"To verify “good condition,” products may be required to undergo a diagnostic check using a customer’s iPhone or iPad, or at an Apple Store, prior to being added to the plan."
Do you think this means it covers Mac too, or just that you can buy it on a Mac but only for other devices, as mentioned below:
...AppleCare One extends that same reliability and makes it easier than ever to protect the products you love and depend on like iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch...
Apple’s strategy seems to be intently towards getting it in the hands of AR devs and the ultra wealthy. The human intensity of their demos sort of precludes a mass-market strategy.
- My iPhone is currently covered by apple care with the upgrade program but it does not have loss or theft, which would be an additional $4.16 a month (normally $10 a month)
- My Mac: $3.49 a month (doesnt include loss or theft)
- My iPad: $4.99
- Apple Watch: $2.99
- 2 different airpods, $15 a year each. $30 a year total. Roughly $2.50 a month
This is not including any homepods or apple tv's since I just don't see the point.
Even ignoring the difference in price with the upgrade program the best I can get for 3 devices would be iPhone + iPad + Mac coming to $18.
The $5.99 for adding more devices is more than every device except for an iPhone outside of the upgrade program.
The only people I really see benefiting are those with Apple Vision Pro since that is $25 a month. What am I missing about their calculation for this saving money?
I got all of these numbers from this page: https://www.apple.com/applecare/
I've personally never had AppleCare on anything (even phones).
Thank you. The name was shaming me into ironing a shirt for a formal event :)
More malicious compliance.
So that's two wrong points in a row? Not sure where you're getting your information from.
I'd also like to pay just for the part, not for receiving the tools and sending them back...
I also don’t use a case or screen protector on my phone fwiw
Internally that policy was called “getting to yes” and it was a huge pain in the ass.
The idea: customer comes in with a broken screen. You surprise and delight them by getting a manager’s override on the cost. You say you can make an exception because it’s the first time, but the next screen will cost x.
The reality: customer comes in expecting free repairs. Any charge is an argument. Their cousin dropped like 5 phones in the toilet and they were all replaced for free, etc. It sucked.
I don't remember a "getting to yes" era, especially when I brought in my old MagSafe 2 charger whose cable insulation had worn out because of the type of plastic Apple used, spilling blue stuff all over my space.
All the Genius Bars I went to (in multiple countries) gaslit and blamed it on me storing my MagSafe charger wrongly, even though this was obviously Apple's fault. I wish I could have been surprised and delighted instead.
I still have it in a plastic bag somewhere, rotting away.
In the realm of consumer electronics, why would you pay the premium if you can afford to replace the device? Unless, of course, you know you're prone to losing or breaking things.
Applecare+ for an iPhone seems to run at about 80% of the device cost over 5 years, however if you were likely to buy a new device after 5 years anyhow then short of fully losing your new devices every 2.7 years (or replacing the screen every 8 months or so) you're at a financial loss to go with the insurance compared to just buying new devices when the need arises.
I know that my MacBook and phone batteries wear out (<80%) pretty quick, and a single free replacement with AppleCare would pretty much let me break even on cost.
It’s a psychological thing I think. People will balk at paying $400 upfront to cover their Macbook for three years but $20 per month? No problem!
Can I add my family’s devices to my AppleCare One plan?
AppleCare One plans can cover devices that are on the same Apple Account as the subscriber.
(Or, Apple could fix the larger issue which is that subscriptions for family members can only be managed from the family member's account/device, despite being shared with the family)
I stick through the hassle cause when Google killed Google Play Music I tried out Apple Music by getting on my parents' family sharing and don't mind having one less subscription to pay for as long as they don't care. But it is annoying it puts my account in a state where I can't buy any subscriptions or in-app purchases without it getting charged to daddy's credit card. The workaround I've found is you can go on the Apple Store app/website and gift yourself an Apple gift card and claim it on your account. Then it'll charge to those funds first before the family organizer's credit card.
Then again, when he breaks something, I don’t get to justify buying myself a new one :)
Guess it’s easier to sedate/distract them?
Currently, to get AppleCare after purchase or the 90 day window, you need to go to an Apple store before the warranty expires and ask staff to add it for you. This is never advertised (to my knowledge) but well known. Now they are making it possible to add AppleCare even after warranty expires.
I hate to say this, but no other PC or mobile phone manufacturer is providing warranty service (for consumer hardware) that remotely matches Apple's.
Is it still in this case? You can do the damage by yourself and they still repair. No questions asked.
Maybe, but Apple is also among the worst companies for repairability of their hardware. If a PC (which you mention) breaks is usually only one part to be replaced (without looking at actual repairs), and any individual with necessary know-how can do it
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>With AppleCare One, customers can now add products they already own that are up to four years old1 if they are in good condition.3
>3 To verify “good condition,” products may be required to undergo a diagnostic check using a customer’s iPhone or iPad, or at an Apple Store, prior to being added to the plan.
Applecare's page also says you can get a battery replacement if it's under 80%.
>AppleCare covers battery replacements at no extra charge if the capacity drops below 80 percent.
Does that mean you can enroll in apple care one when your battery is at 81%, wear down the battery life within a month (eg. fast charging/heating it), invoke the battery replacement benefit, and end up with a battery replacement for $20? The normal price for a battery replacement is $99, so this is a significant savings.
It's typically fraud to purchase insurance with an undisclosed pre-existing problem that you know and intend to use said insurance to pay for.
I also have AirPods Pro, iPad, MacMini M4 Pro, and a 2020 MacBook Pro M1 Max.
If this covers my 2020 MacBook Pro M1 Max, iPhone, and MacMini it’s a no brainer.
This depends on how likely you are to make a claim, no? I imagine some clumsy/unlucky people get good value out of their Apple Care plans.
> Gadget/Electronic Device Insurance typically operates with loss ratios between 30% and 60%. This means that 30–60 cents of every premium dollar are paid back out in claims. [0]
In other words, on average people pay twice as much in premiums than they would have without insurance. So you'd need to be way more clumsy/unlucky than average to make it worth it.
Of course, the peace of mind can be valuable too.
[0] https://www.swissre.com/dam/jcr:dfcf4d4a-d6f6-424c-949f-7940...
joshstrange•6mo ago
Just like the Apple One plan (News/Music/Storage/Arcade/etc) it simply doesn't make sense for me at all. I pay for more storage (2TB) and there is no way to make that an add-on, you have to pay the full price for 2TB on top of the Apple One plan. Since I use Spotify and don't care for News+ it's not at all worth it for me.
I have exclusively Apple products (aside from local and cloud Linux servers) and yet Apple's main bundling options make zero sense for me.
kstrauser•6mo ago
Edit: NM. I have the premier plan for my family.
joshstrange•6mo ago
I don't need that plan as an individual but it's the only option and for the things I actually use, it's not a good deal at all for me.
kstrauser•6mo ago