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Go 1.22, SQLite, and Next.js: The "Boring" Back End

https://mohammedeabdelaziz.github.io/articles/go-next-pt-2
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Laibach the Whistleblowers [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Mx2mxpaCY
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https://ideasindevelopment.substack.com/p/economists-vs-technologists-on-ai
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Life at the Edge

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RISC-V Vector Primer

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A Tale of Two Standards, POSIX and Win32 (2005)

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GPT-5.3-Codex System Card [pdf]

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Open in hackernews

1948: Catholic Church publishes final edition of “Index Librorum Prohibitorum”

https://historyofinformation.com/detail.php?entryid=856
71•thomassmith65•5mo ago

Comments

Lio•5mo ago
“Down with this sort of thing”

Makes me think that if this list was still published it would have a sort of Father Ted effect[1] and act as a list of books you’d definitely want to read.

1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passion_of_Saint_Tibulus

smackeyacky•5mo ago
In a similar vein, one of my colleagues a few years ago after undergoing workplace sexual harrassment training said "oh learned a couple of new ones"

At the time I hoped he wasn't serious, sometimes it's hard to tell.

tzmudzin•5mo ago
> workplace sexual harrassment training

Well, it’s in the name already. The fact it’s not called “anti-harassment training” always makes me chuckle…

dragonwriter•5mo ago
> Makes me think that if this list was still published it would have a sort of Father Ted effect and act as a list of books you’d definitely want to read.

The Wikipedia article on the Index note that a related list (the _Index Expurgatorius_, which was at the time published separately but later had its function incorporated within the _Index Librorum Prohibitum_, and listed books subject to similar restrictions as the main index but only conditionally pending correction of specified errors) was called out for something like that use -- in 1627.

piaste•5mo ago
Umberto Eco once jokingly lamented the deprecation of the Index, writing that it was a "very handy canon of books one ought to read to call oneself an educated person".
RGamma•5mo ago
Being added to "the index" (Liste der jugendgefährdenden Medien, list of media harmful for youths) was (probably still is) a great marketing vehicle in Germany. While the complete list isn't easy to view (there's secret parts and no official online publication), you would hear about it one way or another.
Lio•5mo ago
As a teenager I read Machiavelli's The Prince with trepidation knowing it was on The List (and me being brought up Catholic).

Afterwards I couldn't really see what the fuss was about.

thomassmith65•5mo ago
Especially since there are similar works of the Catholic church, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Worldly_Wisdom
mwedwards•5mo ago
Perhaps the notion of ‘engineering’ ones legitimacy as a ruler was seen as a challenge to the established notion of legitimacy by divine right. (Esp. the role of the church in conferring that right).
notorandit•5mo ago
As a Catholic I can say that was B.S.

Reading cannot be a sin. Thinking cannot be a sin. Speaking cannot be a sin.

It's a good thing that the index has been abolished in 1966.

umanwizard•5mo ago
In case you care: that the index was abolished in 1966.

Using “has been” here makes it immediately clear that you’re a non-native English speaker, unless you’re speaking some dialect I’m not familiar with.

Usually, we use the perfect (“has been”) with time intervals that include (or asymptotically approach) the present. We use the simple past (“was”) with time intervals or points that are closed and are clearly sepatated from the present.

For example: “I went to Lebanon in 2015”. 2015 is a specific point in time. But if I don’t include a time, I’d say “I’ve been to Lebanon”. Even though this was in the past, the fact that I don’t mention a specific time in the past means it implicitly includes the present, because I’m describing my current state: I’m someone who has been to Lebanon.

And, if I were in Lebanon now, for the first time, I could say “I’ve been to Lebanon”, and then it really does concretely include the present!

To illustrate another edge case: I’d say “my father has never been to Lebanon” but “my grandfather never went to Lebanon”. Because my father is still alive, but my grandfather is dead. So any statements about his life are automatically about a closed interval lying entirely in the past.

adrian_b•5mo ago
I believe that in such a case one can use both "has been abolished in 1966" and "was abolished in 1966", but they mean different things.

"Has been abolished in 1966" says that it was abolished in 1966 and it remains abolished today.

"Was abolished in 1966" says that it was abolished in 1966, but it provides no information about whether it might have been reinstated later and it might continue to be enforced today.

So in this case I believe that the other poster was correct in using "has been abolished in 1966".

dragonwriter•5mo ago
> "Has been abolished in 1966" says that it was abolished in 1966 and it remains abolished today.

That meaning would be expressed as "has been abolished since 1966", unless it is still 1966 when the idea is being expressed, in which case "has been abolished in 1966" works instead; "has been abolished" is a present perfect (passive voice) construction so "in <past time period>" doesn't make sense with it, while "since <past time period>" or "in <current time period>" does.

umanwizard•5mo ago
Absolutely not, you can never say “has been abolished in 1966” in standard American English (and I’m 99% sure the same is true of standard British English). The sibling poster is correct that you can say “has been abolished since 1966”, though.
dragonwriter•5mo ago
> Using “has been” here makes it immediately clear that you’re a non-native English speaker,

Specifically, using the combination "has been ... in". Either "was abolished in" (simple past in the passive voice) or "has been abolished since" (present perfect in the passive voice) would work (simple past describing the event of abolition, past perfect describing the continuous state of having been abolished from the point of that event up until and continuing through the present moment) would work.

umanwizard•5mo ago
Yes, you’re right.
pawelkobojek•5mo ago
Not sure why are you getting downvoted but I wanted to express my appreciation of comments like this. Being a non-native speaker I’ve been struggling with nuances like that one and native speakers I encounter hardly ever want to correct my errors, likely because they don’t want to come across as rude.
ahoka•5mo ago
They still don't allow condoms to be used. They are the bullshit.
karlgkk•5mo ago
> Reading cannot be a sin. Thinking cannot be a sin. Speaking cannot be a sin.

the catholic church is an ancient institution that believes it is the continuing ministry of jesus christ. and thus, it is not beholding to purely biblical rules - but also tradition.

indeed, sin is an "utterance, deed, or desire" that offends God. the concept of sin is that it is abhorrent, and caused by concupiscence.

the ccc (catcheism) indeed has a definition for sin and does not specify what is or isn't sin directly - but rather through the above criteria, both biblical and traditional. and it is defined and ruminated upon by those who are the apostles (bishops) via the magisterium, which is their upholding of this

which is to say,

reading can be a sin - if those works are abhorrent to god, the bible, or the tradition of the church

thinking can be a sin - if those thoughts are abhorrent to god, the bible, or the tradition of the church

speaking can be a sin - if those words are abhorrent to god, the bible, or the tradition of the church

and boy howdy, if those fuckin jesusmonks put together a book of read-sins and by the magisterium and the tradition of the church, then reading them is a sin. sorry about your religion

graemep•5mo ago
The thing is what works, thoughts or speaking is abhorrent?

It would have to be something sinful in itself, so, for example, planning a murder is clearly a sin, although only a thought. Taking pleasure is someone else's suffering is also a sin.

Reading to learn, honest thoughts, and honest speech cannot be sins. I think those are what the post you are replying to had in mind.

ivape•5mo ago
God-denial is a big deal in the Bible. I recommend people do a small survey on what happened to entire people(s) when they pursued God-denial in the Old Testament.

With that said, doubt is part of faith, and exploration of that is just an articulation and not outright denial. I would bucket “honest confusion” the same way. To be confused in the desert is to be confused in the desert, akin to throwing a non-swimmer into water. The confusion before faith (before swimming) is okay, I believe. That’s all I can postulate from my own meditation.

Anyway, we have to always remember that Christ went toe-to-toe against his own religion. These Christian denominations must always know Christ will reject them outright if they are misinterpreting (and how could anyone think otherwise is beyond me, going up against Judaism was his first major imperative).

He was a very serious activist, beyond.

graemep•5mo ago
> God-denial is a big deal in the Bible. I recommend people do a small survey on what happened to entire people(s) when they pursued God-denial in the Old Testament.

Have you drawn the correct conclusions from that? It is certainly not the conclusion the Catholic Church draws which is what we are discussing here. You may think the Catholic church wrong about this, but that is a different argument.

> going up against Judaism was his first major imperative

Everything he said and taught was in the context of the Jewish tradition. He said "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them" - Matthew 5:17

dkiebd•5mo ago
I envy modern Christians for their ability to make up their faith by pretending the scriptures don’t exist. “I was taught that Jesus is love, therefore, if it makes me happy or gives me pleasure it can’t be a sin”
ysofunny•5mo ago
there is no way I gotta stop thinking if your head hurts
sapphicsnail•5mo ago
Imagine thinking that Jesus wants you to be like the legalistic Pharisees of his time.
dkiebd•5mo ago
One has to read the scripture. In many cases we are talking about things that were clearly defined as sins in the scripture. Just read the scripture instead of making up the rules.
lurquer•5mo ago
Are you suggesting the scriptures do not obligate church leaders to protect the flock from heresy?

1 Timothy 6:20–21 – “O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding the profane novelties of words and oppositions of knowledge falsely so called, which some professing have erred concerning the faith.”

2 Timothy 4:3–4 – Warns of people turning from truth to myths, implying leaders must protect them from such influences.

Titus 1:9–11 – Bishops must “stop the mouths” of those teaching error, which includes preventing their works from spreading.

Acts 20:28–31 – Paul warns the Ephesian elders to guard the flock from false teachers who will arise “speaking perverse things.”

2 John 1:10–11 – “If any man come to you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him, God speed you.”

Romans 16:17 – Mark and avoid those who cause doctrinal divisions; a list of banned works is a formal way of “marking” them.

Acts 19:19 – New converts in Ephesus publicly burn their occult books after coming to the faith.

Deuteronomy 13:1–5 – False prophets and their influence must be eradicated from the midst of the people.

Etc, etc, etc.

dkiebd•5mo ago
Are you giving a list of things that support what I said?
lurquer•5mo ago
Perhaps there was some ambiguity in your post. The verses speak for themselves. If they support your views, good.
majoe•5mo ago
"Just read the scripture" is not enough. Catholics are supposed to use the historical critical method, when interpreting texts from the bible. There are other Christian groups, which take the bible verbatim, but Catholicism is none of them.

For that and other reasons there are plenty of things presented in the old testament as sins, which Christians don't consider to be sins. The most obvious example is probably rules around kosher food.

graemep•5mo ago
> “I was taught that Jesus is love, therefore, if it makes me happy or gives me pleasure it can’t be a sin”

That is a straw man. I am sure you can find some one who says that somewhere out of billions of Christians, but it is effectively something no one says.

dkiebd•5mo ago
They don’t say it literally like that, but they say stuff that boils down to that. People who live wicked lifestyles are tolerated or even celebrated because obviously Jesus loves everybody (He really doesn’t).
graemep•5mo ago
"Love your neighbour as yourself"

Nothing in there about "only if they meet certain moral standards".

I do agree that celebrating people because they do things that contradict Christ teachings (most commonly for accumulating wealth) is wrong.

dkiebd•5mo ago
Everything but reading the scriptures, huh? They are much deeper than “love your neighbour” I can assure you. It’s a thick book.
1718627440•5mo ago
I think the meaning of love in christianity is very different from what more secular people think it is. For example it does not preclude sending someone to prison. Christianity has a very well defined and categorized (sexos/eros/philia/agape) understanding of love. It is also not a feeling.

> "Love your neighbour as yourself"

That is a very important part of that understanding of the meaning of love. While it also means that you love your neighbour in any circumstance, it importantly says that you should love the neighbour in the same way you love yourself. You love yourself even when you know you are evil and should die.

The stance of the (catholic) church is that you should damn the sin and love the sinner.

1718627440•5mo ago
While I agree with you that it is wrong, I can assure you it's quite a common stance among our 68-influenced priests, referents and teachers inside the "catholic" church. They will happily contradict the official stance of the catholic church and still claim to be true catholics (and everyone else is just from yesterday). But then again, I think that is a large reason, why church membership is shrinking drastically in my country, while in our also western neighbors it is rising again.
thinkingemote•5mo ago
"I confess ... that I have greatly sinned in my thoughts and in my words."
boxed•5mo ago
Of course all those things can be sins. The two first leads directly to atheism, and the third can be used to spread atheism.
graemep•5mo ago
Atheism is not a sin - not if a sincere belief. An honest mistake is not sin.

If you are arguing that intrinsically good things (reading, thinking, speaking) can be turned to bad purpose, then so can almost anything. If done with honest intent I cannot see how reading, thinking of speaking atheism is sinful.

Is there anything in the the Catechism that says otherwise.

1718627440•5mo ago
Saying god doesn't exists, is obviously a sin against god. Not sure how you define atheism if it doesn't include that.
falcor84•5mo ago
"gods like to see an atheist around. Gives them something to aim at." Terry Pratchett, Small Gods
graemep•5mo ago
> Saying god doesn't exists, is obviously a sin against god.

its not obvious to me. I cannot see how an honestly held belief can be a sin. Is it evil to be an atheist because you believe there is no God? Clearly not, so how can you say its a sin?

1718627440•5mo ago
When I honestly think you are a murder, is that not insulting to you?

When I honestly think I'm entitled to the money in the bank, does that mean I won't be judged?

If there are people that are atheists, because they have never heard of anyone telling them about god, then no that is not a sin. I doubt that applies to most people. Most atheists are atheists by choice, not because they wouldn't have access to information about god.

boxed•5mo ago
> Most atheists are atheists by choice, not because they wouldn't have access to information about god.

That's not choice though. I can't become a believer in god anymore than I can sprout wings. I can't just start believing something false. No one can make a decision to believe something on will alone. That's not how brains work.

1718627440•5mo ago
> That's not choice though.

Plain disagree.

True, you can not come to believe in god on your own. Neither can god make you believe on his own. You can still pray for it.

Mother Teresa famously didn't believed in God's existence for decades. She still didn't became an atheist.

> No one can make a decision to believe

Yes, you can't. You can make the decision to search however.

boxed•5mo ago
You, I mean you singular, can't decide to believe that 1+1=4. You know that it's not to the core of your being. There is literally no choice possible when the facts are in.

This is what it's like to be a strong atheist.

> Mother Teresa famously didn't believed in God's existence for decades. She still didn't became an atheist.

She did become a turturer of the most vulnerable people though. So... yea, I guess that's another type of argument against faith.

1718627440•5mo ago
Yes of course. (Other than that math expression is a language and I could redefine symbols, but yes I see how it's not about symbols here.)

You just can't reason about the cause of reasoning, and the origin of the concept of cause and effect. You can dispute if that origin is more like a person that doesn't care about anything, a person that wants a relationship with you (Christianity/Judaism), a fundamental core concept (pantheism) or randomness (evolutionist).

You simply can't just know that. That's why it is a choice.

> She did become a turturer

What?

Ok, I've found a single article by the Guardian about a claim being filed is there any source about whether that is true?

boxed•5mo ago
> You just can't reason about the cause of reasoning, and the origin of the concept of cause and effect. You can dispute if that origin is more like a person that doesn't care about anything, a person that wants a relationship with you (Christianity/Judaism), a fundamental core concept (pantheism) or randomness (evolutionist). > You simply can't just know that. That's why it is a choice.

You either missed the point entirely or are trying to obfuscate the issue. The cause of reason has no bearing at all. Reason and understanding are real things. Actually knowing something means you can't choose to believe the opposite. I can't choose to believe something I know is false. I can't choose to believe the sky is pink, or that rocks are soft, etc. That's nonsense.

> Ok, I've found a single article by the Guardian about a claim being filed is there any source about whether that is true?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Missionary_Position:_Mothe...

She was a horrible horrible person.

1718627440•5mo ago
> The cause of reason has no bearing at all.

The cause of reason is what we call God. What you think that is, is very disputed, like I wrote in my previous comment.

When you think your God exists in the same way that the sky has a color, then I can assure you, that God doesn't exist. Atheists often take pride in rejecting "Gods" that a Christian also rejects and thinks they don't exist.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Missionary_Position:_Mothe...

That article presents multiple positions of that subject, I would probably side more with Leys there. Richness and poverty are not a goal in itself, but all means to an end. The poorest of the poor can have a richer life than a very rich. Mother Teresa was not a medical doctor and never claimed to be. She was treating peoples hearts, not their bodies.

The church doesn't think salvation means to be rich. Actually quite the opposite.

boxed•5mo ago
> She was treating peoples hearts, not their bodies.

She was prolonging suffering in others because she thought suffering was beautiful. But when she got sick herself she immediately and at great expense stopped her own suffering.

rob74•5mo ago
Well, the first of the ten commandments is "You shall have no other gods before Me" , and that, according to a widespread interpretation, also forbids atheism:

> There is manifestly contained in this commandment AN IMPLICIT DENIAL OF ALL ATHEISM. The command, "Thou shalt have none other gods before Me," rests on the assumption that there is one true and living God. The law therefore forbids atheism as being a denial of God. (https://biblehub.com/sermons/auth/barrett/the_first_commandm...)

graemep•5mo ago
Does that make it a sin? Commandments are not detailed guides, but general principles. There are clearly accepted exceptions to most of them, including honest belief.

Who exactly is the source you cite for the claim atheism is breaking the commandment and therefore sinful? He does not seem to be a Catholic, let alone someone with authority to define the church's teachings. Can you link to a similar statement in the Catechism, a church Council, or at least a papal encyclical?

"One protestant preacher said" is not proof of what the Catholic Church believes.

boxed•5mo ago
> Commandments are not detailed guides, but general principles

That's a far stretch. How is "keep the sabbath holy" a "general principle" in any way? How is "thou shalt have no other gods before me"?

graemep•5mo ago
What about "You shall not kill". There are quite a tradition of exceptions. In self-defence (generally accepted), in war (widely accepted, although not by everyone, and always with limitations such as requiring the war is just), and for judicial punishment (although again only as a necessity, and the Catholic Church has said its not necessary under modern circumstances).
boxed•5mo ago
The bible doesn't say that. It says "you shouldn't murder" where "murder" means "kill a human without just cause". The standard "thou shalt not kill" is a bad translation, nothing more.

You can tell that it is from context as the laws just after that mandates a LOT of killing. For being "a witch" for example (which I assume is another mistranslation).

1718627440•5mo ago
Violence can be correct in self-defence and war, but being in self-defense is not enough to justify it alone.
1718627440•5mo ago
> Does that make it a sin?

Yes the ten commandments are very much what defines sins.

> "One protestant preacher said" is not proof of what the Catholic Church believes.

Yes. From the Catholic Catechism: https://www.vatican.va/content/catechism/en/part_three/secti...

> 2125 Since it rejects or denies the existence of God, atheism is a sin against the virtue of religion.

nathan_compton•5mo ago
Atheism is not per se a sin, but it may as well be, precisely because Catholics believe everyone is born sinful and only the correct configuration of beliefs in one's head is sufficient to undo that state of affairs. This is my big problem with Christianity. Salvation, in the end, is a matter of assigning the correct truth value to purely historical statements, not moral ones.

Like to be saved, most Christians say, one must believe a litany of things about the historical figure of Christ. But that is just a history exam! It seems highly implausible that the God most people think of when they think of the Christian God would assign torture and torment based purely on a failure to come to a certain historical conclusion.

graemep•5mo ago
Most Christians? I very much doubt it.

It is NOT the teaching of the Catholic church for a start:

https://uscatholic.org/articles/202212/what-does-the-church-...

https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_coun...

Nor do they believe hell to be a place of torture, but a state of separation from God. Read CS Lewis's Great Divorce if you are interested in a better metaphor than flames and torture.

boxed•5mo ago
From the first URL:

> but it means that God labors tirelessly to bring all people — Christian or not — to salvation in Christ.

That is a hilarious quote. Only believers can say that with a straight face and not see the absolute madness it implies. How could "God labor[] tirelessly" to help everyone into salvation? That's on its face absolute garbage. Is God so incredibly weak that he could only show the path to salvation to 12 dudes 2000 years ago? If so, why should we worship that god, which seems like a pitiful figure compared to many nobel prize winners. I certainly would think we owe more worship to Normal Borlaug than a god that can't get his message across because he could only intervene in a credible way once in front of 12 people, and then never again.

1718627440•5mo ago
God revealing himself as weak by human standards is a core experience of Christianity. Christianity/Judaism is (according to my knowledge) the only religion where not humans are seeking God, but God seeks to connect with humans. The whole bible, old and new testaments are stories where people sometimes care about God, most times run away from God, but always God running circles to meet the people again.

That is the reason why Christianity is news-worthy. People wouldn't run around the world to tell you that God is that detached monarch who likes to govern humans. That's a concept a lot of cultures already had.

That doesn't mean God is "weak". It means applying human concepts to God just doesn't make sense. He will always be greater and above them.

> not see the absolute madness it implies

They absolutely agree with you there. That's why "they" flip out. That's what "they" find so important to tell you: absolute madness being true.

boxed•5mo ago
> The whole bible, old and new testaments are stories where people sometimes care about God, most times run away from God, but always God running circles to meet the people again.

Except the book of Job. Where God explicitly tortures a person just to see if he can still be faithful to God. Kills his wife and kids! And when he is faithful, he gets what? His wife and kids back? No of course not, because those are property, he gets a NEW wife and NEW kids. Hahah, oops, all is forgiven right? No biggie.

> That doesn't mean God is "weak". It means applying human concepts to God just doesn't make sense. He will always be greater and above them.

God isn't even trying to show himself to exist. And for all the people of the world that are not convinced by incoherent babbling we shall all be condemned to suffer for eternity? That is neither logical, just, or even sane.

1718627440•5mo ago
The book of Job is a warning to think bad things happening are the fault of the person itself being evil. It's also warning about being to attached to your current nice life, because everything is temporary.

> Kills his wife and kids!

According to the book of Job, the suffering isn't done by God, but by the Devil.

> he gets a NEW wife and NEW kids.

His wife and kids are dead. Resurrecting people for the pleasure of another person, that's like puppets serving a master, it wouldn't be respectful and consequential.

> God isn't even trying to show himself to exist.

In my opinion he does. That's what the bible is; a collection of examples where God tries to show himself to exist. And he still does, every decade, every year, maybe even every day?

nathan_compton•5mo ago
Rhetoric.

While its true that various pieces of Catholic "stuff" admit the possibility of salvation _without_ explicit belief in Christ, the vibes are still very much "if you know about Jesus/The Gospel then you probably need to believe in him to be saved, with some possible exceptions."

And a "state of separation" from God is expected to be a state of torture. Like maybe the idea of demons literally poking you in the eyeballs with hot pokers is out of fashion, but its clear Hell is still understood to be a deeply unpleasant place.

umanwizard•5mo ago
Catholics don’t really believe that AFAICT.

Different branches of Christianity are very different; you can’t assume that Catholics believe something just because most Protestants do.

graemep•5mo ago
I am not even sure about most protestants - its very common among American evangelicals, of course, but globally much less so.
1718627440•5mo ago
> is a matter of assigning the correct truth value to purely historical statements, not moral ones.

Why does "statements" being stated in the past, preclude being about morality.

> But that is just a history exam!

Stating facts you don't believe won't get you anywhere. Believing is where much an active thing.

renox•5mo ago
> Atheism is not a sin - not if a sincere belief. An honest mistake is not sin.

Historically, religions (when there in position of power of course) have not been especially kind with atheists..

graemep•5mo ago
NOt necessarily in the way most people think. You might find this lecture interesting: https://www.gresham.ac.uk/watch-now/atheist-medieval-europe
renox•5mo ago
I didn't find it very interesting sorry.
bitshiftfaced•5mo ago
> Since it rejects or denies the existence of God, atheism is a sin against the virtue of religion. [Cites Romans 1:18] The imputability of this offense can be significantly diminished in virtue of the intentions and the circumstances. "Believers can have more than a little to do with the rise of atheism. To the extent that they are careless about their instruction in the faith, or present its teaching falsely, or even fail in their religious, moral, or social life, they must be said to conceal rather than to reveal the true nature of God and of religion." [62]

- CCC 2125

Interestingly, I believe this means, from the Church's perspective, that the mere fact of my posting this makes this sin more imputable to those who read it! Sorry about that.

notorandit•5mo ago
There is only one law: love your neighbor like yourself.

Anything else either comes from others or from older "laws".

boxed•5mo ago
Those other laws were explicitly reaffirmed by Jesus. Your statement is not supported by scripture. It's not christianity.
1718627440•5mo ago
I would answer the same to you as I already did here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44900273
abrenuntio•5mo ago
Not sure whether an index is still pragmatic.

But I hope the Catholic Church of the future will take the defense of its flock more serious again. Many books (and movies and TV series...) out there contain downright evil ideas, sometimes presented in dishonest ways. Perhaps some organized, ecclesiastically sanctioned system of reviews to guide readers would be feasible?

01HNNWZ0MV43FF•5mo ago
I dunno. Depends how many people hear it.
ralfd•5mo ago
Knowing how LLM work made me more sympathetic to curating my own „training set“ though.
photios•5mo ago
From Wikipedia:

> The Index was enforceable within the Papal States, but elsewhere only if adopted by the civil powers, as happened in several Italian states.

Wow, such a hugely important list that nobody seemed to care about.

dragonwriter•5mo ago
The fact that it wasn't incorporated into civil law didn't mean no one cared about it (also, there were a number of states that didn't formally adopt the Vatican index, but which had their own similar list, and, where they were Catholic states, they often largely mirrored the Vatican list with some local changes.)
Pinegulf•5mo ago
For the interested here is Latin version from 1835:https://archive.org/details/indexlibrorumpro00greg/mode/2up
yread•5mo ago
The actual index starts on page 58
croisillon•5mo ago
so in french there is an expression derived from this, condemning/forbidding can be called "putting things on the index" (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mettre_%C3%A0_l%27index), and "index" is also the name of the pointer finger... so in 1990 a politician said (about a bishop, or was it about the pope himself?): "he doesn't understand how condom is to be used since he put it on the index"
kiney•5mo ago
same in germany
haritha-j•5mo ago
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trhway•5mo ago
A similar, though at much larger scale and in more grotesque way, thing in Russia these days - SWAT raids bookstores and publishers and arresting and filing felony charges against them and removing books for any hint of "propaganda of extremism and terrorism" - where even LGBTQ is declared to be extremism by the Russian Supreme Court and is among the main targets of the censorship and the SWAT.

In addition to the books prohibited for their content, any books by "foreign agents" are prohibited too with the "foreign agent" designation assigned directly by the government, bypassing any court, to any minimally public person who disagrees with the government policies.

The new law also prohibits public demonstration (which beside movie theaters also includes websites with more than 100K users) of foreign movies not in agreement with the "traditional values of Russia" (which is whatever the government would declare as such).

prmoustache•5mo ago
What does UK have to do with the catholic church and vice-versa? A minority of christians in UK are catholics.
bravesoul2•5mo ago
> Typis Polyglotis

That's me!

everyone•5mo ago
I find it hilarious that Copernicus is forbidden, they cant possibly afford to let those incendiary heliocentric ideas get out!
graemep•5mo ago
Copernicus's book was forbidden subject to the removal of one section.

Copernicus was himself a priest and heliocentrism per se was never the problem. Even Galileo got into trouble for making the specific claim that it had been proved that the sun was the centre of the universe.

flohofwoe•5mo ago
I find the helio- vs geocentrism debate infinitely fascinating, because if you just go by the 'scientific method' of observing the night sky from the Earth, then geocentrism also totally makes "scientific sense" as a hypothesis, it just requires a complicated explanation for the complex movement patterns of planets.

Turns out that just moving the coordinate system origin from the Earth to the Sun (e.g. literally just a change of perspective) replaces any complicated explanation for those complex movement patterns that are visible from Earth with a much simpler explanation (but a simpler explanation alone doesn't mean yet that it's more correct than the complicated explanation - it's at best more likely until proven). It took until Newton and Einstein to really understand why planets move predictably around the sun and not entirely erratically (AFAIK Newton still believed the movement to be preserved by intervention of God - don't quote me on that though).

So the initial stance of the Catholic Church to insist on geocentrism wasn't "unscientific" in the same sense that today's Flat Earthers, astrologists or anti-vaxxers are - compared to those, the 16th century Catholic Church was hardcore rationalist. The church finally recognized heliocentrism in the mid 18th century (so at least they only waited until Newton's death and not Einstein's death lol).

But hey, what's a few centuries in the history of the Catholic Church ;)

jenadine•5mo ago
Heliocentrism simplifies the equations of movement of the planets but that alone isn't a good justification. It did not explain the movement of the star that were thought to be much closer. And why we wouldn't feel the movement of the earth (Galileo said that in his book the rotation of the earth was causing the tide, which is factually wrong) At the time, this was a fringe theory, like MOND or string theories are today.
1718627440•5mo ago
> Galileo said that in his book the rotation of the earth was causing the tide, which is factually wrong

I thought the tide was caused by earth and moon rotating about a common center, so how is that wrong?

jenadine•5mo ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse_on_the_Tides

Galileo incorrectly claimed tides were caused by Earth's motion around the sun, ignoring the true cause: gravitational forces between the Earth and Moon, which were later explained by Newton

Ylpertnodi•5mo ago
Is Freemasonry acceptable, yet?
b800h•5mo ago
No. Speaking as a Freemason, it's completely understandable that the Vatican would ban masonry for Roman Catholics, both from a practical perspective and a theological one.
DagsEoress•5mo ago
No, and it never will be.
ivape•5mo ago
It’s interesting that even those that concluded God like Descartes were banned.

Christ specifically was impressed with a Centurion that sought his healing power (for another, not himself) without even being a Jew or follower of Christ. As in, Christ was simply amazed:

“Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith.” (Matthew 8:10, NIV)

Descartes would haven fallen under such faith. I really need to study how the Catholic Church butchered so many interpretations.

bormaj•5mo ago
I think the Catholic church's actions could be rationalized through the lens of preserving influence. Descartes' ideas could be viewed as fostering a mindset of self-reliance and independence which is antithetical to a dependence on the church.
irusensei•5mo ago
Oh it's still maintained although the latest volumes were published by The Payment Processor Cartel(TM) under the title "Sanctions List".