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Error code: PR_END_OF_FILE_ERRORAlso the former technologies are local first in theory but without conflict resolution they can break down easily. This has been from my experience making mobile apps that need to be local first, which led me to using CRDTs for that use case.
Native app is installed and available offline by default. Website needs a bunch of weird shenanigans to use AppManifest or ServiceWorker which is more like a bunch of parts you can maybe use to build available offline.
Native apps can just… make files, read and write from files with whatever 30 year old C code, and the files will be there on your storage. Web you have to fuck around with IndexedDB (total pain in the ass), localStorage (completely insufficient for any serious scale, will drop concurrent writes), or OriginPrivateFileSystem. User needs to visit regularly (at least once a month?) or Apple will erase all the local browser state. You can use JavaScript or hit C code with a wrench until it builds for WASM w/ Emscripten, and even then struggle to make sync C deal with waiting on async web APIs.
Apple has offered CoreData + CloudKit since 2015, a completed first party solution for local apps that sync, no backend required. I’m not a Google enthusiast, maybe Firebase is their equivalent? Idk.
How garbage the web has become for a low-latency click action being qualified as "impossibly fast". This is ridiculous.
In 2005 we wrote entire games for browsers without any frontend framework (jQuery wasn't invented yet) and managed to generate responses in under 80 ms in PHP. Most users had their first bytes in 200 ms and it felt instant to them, because browsers are incredibly fast, when treated right.
So the Internet was indeed much faster then, as opposed to now. Just look at GitHub. They used to be fast. Now they rewrite their frontend in react and it feels sluggish and slow.
And decided to drop legacy features such as <a> tags and broke browser navigation in their new code viewer. Right click on a file to open in a new tab doesn’t work.
My favorite so far is Triplit.dev (which can also be combined with TanStack DB); 2 more I like to explore are PowerSync and NextGraph. Also, the recent LocalFirst Conf has some great videos, currently watching the NextGraph one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaadDmZWIzE).
ivape•2h ago
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ivape•1h ago
There’s two types of people in this world - Rubes and Carnies.
mrkeen•39m ago
Who paid you for these comments? Atlassian?
dewey•1h ago
ivape•1h ago
Here I’ll offer my services. I’ll pretend to do a technical deep dive of your app for X amount. No one will know, I’ll just act super interested.
When the fuck did anyone ever go “omg this web app so impressive”, never, ever, never, ever.
dewey•1h ago
Many blog post submissions here are someone diving into something they like, hardware, software, tool etc. and it’s just because people like to share.
theglenn88_•1h ago
Did you apply for a job at Linear and get rejected or something?
I think Linear is impressive, I’m a big fan of local first, I’ve built and app that is local first so this post is actually pretty interesting.
If you don’t like it, move along.
jhy•1h ago
> No API routes. No request/response cycles. No DTOs. Just… objects that magically sync. It kind of feels like cheating.
lambdas•11m ago
> What makes this powerful is that these aren’t just type definitions - they’re live, reactive objects that sync automatically.
Is what twigged my AI radar too. LLM’s seem to really love that summarisation pattern of `{X is/isn’t just Y. Pithy concluding remark}`