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Tom Lehrer, Musical Satirist with a Dark Streak, Dies at 97

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/27/arts/music/tom-lehrer-dead.html
215•detaro•2h ago

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detaro•2h ago
(reminder that he published all his lyrics and music as public domain a few years ago: https://tomlehrersongs.com/ )
dlcarrier•2h ago
I never would have thought that he was still alive. Until reading the article, I don't think I ever saw a picture of him in color.
SoftTalker•2h ago
Same. I would have guessed he died years ago. Loved his satire.
sitkack•2h ago
What a wonderful soul.

> Reflecting on his bicoastal life in a 1981 interview for Newsday, he said he planned to keep his Massachusetts home “until my brain turns completely to Jell-O, at which time I will of course move to California full time.”

To think he is only a couple years younger than Mel Brooks.

nocoiner•1h ago
Speaking of Jell-O: I have heard, and perhaps this is apocryphal, that Tom Lehrer was the inventor of the Jell-O shot.
kragen•1h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Lehrer

> Lehrer once stated that he invented the Jello shot during this time, as a means of circumventing the base's ban on alcoholic beverages.[18]

18. Boulware, Jack (April 19, 2000). "That Was the Wit That Was". SF Weekly. Archived from the original on November 28, 2018. Retrieved November 27, 2018.

https://web.archive.org/web/20181128164739/https://archives....

Full text at https://web.archive.org/web/20211025111743/https://archives.... for the time being. Save your copy while the Archive still exists!

andrepd•43m ago
He's a great guy, his wikiquote page is a treasure https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Tom_Lehrer
toomuchtodo•2h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Lehrer
serf•2h ago
Some of the most clever songs i've ever heard, and a good person too. RIP.
wslh•2h ago
https://archive.is/89a1G
ForOldHack•2h ago
He is now flying with the pigeons he poisoned. Brilliant lyricist I learned in grade school. Brilliant.
42772827•2h ago
Lehrer taught me, at a young age, that the “division” between music and mathematics was completely arbitrary, that you can be interested in both, and indeed there is significant overlap.

Truly a gift of a person, we were fortunate to have him for nearly a century.

jebarker•44m ago
When I did my maths degree in the UK in the early 00s it was quite popular to do a “Maths and Music” degree that was equally split between the two. I’ve also been a musician all my life so one more sample point!
ComplexSystems•2h ago
Always liked his "Werner Von Braun":

https://youtu.be/QEJ9HrZq7Ro?si=RDu536cWahc2Oct7

nmca•2h ago
I feel the AI safety community has not made enough of Lehrer’s masterpiece on the topic:

https://youtu.be/frAEmhqdLFs?si=DYsY5Juco-kJ5eWD

MBlume•50m ago
I assure you we sing it sometimes!
yuppiemephisto•14m ago
We sung it at solstice
dosinga•2h ago
"In German, oder Englisch, I know how to count down Und I'm learning Chinese!" - as relevant as ever. Maybe less so German and more matrix multiplication
andrepd•1h ago
"'Nazi Schmazi' says Werner von Braun" is an amazing joke
nocoiner•1h ago
Once the rockets go up, who cares where they come down? That’s not my department.
SoftTalker•17m ago
"National Brotherhood Week" is another great one.
seunosewa•1h ago
I loved his wacky songs. He made poisoning pigeons in the park and nuclear proliferation funny.
philodeon•1h ago
He gave a lovely little performance in the late 1990s to celebrate one of his fellow mathematicians:

https://youtu.be/zxFCQplZgKI

dekhn•1h ago
I loved Lehrer growing up- my parents had his record "That Was the Week That Was" which I think is his finest work. Anyway, when I went to college (UCSC), I took his 'Nature of Math' course, which was quite enjoyable. He was a great presenter, I learned all sorts of neat stuff like the the quartic factoring challenge and the pigeonhole principle/birthday paradox (at the time, I didn't know much about hash tables and didn't make the connection).

I almost ended up TA'ing his class the next year but I had to focus on my undergraduate thesis instead. I would have loved to get to know him better, as his sense of humor was incredible.

I also had Ralph Abraham- a chaos theory guy and psychonaut who taught hist class (Nature of Math) in a natural amphitheater- at points, I could almost picture him wearing a toga, lecturing us on greek math.

shiandow•1h ago
Is it to much to ask for a black bar? For reasons I can't articulate I've always considered him a hacker in spirit.
kragen•1h ago
He was a math professor, a secret government cryptographer, a comedian in technically challenging musical-theater forms, and reportedly the inventor of the Jell-O shot.

Stallman says in https://stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html:

> Playfully doing something difficult, whether useful or not, that is hacking. (...) It is hard to write a simple definition of something as varied as hacking, but I think what these activities have in common is playfulness, cleverness, and exploration. Thus, hacking means exploring the limits of what is possible, in a spirit of playful cleverness. Activities that display playful cleverness have "hack value".

However:

> The concept of hacking excludes wit and art as such. The people who began to speak of their activities as "hacking" were familiar with wit and art, and with the names of the various fields of those; they were also doing something else, something different, for which they came up with the name "hacking". Thus, composing a funny joke or a beautiful piece of music may well involve playful cleverness, but a joke as such and a piece of music as such are not hacks, however funny or beautiful they may be. However, if the piece is a palindrome, we can say it is a hack as well as music; if the piece is vacuous, we can say it is a hack on music.

(So I think The Elements qualifies, if barely.)

And with respect to

> Hackers typically had little respect for the silly rules that administrators like to impose, so they looked for ways around.

perhaps we should mention mention the origin story of the Jell-O shot from https://web.archive.org/web/20211025111743/https://archives....:

> A rumor has circulated for years that in the 1950s, Lehrer invented the Jell-O shot, a cup of flavored gelatin infused with booze, which has now become a frat-house favorite. He throws his head back and laughs.

> "That's amazing how that got around! What happened was, I was in the Army for two years, and we were having a Christmas party on the naval base where I was working in Washington, D.C. The rules said no alcoholic beverages were allowed. And we wanted to have a little party, so this friend and I spent an evening experimenting with Jell-O. It wasn't a beverage," he says with a shrug.

> "And we finally decided that orange Jell-O and vodka was the best. We tried gin and vodka and various flavors and stuff -- of course you can't sample too much. So we went over to her apartment and we made all these little cups and we thought I would bring them in, hoping that the Marine guard would say, 'OK, what's in there?' And we'd say, 'Jell-O.' and then he'd say, 'Oh, OK.' But no, he didn't even ask. So it worked. I recommend it. Orange Jell-O."

So, yeah. Definitely a hacker.

etrautmann•1h ago
I grew up with a tape of Tom Leher songs and memorized the periodic table of elements song in middle school, which has mostly stuck with me. I loved his sense of humor - what a wonderful soul.
philodeon•1h ago
As sad as today is, the one ray of sunshine here is that Tom Lehrer’s obit was written so long ago (and saved for the day it would be needed), that no one updated it with the subsequent revelation that his work at the Atomic Energy Commission was actually a cover story for his far more sensitive work at the fledgling National Security Agency.

Seeing the New York Times publish wrong out-of-date information has been funny since Judith Miller.

walterbell•32m ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40439810#40460118
jakedata•1h ago
https://tomlehrersongs.com/

I, Tom Lehrer, individually and as trustee of the Tom Lehrer Trust 2007, hereby grant the following permissions: All copyrights to lyrics or music written or composed by me have been permanently and irrevocably relinquished, and therefore such songs are now in the public domain. All of my songs that have never been copyrighted, having been available for free for so long, are now also in the public domain. In other words, I have abandoned, surrendered and disclaimed all right, title and interest in and to my work and have injected any and all copyrights into the public domain. The permission granted includes all lyrics which I have written to music by others, although the music to such parodies, if copyrighted by their composers, are of course not included without permission of their copyright owners. The translated songs on this website may be found on YouTube in their original languages. Performing and recording rights to all of my songs are included in this permission. Translation rights are also included. In particular, permission is hereby granted to anyone to set any of these lyrics to their own music, or to set any of this music to their own lyrics, and to publish or perform their parodies or distortions of these songs without payment or fear of legal action. Some recording, movie, and television rights to songs written by me are merely licensed non-exclusively by me to recording, movie, or TV companies. All such rights are now released herewith and therefore do not require any permission from me or from Maelstrom Music, which is merely me in another hat, nor from the recording, movie, or TV companies involved. In short, I no longer retain any rights to any of my songs. So help yourselves, and don’t send me any money. NOTICE: THIS WEBSITE WILL BE SHUT DOWN AT SOME DATE IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE, SO IF YOU WANT TO DOWNLOAD ANYTHING, DON’T WAIT TOO LONG. Tom Lehrer November 26, 2022

jcalvinowens•1h ago
I made a git archive of everything a little over a year ago: https://github.com/jcalvinowens/tomlehrer-archive

You can help out by hosting a copy somewhere!

reactordev•1h ago
Doing the lords work…

It’s sad that these things will eventually be lost to centralization and digital aging. Make physical copies as well. How long does the USB standard last?

Think about the music that has been lost to time/death/natural disaster/RIAA

weinzierl•33m ago
Aren't his songs owned by a label? Did he really keep all the rights, so he was able to do what the text above says?

If not, do we know which subset of his work is free?

SoftTalker•23m ago
Sounds like maybe he self-published: "All such rights are now released herewith and therefore do not require any permission from me or from Maelstrom Music, which is merely me in another hat"
jgrahamc•1h ago
In "An Evening Waster With Tom Lehrer" he chats a little between songs and tells a short story about someone who becomes a doctor: "He soon became a specialist, specializing in diseases of the rich. He was therefore able to retire at an early age".

"Diseases of the rich" has always seemed like a useful metaphor for one way to decide on what product you are going to build. Does it heal a "disease" of the "rich"?

MichaelZuo•1h ago
Darn… RIP.
HarHarVeryFunny•1h ago
RIP Mr. Lehrer.

I'd only heard of him from a song of his, "Poisoning pigeons in the park", that has been available on DECtalk since way back.

Searching for this, I just found another of his, "I got it from Agnes", that has also been adapted for DECtalk. Similar dark humor!

https://chordify.net/chords/i-got-it-from-agnes-by-tom-lehre...

philodeon•1h ago
Lehrer performed it charmingly on Parkinson:

https://youtu.be/R6qFG0uop9k

kolinko•1h ago
97 years, wow! I guess he waited to go together with everyone else, and just couldn’t wait any more :)
lb1lf•1h ago
Tom Lehrer has been my go-to source of acerbic wit and brilliant satire since I first encountered him when attending the Norwegian University of Tecnology and Science; a group I joined there held Lehrer in high esteem and I, too, was blown away by how timeless a lot of his songs were; a lot of satire ages very quickly, but chances are my unborn grandchildren will laugh hysterically to 'Who's Next?' or 'Wernher von Braun' after doing the mid-21st century equivalent of googling to find out who WvB was, of course.

Godspeed, Tom. This has been a rough week - three of the heroes of my formative years have checked out of existence - Lehrer, Ozzy and author Ingvar Ambjørnsen. Sigh. Who's next?

howard941•1h ago
We will all go together when we go

https://youtu.be/frAEmhqdLFs?si=iJqkfAUqkHHkkwP2

wisemang•1h ago
“Played piano acceptably.”
walterbell•56m ago
"Why did Tom Lehrer swap fame for obscurity?" (2024), 170 comments, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40439810

"Tom Lehrer releases song lyrics to public domain" (2020), 130 comments, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24833683

"Tom Lehrer at 90: a life of scientific satire" (2018), 80 comments, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16774608

cormorant•51m ago
Richard Severo, the author of this obituary, died two years ago!
wolfi1•37m ago
Does anyone know if there exist videos of his tv shows?
AndrewStephens•13m ago
I used his songs as examples in a web audio project a few months ago - as others have mentioned Lehrer generously put all his music in the public domain making it perfect for use in other projects.

Originally I was going to use one of his albums but I found that his humor still hits hard after all these years, to the extent that I thought the songs would detract from my project. In the end I just used my three favorite song: The Elements, We Will All Go Together When We Go, and the absolutely brutal takedown of Werher Von Braun.

walterbell•9m ago
http://www.crazycollege.org/lehrer.html

  GEO: As a mathematician did you ever make any brilliant discoveries?

  TOM LEHRER: Oh,nonono. I have no desire to extend the frontier of human knowledge; retract them, if anything. I like to teach it and I like to think about it, but that's about it.
nickdothutton•6m ago
We need Tom Lehrer more now, in these times, that ever!
mark_l_watson•5m ago
When I was growing up in the 1960s and 1970s, my father loved Tom Lehrer - had all his records. My brother and I joked about the “sliding down the razor blade of life” lyric a lot.
archagon•4m ago
Rest in peace. This hourlong recording of a concert in Copenhagen is a joy to watch: https://youtu.be/QHPmRJIoc2k

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