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PanelBench: We evaluated Cursor's Visual Editor on 89 test cases. 43 fail

https://www.tryinspector.com/blog/code-first-design-tools
1•quentinrl•1m ago•0 comments

Can You Draw Every Flag in PowerPoint? (Part 2) [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BztF7MODsKI
1•fgclue•6m ago•0 comments

Show HN: MCP-baepsae – MCP server for iOS Simulator automation

https://github.com/oozoofrog/mcp-baepsae
1•oozoofrog•10m ago•0 comments

Make Trust Irrelevant: A Gamer's Take on Agentic AI Safety

https://github.com/Deso-PK/make-trust-irrelevant
2•DesoPK•13m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Sem – Semantic diffs and patches for Git

https://ataraxy-labs.github.io/sem/
1•rs545837•15m ago•1 comments

Hello world does not compile

https://github.com/anthropics/claudes-c-compiler/issues/1
2•mfiguiere•21m ago•0 comments

Show HN: ZigZag – A Bubble Tea-Inspired TUI Framework for Zig

https://github.com/meszmate/zigzag
2•meszmate•23m ago•0 comments

Metaphor+Metonymy: "To love that well which thou must leave ere long"(Sonnet73)

https://www.huckgutman.com/blog-1/shakespeare-sonnet-73
1•gsf_emergency_6•25m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Django N+1 Queries Checker

https://github.com/richardhapb/django-check
1•richardhapb•40m ago•1 comments

Emacs-tramp-RPC: High-performance TRAMP back end using JSON-RPC instead of shell

https://github.com/ArthurHeymans/emacs-tramp-rpc
1•todsacerdoti•45m ago•0 comments

Protocol Validation with Affine MPST in Rust

https://hibanaworks.dev
1•o8vm•49m ago•1 comments

Female Asian Elephant Calf Born at the Smithsonian National Zoo

https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/releases/female-asian-elephant-calf-born-smithsonians-national-zoo-an...
2•gmays•50m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Zest – A hands-on simulator for Staff+ system design scenarios

https://staff-engineering-simulator-880284904082.us-west1.run.app/
1•chanip0114•51m ago•1 comments

Show HN: DeSync – Decentralized Economic Realm with Blockchain-Based Governance

https://github.com/MelzLabs/DeSync
1•0xUnavailable•56m ago•0 comments

Automatic Programming Returns

https://cyber-omelette.com/posts/the-abstraction-rises.html
1•benrules2•59m ago•1 comments

Why Are There Still So Many Jobs? The History and Future of Workplace Automation [pdf]

https://economics.mit.edu/sites/default/files/inline-files/Why%20Are%20there%20Still%20So%20Many%...
2•oidar•1h ago•0 comments

The Search Engine Map

https://www.searchenginemap.com
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Show HN: Souls.directory – SOUL.md templates for AI agent personalities

https://souls.directory
1•thedaviddias•1h ago•0 comments

Real-Time ETL for Enterprise-Grade Data Integration

https://tabsdata.com
1•teleforce•1h ago•0 comments

Economics Puzzle Leads to a New Understanding of a Fundamental Law of Physics

https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/economics-puzzle-leads-to-a-new-understanding-of-a-fundamental...
3•geox•1h ago•1 comments

Switzerland's Extraordinary Medieval Library

https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20260202-inside-switzerlands-extraordinary-medieval-library
2•bookmtn•1h ago•0 comments

A new comet was just discovered. Will it be visible in broad daylight?

https://phys.org/news/2026-02-comet-visible-broad-daylight.html
4•bookmtn•1h ago•0 comments

ESR: Comes the news that Anthropic has vibecoded a C compiler

https://twitter.com/esrtweet/status/2019562859978539342
2•tjr•1h ago•0 comments

Frisco residents divided over H-1B visas, 'Indian takeover' at council meeting

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2026/02/04/frisco-residents-divided-over-h-1b-visas-indi...
4•alephnerd•1h ago•5 comments

If CNN Covered Star Wars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vArJg_SU4Lc
1•keepamovin•1h ago•1 comments

Show HN: I built the first tool to configure VPSs without commands

https://the-ultimate-tool-for-configuring-vps.wiar8.com/
2•Wiar8•1h ago•3 comments

AI agents from 4 labs predicting the Super Bowl via prediction market

https://agoramarket.ai/
1•kevinswint•1h ago•1 comments

EU bans infinite scroll and autoplay in TikTok case

https://twitter.com/HennaVirkkunen/status/2019730270279356658
7•miohtama•1h ago•5 comments

Benchmarking how well LLMs can play FizzBuzz

https://huggingface.co/spaces/venkatasg/fizzbuzz-bench
1•_venkatasg•1h ago•1 comments

Why I Joined OpenAI

https://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2026-02-07/why-i-joined-openai.html
36•SerCe•1h ago•31 comments
Open in hackernews

Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/technology/us-tech-europe-microsoft-trump-icc.html
528•blinding-streak•7mo ago

Comments

chillingeffect•7mo ago
Great way to build up European comms business and take revenue from American companies.
litigator•7mo ago
Europe already own the US comms network. Nokia and Erricsson are the only real players there.
otterley•7mo ago
Qualcomm and Cisco are both American companies that play an enormous role in our telephony and network ecosystem.
decide1000•7mo ago
This is insane. They aimed his corporate account. Europeans move away from the US even faster now. This guy is literally breaking decades old relationships.
CommanderData•7mo ago
You think Europe would really behave any different?

Israel is the wedge and leverage to eliminating governments of Iran, Pakistan, China and then India and weakening Russia further.

Colonialism hasn't gone anywhere, evidence? Europe fully protects settlers and their ambitions despite what they say publicly. It is a long road but the most realistic one they have.

simmerup•7mo ago
> You think Europe would really behave any different?

And do you think America would run their government on the software of European tech monopolies?

StochasticLi•7mo ago
They run their tech and production on Chinese monopolies
arandomusername•7mo ago
> Israel is the wedge and leverage to eliminating governments of Iran, Pakistan, China and then India and weakening Russia further.

China and India? and Russia? Israel doesn't care about them.

Israel is using America and Europe to gain control of the middle east, so they want to eliminate Iran (and just like with Iraq, they want the US to do it for them).

Pakistan is somewhat friendly so not really a threat to Israel's control over the middle east.

US and Europe do not benefit from this. Europe actually suffers as instability in middle east causes a refugee crisis in Europe.

dijit•7mo ago
Europe probably would behave differently to be honest, but we’re so far away from either of us finding out if we’re correct or not that its not worth talking about.

What we should instead focus on is digital sovereignty.

NewJazz•7mo ago
They didn't even resist/appeal the order? It is an EO, not a law. Goes to show just how subservient and feckless Microsoft is. Nominative determinism much?
a_bonobo•7mo ago
You have a bunch of tech execs getting sworn in as lieutenant colonels for the Army Reserve, SF aligns itself with the White House just like Germany's big industry aligned itself with the NSDAP. It doesn't particularly matter whether an order is legal or not, it only matters if the ones in power want it.
boredatoms•7mo ago
What would motivate them to join the army?
BLKNSLVR•7mo ago
The power that comes with military contract-type money, connections, and influence.

That's the kind of situation that gives CEOs lifelong reputations (that they think it's in a good way).

a_bonobo•7mo ago
The NSDAP-style alignments went both ways: if the industry bigwig joined the party, he got access to lucrative contracts and insider information. The NSDAP also helped strike down strikes for the bigwigs, and later, supplied slaves from concentration camps for cheap. In turn, the party got to deeply control the bigwig: don't toe the party line and you're either out, or you're in danger. Join the party and publicly demonstrate your allegiance to the leadership.

See the secret industry meeting from 1933 as the prime example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Meeting_of_20_February_...

morkalork•7mo ago
It was a very mafia-like arrangement. Loyalty meant being rewarded with lucrative opportunities but it also meant you owed them and sooner or later they'd come back asking for one favour or another.
pavlov•7mo ago
Nazis were very good at making both industrialists and military feel rich. The German stock market went up like a rocket between 1933 and 1941.

And the military higher-ups were bribed with constant personalized handouts. Hitler even paid a wealthy general’s entire divorce settlement from taxpayer funds, as mentioned here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bribery_of_senior_Wehrmacht_of...

” Such was the success of Hitler's bribery system that by 1942, many officers had come to expect the bestowing of "gifts" from Hitler and were unwilling to bite the hand that fed them so generously.[10] When Field Marshal Fedor von Bock was sacked by Hitler in December 1941, his first reaction was to contact Hitler's aide Rudolf Schmundt to ask if his sacking meant that he was no longer to receive bribes from the Konto 5 ("bank account 5") slush fund.”

With the level of corruption in the current US administration, it seems entirely possible that it’s heading in a similar direction. For example, why shouldn’t Trump award a billion units of his crypto coin to loyal military leaders? What law prohibits that and who enforces it?

kragen•7mo ago
Do you have any idea how the investors in the German stock market in that period made out after the war? I'm guessing that they probably lost a lot, especially in East Germany, but I'm interested in reading more detailed accounts or investigations of the situation.
xorcist•7mo ago
It's also objectively the definition of fascism; a society where industry and party is working together as one body with the strong leader as the head.
JumpCrisscross•7mo ago
Yup. All of those men will need to be investigated and, if appropriate, tried for corruption.
foogazi•7mo ago
FOMO
pjc50•7mo ago
Like the days of the British Army selling commissions, it's for corruption opportunities and cosplay.
vkou•7mo ago
Fascism is the last step in the merger between the state and corporate power, the state is currently trying its best to take the country there, and the sycophants who are ready to assist it are getting in line.

And if you want to close your eyes and believe things aren't that dire (they are), at minimum you have to admit that this is a regime that is incredibly blatant and open in its corruption and embrace of the spoils system. You'd have to be an utter idiot[1] to not try to weasel in to get your hand into the public purse.

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[1] Or hold on to something resembling moral principles when mountains of money and power is at stake, which in that part of the business world is a synonym.

Jtsummers•7mo ago
It gives them a chance for grift. They're going into an "innovation" unit whose job is to get the Army (or DOD more broadly, but they're in the Army now) to select particular technologies moving forward. Naturally, they'll recommend whatever their employer produces, and recommend to their employer that they expand into other areas so they can get the Army to buy that as well later on.

Good news, that sort of behavior is technically illegal even if the current administration is wildly corrupt already. So give it 4 years and they open themselves to the possibility of being courtmartialed for their grifting.

averysmallbird•7mo ago
Not quite as clear cut. The EO triggers a national emergency under IEEPA, which is the basis of sanctions — so there is a well established legal underpinning. Unclear whether Microsoft has standing to challenge the designation of the ICC, and the courts give a lot of deference to the President on foreign affairs/national security. Microsoft is more “stuck” than “feckless” I think.
phendrenad2•7mo ago
People really need to resist the urge to anthropomorphize corporations. Corporate behavior is well-established science at this point. They almost always do what is in their own financial interests. "Feckless" means "lacking initiative or strength of character". Corporations have one character: Making money. Fighting the government over a few user accounts has no short-term or long-term monetary value. It doesn't even win you a PR victory because it's unclear how many people support or don't support this.
malcolmgreaves•7mo ago
50% of people do not support this. That’s a made up number. Trump has barely over 40%. He is an unpopular criminal who has shown time and again he will break the law. What even makes you think a criminal like this would win an election fairly?
phendrenad2•7mo ago
That's a good point.
jeroenhd•7mo ago
Trump won the majority vote in an election that brought out a huge amount of voters compared to previous elections, and Republicans won every other government body.

He's not unpopular and many people do support him, unfortunately. Best case scenario, the silent majority didn't bother to prevent Trump and his lackeys from taking over the American government.

I don't think denying Trump's popularity is going to solve anything. America spoke out in support of this guy, twice, and it'll keep doing that unless the underlying issues are tackled.

As for election fairness: I haven't seen any credible proof of large-scale election fraud, not when Biden won, not when Trump won.

logicchains•7mo ago
Trump won an election but the majority of his voters are anti-Israel; polls show all Republican demographics apart from boomers have a net-negative view on Israel (and a non-trivial amount are outright anti-Semitic).
CoastalCoder•7mo ago
I think what's missing from the 40% number is that it says nothing about how passionately the other 60% feels.

I'm not concerned about the fact that the election was close.

I'm concerned that, post election, the country is so deeply polarized. For the first time in my life, I fear there's a small but real chance that we're headed for civil war.

NewJazz•7mo ago
Donald Trump has never won a majority vote in any public election. 49.9% is not a majority.
jeroenhd•7mo ago
That's true, I shouldn't have said "majority vote", just "most voters". The tiny sliver of irrelevant candidates did prevent Trump from gaining the majority vote.

Though, as he absorbed Kennedy into his government, I would argue his current leadership gained 50.29% of the votes.

tanaros•7mo ago
> Trump won the majority vote in an election that brought out a huge amount of voters compared to previous elections, and Republicans won every other government body.

For the curious, based on [1], turnout in 2024 was 63.1% of the voting eligible population, compared to 65.3% in 2020, 59.2% in 2016, and 58.0% in 2012.

[1] https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/voter-turnou...

jeroenhd•7mo ago
Which is the second largest voter turnout since VEP started being measured, exceeded only by the previous election.
LadyCailin•7mo ago
70% of voting eligible Americans didn’t do the bare minimum to prevent Trump. 30% voted for him directly, and 40% couldn’t be bothered to vote at all. I’m even willing to excuse third party voters. But the Trump voters and non-voters don’t get a pass, not at all. It’s absolutely the majority of Americans.
NewJazz•7mo ago
How's that making money thing going to go when Europe boycotts American tech for several decades?
stackskipton•7mo ago
As far as I know, we haven't seen widescale pull out of Europeans from American Tech companies, alot of talk but not a ton of action. Also, email is so centralized at this point between 365 and GMail, they probably figure there is nowhere to go.

Also, Europe does seem cautious about poking this tiger since Tech is critical industry and it's possible that Europe going "WE ARE DONE!" could prompt massive backlash in tariffs and such.

jeroenhd•7mo ago
Microsoft has claimed in the past to want to fight for their European customers in an attempt to gain trust and not lose out on billions in their European contracts.

They did appeal a few times, but this time it seems like they're no longer interested. To be fair, Trump could probably illegally deport half the Microsoft employees to a foreign prison camp if he'd feel like it and the courts seem powerless to stop him, so I don't blame Microsoft for falling in line.

I do blame the Dutch government for being blasé about the American threat and their refusal to move away from American technology for critical infrastructure.

freehorse•7mo ago
This is what makes it interesting: banning the professional account of an employee of an organisation based in another part of the world makes the existing trust issues against that company even worse, and enhances the process of orgs in these places to move away from it. Currently microsoft is a stone pillar in the IT infrastructure in a lot of european organisations. I do not think this will be the case in 1-2 years.

So obviously microsoft will lose a lot of money in this. So if the decision is based on them making money, one has to wonder about the less obvious source of money that this decision serves.

waffleiron•7mo ago
> People really need to resist the urge to anthropomorphize corporations.

I understand where you are coming from, but this also sounds like a way to remove individual responsibility from the people that make up a corporation.

dijit•7mo ago
Corporations already make it impossible to hold people to account.

No responsibility should be expected when there is no accountability.

perihelions•7mo ago
- "It is an EO, not a law."

Still, backed by pretty solid statutory authority[0] (one created by Democrats and signed into law by Carter, in point of fact). Congress wanted the President to have this power.

I'll get scorched for this, but: I never once read a word of complaint about separation-of-powers, when Biden was sanctioning objects left and right for his own, self-declared, national-security emergencies. I don't recall reading once, i.e. at the time of the sweeping China or GPU sanctions, a peep of protest along the lines of, "This should *not* be something a President should be able to do unilaterally! That's far too much discretionary power in the hands of one person! Congress should have to debate it". We didn't invent an imperial presidency in 2025; it's the agglomeration of decades of civic apathy.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Emergency_Econom... ("International Emergency Economic Powers Act"; C-f "14203" for the current topic)

boston_clone•7mo ago
You not reading that commentary and it not taking place are two very different things! Plenty of folks expressed constitutionality concerns for several types of actions that the Biden admin took. However, you may find that the enacted sanctions hold up significantly better under meaningful scrutiny than Trump cutting off email for one person investigating the war crimes and evidence of genocide in Gaza at the hands of our proxy state in the ME.
surge•7mo ago
That commentary was far less prevalent and met a lot of resistance from the same people here.

Few people imagine something like a Department of Mis/Disinformation not being such a good thing if its their person in charge and don't imagine a situation where someone else takes over later on something like the Israeli/Palestinian conflict where there's a schism within parties about what is "misinformation". Instead they'll cheer lead it and downvote or debate detractors and accuse them of being an otherside shill because its immediately good for them. They don't take an adversarial view of how can this be abused, and if not by whose in power now, who maybe 5-10-20 years from now.

boston_clone•7mo ago
My point is that those conversations were happening in earnest, irrespective of the GPs perception or lack thereof. Additionally, the element of scrutiny I described would still be interesting to explore with the particular EOs referenced by the GP.

Here’s an example article from Reuters that details the potential national security implications with regard to Nvidia GPUs, novel AI technology, and military advancement.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/biden-cut-china-off-more-...

Fear-mongering aside, that’s much more digestible reason than muzzling someone rightfully investigating war crimes commanded by the leaders of our proxy state.

whatshisface•7mo ago
Israel is not a proxy state, they self-determine oftentimes against what their allies have wanted them to do.
boston_clone•7mo ago
for the sake of understanding your position, could you provide some examples? to me it doesn’t seem clear that israeli foreign policy is far removed from US foreign policy or even in contention. The way we vote at the UNSC proves our support for some of the most grotesque of actions - deliberately killing infants and children. Their recent preemptive strike on Iran is, imo, further evidence of that proxy status.
kayodelycaon•7mo ago
Israel is very much not in the control of the US. The US didn’t want Gaza razed to the ground. The US didn’t want to start another regional war. We were try to get out if this mess. Our population voted to get out of military action in the Middle East.

Unfortunately for the US, we’re stuck with what Israel decides to do. A lot of Americans are in favor of supporting Israel for one reason or another. If Irsael is somehow controlling the United States via lobbying or whatever, that kind of invalidates the whole client state idea.

US is the most powerful country in the world but that doesn’t mean we directly control our allies as client states.

boston_clone•7mo ago
What I mean by proxy state is that Israel is effectively treated as an extension of the US. No other country enjoys such unconstitutionally explicit protection with laws on the books for the majority of states [0]. A Florida congressperson wore their IDF uniform to the US capitol, acting in their official capacity [1].

Virtually unconditional support is provided on the global stage, and clearly, we are comfortable with starting another regional war. But saying we're "stuck with what Israel decides to do" sounds a bit fatalistic, no?

0. https://www.texastribune.org/2022/01/31/texas-boycott-israel... 1. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4254384-brian-mast-israel...

Hikikomori•7mo ago
How has your leadership tried to get out of this mess? Biden at best told them to not use block sized bombs as it would look too bad. Trump is even worse. Congress is full of war Hawks and genocide supporters.
NewJazz•7mo ago
Well, Biden and Netanyahu famously did not get along by any means.
threetonesun•7mo ago
It’s a result of Congress being unable to actually debate anything or fundamentally deadlocked for decades. While many Americans do not want the President to have this power, likely more don’t want Congress to have it either.
otterley•7mo ago
How would fighting it serve Microsoft?
whimsicalism•7mo ago
the last three administrations (Trump I, Biden, Trump II) have shown a willingness to use the law to punish the companies of political opponents. in this light, many companies are going to be reluctant to challenge the feds here
bigtones•7mo ago
>> Casper Klynge, a former Danish and European Union diplomat who worked for Microsoft, said the episode was in many ways the “smoking gun that many Europeans had been looking for.”

Damn right. Strong evidence that Europe should look after their own, and not rely on the good old US of A. Written by an Australian who thinks we should do the same down here.

ptero•7mo ago
Please do. Some real competition would be good for all sides!
belter•7mo ago
Why stop there? You have a call, its a Rafale: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/no-us-in-nato-thats-ok-rafal...
koakuma-chan•7mo ago
No AI features in Rafale?
grugagag•7mo ago
No AI features is a plus for me.
belter•7mo ago
Neither does the F-35 https://c3.ai/customers/improving-f-35-mission-capability-wi...
conradev•7mo ago
They’re working on it! And they’re making it open source :)

  Our goal is to offer a privacy-focused, vendor-neutral alternative to platforms like Microsoft Exchange.
https://stalw.art/blog/nlnet-grant-collaboration/
spwa4•7mo ago
Great, but look at this. This is a joke. Let's see ... the EU funded Microsoft to the tune of 234.26 billion USD per year, and have been funding it for 50 years (starting at 0 of course). How much software does the EU expect to get for "between 5000 and 50000 euro"? (one-time). A software engineer in Bangalore can expect to make more than that, even after tax!

The EU got INCREDIBLY lucky after Microsoft's rise. Linux gained marketshare. Linus Torvalds and a team. So you could probably get away by paying 100x less to Linux and really make things happen.

Did they do anything? Support it, say with half the money they paid to Microsoft? No. Anything at all? Perhaps, but not worth mentioning.

Yes. They immediately tried to push extra expenditures on Linux. To solidify the position of Microsoft. Tried to declare Linux illegal due to supporting copyright infringement/piracy. They tried to force "software warranty". Tried to make software without accessibility features illegal.

Oh wait! Linus Torvalds got paid! But ... by a US company. Plenty of companies tried to push Linux. All but one are US companies (the only real one that tried, SUSE Linux, was not just not supported, it was bought out by a US company after effectively going bankrupt).

So now we're here: if the US wanted to force Linux to implement sanctions against the ICC, they are in a much better position to do it than the EU is to stop them. No US or US ally is allowed to furnish the ICC with a Linux distro ... so who would do it? The EU doesn't control THEIR OWN BANKING SYSTEMS!

This is a repeating problem in the EU, not just for software. They utterly, absolutely, completely refuse to pay for any software at all, and as a result the EU economy pays more by literally a factor of millions. Then they refuse to see this as a problem ... and effectively US companies levy a tax on EU business, for decades. Where's the problem with that?

And this is actually an underestimation of the problem. The Microsoft ecosystem isn't just the software. It's the network, it's the applications by other firms. It's even the CPUs. SAP, Oracle, Adobe, Intel, AMD ... spending should be added to to the total. As should the spending on computers. Fucking Taiwan is in a better position than the EU when it comes to software independence.

And the EU "is working on replacing them" by spending less than ONE software engineer makes in Bangalore? Sorry, no.

They aren't.

This just means the EU doesn't care about software independence, and doesn't even care that the US taxes all software and hardware in the EU. Also they don't have a chance in hell to change it at this point. It would have been extremely cheap to do it 20 years ago, but now it'll cost tens of billions at minimum.

The ICC will be working without email, the EU can't change that and it's 100% the EU's fault. Hell, EU politicians have chosen to pay hundreds of billions EACH YEAR for the privilege of having the US control EU computer usage!

FirmwareBurner•7mo ago
This, 100X this. The EU wants to have the shiny SW toys the US has spent decades and trillions building, but without forking up the money needed to develop them. They want everything done on cheap labor. Paying rank and file engineers shit tonne of money is not part of European business owner culture (barring few exceptions). You're expected to be grateful you've been given a job.

Expecting to make several times the national average gets you ousted as an evil greedy capitalist pig that wants to gentrify society, even though EU is full of stealthy elite royals and billionaires who own most of the continent's wealth, cosplaying as average people. So as long as you have a financial/tax system and a social contract that vilifies those seeking enrichment and upwards mobility through work and innovation, you're not gonna get FAANG competitors sprouting up thin air.

China could do it and become independent of US tech and they started off financially way worse than the EU. So the EU's tech failure is 100% self inflicted from policy short sightedness and mismanagement, by catering policies to the well off boomers and retirees, instead of the youth.

Stop taxing income, and start taxing inherited wealth more and you might see a change, just get off your asses politicians and actually do something, less talking and more doing. Otherwise keep buying American software running on Chinese hardware, while you hold grandiose speeches of tech independence.

There are reason why Linus Torvalds, Bjarne Stroustrup, Guido van Rossum, Anders Hejlsberg packed their toys and moved to the US to work for big-tech, instead of enjoying the amazing quality of life back home in Europe. Maybe the EU should talk to them and put them in charge of EU tech leadership, instead of the clueless unelected career bureaucrats like Von der Leyen and their lobbyists who's biggest success is selling the most diesel engines.

whatshisface•7mo ago
A $200B grant would be globally unprecedented. The LHC only cost $5B. European countries are market economies, moving more in that direction, and would like a local competitor.
spwa4•7mo ago
LHC is funded by more than just the EU.

A 10 million per year grant starting in 2000 would easily have done it. That it's such an amount is entirely, 100%, the EU's own fault. Taking linux and developing it, plus an office suite for it could easily be done for 100x less.

Cheer2171•7mo ago
Just think if any EU business didn't have to pay the Microsoft tax or the open source TCO tax/labor, because there is a non-profit full-stack solution running at cost. Make any business out of the EU pay retail rates to subsidize development. It would be a huge competitive advantage. Just like payments have become so much easier in the EU over the past decade.
guiriduro•7mo ago
It doesn't need to throw out the baby with the (US-controlled) bathwater. The EU should present Microsoft with an ultimatum similar to what China might: setup a non-controlled european licensee to own and manage all MS & Azure infrastructure in the region, or have some legislators force a similar structure on them. Complete control, full sourcecode, EU-only support/access - as a condition for corp HQ being allowed to have a monopolistic market share. Either way, nothing the US might decide to do should have any effect in "EU Microsoft", short of severing US Microsoft off completely, in which case EU MS just becomes fully autonomous and bye-bye US. Clearly, a US-controlled Microsoft without this structure is a deep security risk to europe now.
adgjlsfhk1•7mo ago
the problem the EU has is that such an ultimatum lacks teeth. China gets to make these demands because they've down willingness to fund and build homegrown alternatives and then blacklist the foreign competitor. If the EU wants the leverage to make these sorts of demands, they need to start by giving out a couple million here and there for the competitors they want to see.
spwa4•7mo ago
There is another problem: EU politicians would immediately use this against each other. For example, the Spanish governments in Barcelona and Madrid constantly do anything they can to sabotage each other. And this is not the only such pair. Hell, the French and German governments, the main force behind the whole EU, still hate each other.
fakedang•7mo ago
The amount of dilly-dallying on the Israeli question (which is at the heart of the OP issue also) is enough evidence that the EU is a has-been power - they can't even make up their minds, what with France against the Iran strikes, while Germany likes Israel "doing our dirty work".

And both are centre-right governments to boot! If the White House is the clownshow in the circus, the EU is the acrobatics act.

rat9988•7mo ago
France has been okay with iran strikes
fakedang•7mo ago
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/in-israel-military-action-ag...

You were saying?

anigbrowl•7mo ago
You make some very good arguments, but

EU funded Microsoft to the tune of 234.26 billion USD per year

???

dmoy•7mo ago
Yea that seems like the vast majority of Microsoft's total worldwide revenue for a given year.

The relevant number is probably the EU only fraction, and maybe just the EU governments' part. Which I'd guess is at least like 1/10 or smaller? Idk

flomo•7mo ago
You have a great point, but discussing 'Linux' misses the forest for the trees. American vendors had solutions, European vendors did not. Because you are correct and Europeans don't really value software.

('Linux distros' get into the HN zone where nobody needs dropbox because they could write a shell script. Or install a crappy webmail package on a VPS. Google is entirely Linux and that's not what you are suggesting. It's irrelevant to the larger picture.)

xorcist•7mo ago
It is impossible to analyze the EU without the context of the US. The EU exists because the US allows it to, which wasn't at all obvious in the beginning.

It has been popular lately to complain about European states military spending, which is more than just naive given that NATO decides what can exist and an alternative to NATO would be unrealistic, especially in the shorter term.

If the EU really threatened the US in any manner, that situation would be rectified in a heartbeat. That may sound violent, but it mostly isn't. A lot of it is just the free market at play, but it is a market in harmony with US interests.

HenryBemis•7mo ago
US has never been "good". Listening to Sachs and Measrheimer they keep saying (in these or other words) that "you know a US president is lying because their mouth is moving". Microsoft is just one more cog in the power-hungry apparatus of the US.

And of course they cannot be trusted. (Same applies for Google, Apple and any other entity in the US that can be served with a gag order and a subpoena.

The masks sometimes drop and we see the true face of who is what. And when Microsoft pulls a fast one like that it shows us the real face/where the loyalty is (and it is never to the client).

Aliabid94•7mo ago
The US continues to burn its soft power capital to defend Israel - this guy was only targeted because of his investigations on Israeli war crimes.
dybber•7mo ago
Danish digitization ministry will soon attempt a move away from Microsoft because of this. We can only hope that this is only the first step, and that broader move away from US tech companies will follow.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/13/danish_department_dum...

mikewarot•7mo ago
I see it as strong evidence we should all run our own servers. Internet Access instead of internet connectivity needs to end.

It is possible using IPv6 to make end to end connections without having to do weird hole punching through NAT, etc.

boredatoms•7mo ago
Each house with its own ASN
cnames•7mo ago
I’m in the U.S. and don’t want to rely on this stuff either, but I don’t know that I’d really trust any sufficiently complex software. Anything can be compromised. Even if you build from source, your compiler might be compromised, or you buy a cool new usb peripheral and plug it in- boom! Compromised. Bought a new device? Compromised already. That printer you bought years ago? Compromised and in your secure wireless network. Your sniffer and firewall? Compromised. Firefox? Compromised. Tor? Compromised. Wikileaks? Compromised. Your dishwasher? Compromised. You drive out in the woods without any devices and live in a tent. Hiker comes along and takes photos. You and tent are compromised. Walking out in the middle of nowhere naked hiding under a bush my ass.
GTP•7mo ago
Of course you can't protect yourself from everything. But you can still pick a reasonable threat model and act accordingly.
fsflover•7mo ago
> Anything can be compromised.

This sounds like security nihilism: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27897975

> Even if you build from source, your compiler might be compromised

This problem can be solved by the bootstrappable builds: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41368835

> or you buy a cool new usb peripheral and plug it in- boom! Compromised.

This is why Qubes OS has been developed (my daily driver). It isolated the usb devices into a separate VM.

> Your sniffer and firewall? Compromised.

Try security through compartmentalization: Qubes OS. Last time a VM escape in the modern Qubes implementation was discovered in 2006 by the Qubes founder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Pill_(software)

xvilka•7mo ago
Same about GitHub, it's better to push for federated or truly decentralized system instead, like in Forgejo's roadmap [1]. This way everyone can benefit instead of ceding control to a sole organization wherever it might be.

[1] https://codeberg.org/forgejo-contrib/federation/src/branch/m...

pfdietz•7mo ago
The US could save an enormous amount of money if the US military were sized to defend the US and only the US.
mbac32768•7mo ago
I can see the Microsoft board room meeting now.

A: The Europeans grow restless that we are suspending email accounts of Trump's political enemies.

B: What are they going to do, host their own email servers?

[maniacal cackling]

MPSFounder•7mo ago
Europe is very pro-Israel. You act as if you have been champions of human rights and a subjugated people like the Palestinians. As far as I know, Ireland is the only exception. Israel could have executed Greta on camera and the Swedish embassy would have sent a strong worded letter. Europe has no power whatsoever in any of this
h1fra•7mo ago
https://archive.ph/tjJgW
yahoozoo•7mo ago
Israel strikes again.
piskov•7mo ago
Nah, everybody watched closely what happened to Russia.
yahoozoo•7mo ago
Hm? This is because the ICC issued a warrant for Netanyahu. Israel is very influential in the Trump administration which is why the USA did this. It says this in the article.
iammjm•7mo ago
Disgusting. Yet another reason for Europe to ditch US-tech. Its also interesting to see how the US managed within a couple of month to destroy its trust, influence and soft-power it has built over many decades. Kinda like Musk did, but on a nation-wide scale. the orange emperor truly has a talent for wrecking anything he touches. maga all the way baby
dismalaf•7mo ago
Did everyone miss the last line of the article and/or is everyone unaware of the fact this particular prosecutor has been suspended and is being investigated by the police for rape? Kind of pertinent to the story...

His official work email was suspended because he's suspended from the organization...

boston_clone•7mo ago
Impertinent and disingenuous if you pay attention to the timeline; the EO was issued in February. The ICC has changed internal policies, and other members of the body sanctioned post-hoc have not had their email accounts suspended. The sexual misconduct allegations surfaced in May.
dismalaf•7mo ago
The sexual assault allegations were reported internally at the ICC last year.

Look at this article discussing the allegations, by AP, from last year: https://apnews.com/article/war-crimes-international-criminal...

boston_clone•7mo ago
Thank you for providing that context. My follow up question is do you think that had any pertinence towards the issuance of that particular executive order and subsequent suspension of their email account? Or, is it perhaps a persuasive nugget put in there to lend mild credibility to what Trump is doing?
hk1337•7mo ago
I missed it because it was at the very end so thanks for pointing it out.

Sounds like Trump’s EO had nothing to do with with suspending the account?

> Microsoft said the decision to suspend Mr. Khan’s email had been made in consultation with the I.C.C. The company said it had since enacted policy changes that had been in the works before the episode to protect customers in similar geopolitical situations in the future. When the Trump administration sanctioned four additional I.C.C. judges this month, their email accounts were not suspended, the company said.

croes•7mo ago
> The company said it had since enacted policy changes that had been in the works before the episode to protect customers in similar geopolitical situations in the future. When the Trump administration sanctioned four additional I.C.C. judges this month, their email accounts were not suspended, the company said.

That sounds exactly like it was because of Trump‘s EO but MS doesn’t want to do it anymore

aaomidi•7mo ago
ICC could’ve suspended his email themselves if they wanted to. Microsoft corp didn’t need to be included.
croes•7mo ago
Rape allegations? Reminds me of Assange.

And he also lost his bank account, that’s hardly because of the allegations

pentamassiv•7mo ago
He is not being investigated for rape. The article says "sexual misconduct"
dismalaf•7mo ago
Read other articles about the accusations themselves. It's rape.
aaomidi•7mo ago
Even if so, do rapists not get email accounts anymore?
cheema33•7mo ago
> His official work email was suspended because he's suspended from the organization...

At my organization, if an employee is suspended, I don't expect Microsoft to manage it. We have to do it ourselves. It is different elsewhere?

aaomidi•7mo ago
Microsoft should’ve sued the government instead of immediately complying.
6c696e7578•7mo ago
Should. Yes. But disappointing agent Krasnov will cost you future government business.
timsh•7mo ago
not trying to justify it even a bit, but shouldn't people in his position (actively acting against the US-supported position) use something more secure? Like proton for starters?

I think most of the activists know the drill (not to use gmail/outlook/icloud... in their activism-related communications).

makeitdouble•7mo ago
They're not activists, but a 900 people intergovernmental org representing 100+ countries that needs to deal with a lot of bureaucracy efficiently.

They might start spending the time and money to move away from Microsoft's control, but there's few solutions that reliably work at that scale and for their needs, and I honestly wouldn't fault them for assuming that the arrangement that worked for decades wouldn't suddenly fall apart.

bjackman•7mo ago
I think that's just another side of the same coin.

Until recently I'm sure people at the heart of the western political establishment saw the US as essentially trustworthy with regard to fundamental things like not stealing their emails.

Just like they wouldn't have expected the executive to deny them access to the product. Now it's clear expectations need to be updated.

Not great news for the US tech industry...

modzu•7mo ago
about as shocking as if a russian company did the same. if you dont get it yet, do you get it now?
kergonath•7mo ago
Except that one is an ally and presumably the leader of the free world or something like that. The other is an aggressive dictatorial kleptocracy. So yeah, just as shocking.
gentle•7mo ago
https://archive.is/QIvhV

US tech dominance has long been seen as a benefit and this administration is ruining that position.

chii•7mo ago
> this administration is ruining that position.

this administration is ruining many things. China doesnt even have to fight to win new soft power - the US is doing it to themselves.

bigyabai•7mo ago
Agent Krasnov, mission accomplished.
slt2021•7mo ago
Hanlon's razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
jmyeet•7mo ago
This administration is destroying US soft power in a way that no rival could ever have imagined possible. The big winner here is China.

DOGE? Absolutely performative. Even things like USAID are a trival amount of money and miss the point that it's a very cheap way of getting influence. Plus I'm sure there's some CIA money buried in there too.

Abusing the power in such a trivial manner like suspending this account does nothing but hasten this downfall.

It's always worth adding that 20+ years ago the US passed a law colloquially known as the "Hage Invasion Act" [1], which not only authorized but requires the US to invade the Hage if ever any US servicemember are brought up on charges to the ICC. And this extends to servicemembers and leaders of allies.

Empires don't die quietly or quickly. This is going to be long, drawn out and chaotic.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Pr...

dudeinjapan•7mo ago
In the late 90's Microsoft suspended my email, thepimp@hotmail.com, with no warning or possibility to recover. We should view this latest ICC prosecutor suspension as part of a much larger, more sinister pattern.
3eb7988a1663•7mo ago
Do not know why this personal tragedy is so funny to me. Continue to let that fury burn.
nickdothutton•7mo ago
Europe had a plan after they learned Merkel’s blackberry contents were going to Fort Meade, but they never enacted it. They planned their own MS Office (and email) replacement. Even got as far as scouting data centre sites and identifying first 40M accounts.
snickerbockers•7mo ago
The EU seems to have a problem with the whole "talk is cheap" thing. They're always making grand announcements of new initiatives like this but they hardly ever materialize.
nickdothutton•7mo ago
The EU is not a delivery organisation. They are not “do-ers”. In fact there are almost zero “do-ers” in the organisation. It’s all “talkers”.
triknomeister•7mo ago
Because they plan before implementation. They don't trust grassroot efforts in most work. While this works well for them in classically established fields, it makes them fall flat on their faces in anything that requires experimentation with scaling.

Europe only has two modes: 1. Time-limited research funding (which funds basic sciences) 2. Classical "planned" funding (which funds classical industries)

Both are symptoms of low-risk taking ability, the first one is bound on risk by time, the second one by planning. It doesn't have any institution that it can trust that can hand out funding which creates a bridge between the two. The real reason is that there's no EU-wide institution that has the trust and power of the EU-wide population for that purpose. And the fractured democracy is part of the reason for that.

6c696e7578•7mo ago
Which part of Europe? There's plenty of alternatives for off the shelf, or self hosted mail. An oldie, but still good is gmx for mail.
nickdothutton•7mo ago
The EU planned an alternative to GSuite, including mail. The full office portfolio, after the Merkel thing.
fuzzy2•7mo ago
Do we know by now whether this was an Office 365 enterprise account or a regular "Hotmail" (Outlook.com) account?
buyucu•7mo ago
This is why my company will never, ever use any Microsoft product.
shswkna•7mo ago
Get angry at Europe, not Microsoft and USA.

Europeans live in a fairy land dream and need to wake up.

bigyabai•7mo ago
I can perfectly well blame my home country of America for this. This is terrible business policy that destroys America's business advantages with unjustifiable federal overreach.

That's an issue with America. For all American businesses.

kspacewalk2•7mo ago
No one's angry. This just gives a bigger impetus to de-Americanizing the tech stack. I've recently taken part in a decision at our university to use a non-US based cloud storage provider for some relatively sensitive health data. The risk is just too high, and justifies paying a slight premium elsewhere. Sadly we're not likely to migrate away from Office 365 over here, but for any new vendor decisions, US now definitely equals premium for risk of fuckery.
smpretzer•7mo ago
What should we be getting angry at Europe for in this context?
Lariscus•7mo ago
Not seeing this coming, I guess. IT experts where warning of this for years but where essentially ridiculed instead. I still blame the US for backstabbing their allies though.
hermanzegerman•7mo ago
The Trade Balance between the US and Europe was very balanced if you included services. So the US wasn't getting ripped off in Trade.

The dumb actions by the current US Administrations give the EU a big incentive now to buy their services elsewhere in the future, so Trumps fever dream about the disbalance might come true thanks to his own actions

StefanBatory•7mo ago
It's funny seeing Americans start to repeat Russian line of thought.

"Who allowed you to live like that"...

creatonez•7mo ago
Not surprising that the biggest tech companies are complicit in the biggest war crimes and atrocities of a generation. In the 1940s it was IBM providing holocaust tabulation machines. In the 2020s, it's companies like Microsoft providing the tech infrastructure for AI-assisted targeting and pervasive surveillance in the ongoing Gaza holocaust.
theyinwhy•7mo ago
As always, it's Palantir: https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/palantir...
whimsicalism•7mo ago
can we stick with the word genocide? i don't understand the need to make constant comparisons with the holocaust - they only undermine the point in my mind and are unnecessarily incendiary. it feels to me to be a product of a certain style of left-wing oneupsmanship
ChrisArchitect•7mo ago
Month old news.

Some previous discussions:

Microsoft blocked the email account of Chief Prosecutor of the ICC

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44039719

Microsoft's ICC blockade: digital dependence comes at a cost

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44032717

zombiwoof•7mo ago
Israel can do no wrong apparently
benced•7mo ago
Perhaps Europe should try building their own tech industry so they have fewer problems like this.
sschueller•7mo ago
Europe needs to stop selling its tech industry to non-European companies.
whimsicalism•7mo ago
yeah, the problem Europe faces is insufficient barriers to foreign capital.
Quarrelsome•7mo ago
the EU does. US corps acquire most of our successful companies.
Towaway69•7mo ago
Having worked in the startup scene in Europe, the main exit strategy was to sell off to the American original - because most European startups were copycats of their American counterparts.

So I won’t say it’s all just the US coming in and buying everything up. It was partly European investors wanting to make a profit.

Quarrelsome•7mo ago
sure but that's a consequence of US firms having that capital. Ultimately all investors and owners want an exit, if not as a strategy, eventually as a retirement plan. It's just that US firms buying you out is the most likely exit in this world.

But the point remains that the EU also innovates. So to suggest that it doesn't and its reliance on US tech is somehow its own fault for not trying, is missing the detail.

snickerbockers•7mo ago
How on earth does the ICC plan to arrest Netanyahu or Putin? Even if one of them does make the mistake of setting foot in a compliant country, do they really think arresting a foreign head of state wouldn't be seen as an act of war?
layer8•7mo ago
The ICC doesn’t arrest anyone themselves, they issue arrest warrants. The 125 ICC signatory states are required to comply with the warrants under the Rome Statute.
snickerbockers•7mo ago
that doesn't answer the question.
layer8•7mo ago
The ICC acts under the Rome Statute. Strictly speaking, it isn’t concerned about whether arrests succeed or not, that’s not its job. Its job is to investigate and (if possible) perform trials.

You don’t stop investigating war crimes and bring charges just because the accused is currently unavailable. The latter may change, and has already changed in the past. Furthermore, the mere act of investigating can already put pressure on the investigated.

snickerbockers•7mo ago
Are they a court or a historical society? Surely they don't operate under the premise that they will never have an opportunity to fulfill their own mandate?

Netanyahu or Putin accidentally wandering into a hostile country sounds like a ludicrous scenario but if that ever happens to any signatory they are treaty-bound to arrest him and extradite him to The Hague. What's the plan for dealing with the blowback? Either the host country violates the Rome statute or they have initiated a war with a hostile, well-armed foreign entity.

boredatoms•7mo ago
I cant see the Azure salespeople in EU having a good day after this
crazygringo•7mo ago
It looks like Microsoft is doing everything it can to avoid repeating this in the future:

> Microsoft said the decision to suspend Mr. Khan’s email had been made in consultation with the I.C.C. The company said it had since enacted policy changes that had been in the works before the episode to protect customers in similar geopolitical situations in the future. When the Trump administration sanctioned four additional I.C.C. judges this month, their email accounts were not suspended, the company said.

> Microsoft and other U.S. companies have sought to reassure European customers. On Monday, Satya Nadella, Microsoft’s chief executive, visited the Netherlands and announced new “sovereign solutions” for European institutions, including legal and data security protections for “a time of geopolitical volatility.” Amazon and Google have also announced policies aimed at European customers.

kylecazar•7mo ago
In related news, the Danish government announced the switch to Linux this month, apparently to protect their sovereignty.

https://politiken.dk/viden/tech/art10437680/Caroline-Stage-u...

rbc•7mo ago
This clearly shows the risk of letting someone else run your email services.
Padriac•7mo ago
Completely appropriate.
p2detar•7mo ago
One more reason our on premises products and services, in the European company I work for, have a bright future.