Seems like AI-assisted coding space is splitting in 2:
1) tools and services that aim mostly at prototyping and are close to no-code; most useful for users like PMs or very early stage entrepreneurs who just need to have something to show/share
2) professional tools that target “serious” developers who are already working on bigger/more complex code bases
Interesting that Claude is going after both. 1) with this new feature, and 2) with pretty much all their other services
Still hoping someone builds the App Store for custom GPTs where we don't have to worry about payment and user infrastructure. Happy giving up a percentage for that butnot30percentguys.
I wouldn't feel comfortable comparing that to the 30% i-wonder-who takes for providing a store to download packages that then run on the edge.
(And fwiw, all of them should be able to take any percentage they want. It's only an issue if there is no other option)
Why buy into saas tooling if you can just slap something together - that you fully own - with something like this?
- Thing should work reliably (and you want someone else to be responsible for fixing it if it doesn't)
- Security
- Most SaaS is sufficiently complex that an LLM cannot implement it
Could imagine a single universal app builder just charging a platform fee for support, or some business model along those lines. (Again, in the limit, I'm not sure that support would be too necessary)
What if the outage is specifically that AI_agent cant reach [thing]?
We already saw some examples of this in Anthropic's safety papers - the AI will reach out to the human to get help with that - essentially using a human as an API/tool.
B2C SaaS will have more challenge the easier it gets to create things, but consumers have always been fickle anyway.
I'd say B2B SaaS is mostly safe, partially because they want the support and don't want to have to maintain it.
Today we have open-source versions of a lot of SaaS products, but the proprietary ones are still in business, mostly for that reason IME.
all systems require support and upkeep... nobody wants to do it.
this is delivering what no-code promised us.
Only works if both app producer and user are in the Claude ecosystem
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44380745
Basically the bot shows the human the right UI at the right time as they work.
But with AI that model is just totally broken because the running cost is so high.
If I have half a million people come play my silly AI game that I have no wish to monetise - I am gonna be POOR very fast.
Log in with [insert ai vendor here] is something I’ve been hoping would happen for a while.
Also I reckon the cost of running a text chatbot is basically peanuts now (that is, for a giant tech company with piles of hard cash to burn to keep the server farm warm)
Also I'm expecting some revenue share if I'm bringing users to spend money with Anthropic API.
If I create something, others can can use with their account, what’s my value?
So for an API call that costs $0.50, the end user is charged $1; and from that AI API earns $0.50, the webapp creator earns $0.40 and the host earns $0.10.
I'm trying this out with https://codeplusequalsai.com right now but it's not clear to me yet that it will take off!
But clearly, the value to you should be that you could earn $ based on the token usage from end-users.
As a developer, you probably want to access to the right models for your app rather than being locked in.
More of my notes here: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/25/ai-powered-apps-with-c...
I'm amused that Anthropic turned "we added a window.claude.complete() function to Artifacts" into what looks like a major new product launch, but I can't say it's bad marketing for them to do that!
WXLCKNO•3h ago
No persistent storage and other limitations make it just a toy for now but we can imagine how people will just create their own Todo apps, gym logging apps and whatever other simple thing.
no external API access currently but when that's available or app users can communicate with other app users, some virality is possible for people who make the best tiny apps.
handfuloflight•3h ago
What stops you from wiring it up to your endpoints that handle that?
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headcanon•2h ago
With that said, I'm sure there are a lot of power users who are loving the lower barrier to creation
meistertigran•2h ago
The only downside was not being able to access the apps from other devices, so I ended up creating a tool to make them online accessible and sync the data, while using the same localStorage API. It's actually pretty neat.
sharemywin•1h ago
weather, todo list, shopping list, research tasks, email someone, summarize email, get latest customized news, RSS feed summary, track health stats, etc.
SonomaSays•1h ago
Build a thing that does a complex thing elegantly (Some Deep Research Task) that is non trivial for others to setup, but many people want it.
Charge a direct access in a traditional sense [$5 per project] -- but then have the Customer link their API to the execution cost - so they basically are paying for:
"Go here and pay HN $5 to output this TASK, charge my API to get_it_done" This could be a seriously powerful tool for the Digital Consulting Services industry.
(I mean that is what its model for)
So this begs the question, will Anthropic be building in a payments mechanism for such to happen?
throwaway7783•1h ago