refusal to administer further shocks was considered disobedient, i think sample size was too small to observe the type that turns dial to 31 immediately, keeps twisting a bit to make sure there is no 32 hiding at the end, and furiously mash the button like a video game, while laughing.
last time i read up on it, you need about 1000 individuals before you encounter a definate psychopath.
PaulHoule•2h ago
I think the point of the Milgram experiment was that you could pressure ordinary people to go too far, not that there is a 1-5% population of "psychopaths"
what I find interesting though is that Freud's (non-Freudian) interpretation of sadism seems obscure in the west although it is definitely part of the schema of Japanese pornography. [1] That is, the sadist feels that they an agent of justice (will write 正 on the body of the victim) whether the victim's sin is something most people would recognize as sinful such as "being an email spammer" or "getting drunk at a party and acting like a boor" or something most would be puzzled by such as "dressing like a dork" or "being naive" or something marginal like "gave a lecture about a topic they didn't understand." Whatever it is, the sadist feels like the victim deserved the treatment they got.
rolph•3h ago
refusal to administer further shocks was considered disobedient, i think sample size was too small to observe the type that turns dial to 31 immediately, keeps twisting a bit to make sure there is no 32 hiding at the end, and furiously mash the button like a video game, while laughing.
last time i read up on it, you need about 1000 individuals before you encounter a definate psychopath.
PaulHoule•2h ago
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10....
what I find interesting though is that Freud's (non-Freudian) interpretation of sadism seems obscure in the west although it is definitely part of the schema of Japanese pornography. [1] That is, the sadist feels that they an agent of justice (will write 正 on the body of the victim) whether the victim's sin is something most people would recognize as sinful such as "being an email spammer" or "getting drunk at a party and acting like a boor" or something most would be puzzled by such as "dressing like a dork" or "being naive" or something marginal like "gave a lecture about a topic they didn't understand." Whatever it is, the sadist feels like the victim deserved the treatment they got.
[1] Freud, like French Theory, is "big in Japan"