just bring the goddamn meteor already
While that may be true, I'd suggest that it is not a consensus view and, more specifically, there is probably a consensus that the capability to do arbitrary scrapes and inputs needs to exist in a controlled fashion. Wayland had a bizarre stillbirth where the core team resisted screenshots, I can't remember when the Wayland ecosystem started getting serious about enabling screen sharing but I've got a memory that it was post-COVID.
It goes to show how challenging the space is that Wayland managed to keep trudging on, but it was nothing to do with "woke" and a lot to do with "I don't accept that screenshots are a significant development hurdle". I still flat out don't trust them to have resolved all the issues crippling things like autoclickers but I'm hopeful I'm just very out of date. The initial take was poorly designed and that bit Wayland's adoption hard.
The ecosystem may eventually reach the level of capability that X had in a standardised and secure way. Maybe it even has (I doubt it). But there is no consensus that security trumps having a usable desktop. I'm happy with an insecure desktop, anyone serious who wants to spy on me can use my phone. It is wildly insecure as far as I care and I carry it with me most hours. People trade this stuff off for convenience. Every time I've tried Wayland I discovered it had been secured against me using my system to get things done.
And yeah, nothing in it was related to "woke" (that's just certain dev's personal weirdness), and a lot was related to really weird community situation that X.Org (which is not X11 itself) got itself in, like the costly and failed switch to autotools (they switched, but didn't get the results they undertook that pain for). Meanwhile they were operating from "lowest common denominator" code base that got extended a lot but never truly redone (compare Xsgi, which was a compositing X server and made extensive use of multiple visuals to ensure optimal resource usage).
It is taking a screenshot without the flash that Gnome attempts to restrict (and I'm interested in how to bypass the restriction).
But, if an ecosystem that excludes people through no fault of their own grows up, that sucks.
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jen729w•49m ago
And I don't know why OP is being downvoted. What's the point of putting a website up if you 403 people who try to visit? That is FUBAR BROKEN and is inexcusable, sorry.
dsr_•22m ago
It's completely excusable considering that they have been the target of a lot of bandwidth attacks... and that they don't owe you anything.
haolez•54m ago