’s in part because a lot of home sellers are overpricing their properties as they struggle to adjust to the changing housing market.”
> The typical U.S. homebuyer needs to earn over $50,000 more than the typical renter to afford monthly housing payments, and the gap has been widening due to high home prices and mortgages rates.
I’ve heard that buying a house is being “long” on the local labor market. What this is suggesting is that labor markets (i.e. salaries) in general have not kept pace with inflation and higher interest rates.
The article shows our rents are up 4 percent; nothing shows any indication of slowing.
The folks most likely to be priced out of housing by escalating costs - they are the same folks who don't have the stack of cash needed to move to a different market.
andsoitis•6h ago
actuallyalys•5h ago
> The construction boom, nonetheless, has improved rent affordability, according to Realtor.com data.
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speff•5h ago
> Demand for housing also remains heavy because Soviet rents, heavily subsidized by the Government, are very low. A modest two‐room apartment will en for 6 to 8 rubles ($8 to $11.30) a month, including some utilities. A four‐room apartment wil rent for 14 to 16 rubles ($18.20 to $22.30). Apartments in more modern buildings cost more because of additional services.
https://www.nytimes.com/1974/11/11/archives/in-soviet-ingenu...
ensignavenger•4h ago
kelnos•5h ago
Sure, that's just a guideline, but it's presumably based on what is (or once was) reasonable and possible to expect.
lazide•5h ago
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margalabargala•5h ago
Also I'm not sure rental rates in a country currently actively being invaded and regularly bombed is a good example.
myflash13•5h ago
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IshKebab•5h ago
sfmz•5h ago
From "Tragedy & Hope" by Carrol Quigley
IshKebab•5h ago
I think he meant non-subsidized rents.
snapplebobapple•4h ago
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xnx•4h ago
If that were ever true, people would chose to spend a higher percentage to get a nicer, bigger, or better located place.
Unlike many goods, there is practically no upper bound on what you can spend on housing. You can't buy a better phone for $3000, but you can continue to buy a better home up to $50 million (possibly more).
jayd16•5h ago
When people throw around the word shortage what they mean is "availability at a price I'm willing to pay." Same with labor shortages.
moron4hire•5h ago
lazide•5h ago
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WarOnPrivacy•5h ago
What we learned is that those voices are catastrophic for entire classes of people - like new families.
happytoexplain•4h ago
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jayd16•2h ago
WarOnPrivacy•5h ago
For the many scores of millions of us, it's "not more than I can possibly pay".
ref: lived thru the 400 applications per day per rental crisis in 2021.
elashri•5h ago
SubiculumCode•5h ago
So we will just have to see if prices continue to drop.
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esseph•5h ago
"Just because home prices are coming down and there are more listings, doesn't mean that prices are affordable. So there's still a supply problem in cities like Austin," Turner said. "I think only 25 percent of Austinites can afford to purchase a home at the median home price."
const_cast•2h ago
mathattack•5h ago
1 - The median apartment this year may be different than the median apartment 3 years ago. Perhaps cheaper (or smaller) apartments and houses are coming up for rent. A more accurate measure would be comparing the prior rents to new rents for existing places.
2 - Median doesn't equal mean. The 50th percentile apartment may be cheaper, while the 25th (more applicable for housing affordability discussion) or 75th (more applicable to HN readers) may be higher.
3 - The median is still up 20% over pre-pandemic levels.
4 - To measure housing shortage we should check levels of homelessness based on economic reasons. (Much more complicated than median price)
Molitor5901•5h ago
There is plenty of housing, but in a capitalist market of supply versus demand, the loudest group are going to be those who want to live in the expensive housing but can't afford it.
iambateman•5h ago
The story shows 28/44 metro areas had decreasing rents last year, so 64%. That still means that the other 16 had rising rents.
My guess is that rents lag inflation quite a bit, so the (slight) decrease is basically reflecting the drop in inflation over the past couple years. So, yes rents dropped 1% last year but they’re up 20% over 5 years.
I do believe that the US has a significant shortage of housing that is high quality in city centers. Families don’t want to live in apartments in this country so they end up living 20+ miles from their work and spending a huge amount on transportation.