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Ask HN: Laid-off devs who left tech?

10•phendrenad2•3h ago
It's been almost 3 years since the post-covid tech layoffs began. And the tech job market has steadily gotten worse since then. So now is a good time to check in on the state of out-of-work devs. Specifically, if you have left tech as your main job, what do you do now? And do you work on personal projects or a tech-related side hustle? Are you looking to jump back into tech when things improve, or have you found something better?

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abnercoimbre•3h ago
Our tech sector in general is in hot water, but gamedevs are getting massacred [0].

The stories I hear is they're taking on contracting work to survive, risking it all as an indie, or going into manufacturing (typically as quality assurance managers.) That last one seems surprising, but it's more common than you'd think.

Source: I run a community full of gamedevs.

[0] https://www.gamesindustry.biz/topics/layoffs

almosthere•2h ago
I would like to know one thing about the games industry - are one reason AAA game releases dropped off a cliff is remote work?

Reason I say is that as soon as Covid hit, it seems like the triple As just stopped - which makes no sense because all they did was hire. I have to assume it's like the companies I worked at: All of a sudden people's individual life at home was more important than work - EVEN during work hours.

No one was able to get the missile shooting animation done for 8 days because their wife had tons of appointments and the dogs need walking and grocery trips... non-stop excuses. And then eventually no one wanted to work because no one else was. Hence the year of "quiet quitting".

detaro•2h ago
Hiring lots of people and setting grander goals (because you have lots of money and just hired tons of people) is an excellent way of slowing development down for a while, it doesn't make things go faster.

Bigger projects take longer, and many studios chased bigger and better, instead of aiming smaller. Which then meant that these things had to be standout hits to be considered successful, which puts more pressure on perfecting everything, which takes more time, ...

Then many studios have stories of either deep direction changes or large projects being cancelled as the money wasn't as available anymore and trends shifted. E.g. Sony alone has probably spent over a billion and multiple years of work of several studios on live-service games that they then scrapped, Dragon Age Veilguard pivoted a few times (and ended up a mess as a result), ... stories like that across the AAA space.

almosthere•2h ago
I was ready to go into construction (which I actually enjoy) but I just got an offer today for a lower pay remote tech job. The only reason I got this job is because the company can only hire US citizens.

I wouldn't be surprised if a large portion of devs have gone hard nationalist after Biden's tech layoffs. (Zirp ending + S174 left to wither during Biden)

giantg2•29m ago
I don't think people are really going hard nationalist. But it does seem like the offshoring has increased over the past 5 years. Im probably going to lose my job in part because offshore has essentially eliminated the internal job moves available to me so I can't get off a shitty team.

Everything keeps getting automated or shipped overseas. It's hard to be optimistic for my kids to have good job opportunities when they grow up.

lordkrandel•1h ago
The layoffs affected mostly the US market. In EU, there never has been an excess of salaries or hiring, so it's almost just bad as usual. You don't see much "funding" and "VC"s here. If you wanna stay on the market, you better have positive cash flow. In Italy, salaries are about 1/4 of what's overseas, it is very hard to job hop, those who do are seen as opportunistic people. So, you feel this slightly less.

All this AI marketing thing is another thing that is specific about Silicon Valley and investments, and "growth". In EU, you don't have much growth, and that's all.

I guess the US tech market has been drugged on free cash for too long, to even have an idea of what the real world is.

lordkrandel•1h ago
P.S. No moral judgement intended. Just different context, different bubbles and conditions.

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