Interesting they'd chose to move to germany with their infra after the whole "gov sued Tutanota into providing a backdoor into e2ee email and won" thing happened. I've been with proton specifically because they are one of the few privacy focused email providers that isnt based in germany. Maybe it's time to say screw it and host my own, even if deliverability is gonna be an issue. I don't feel like my email is safe if it's hosted in germany.
immibis•5mo ago
It's absolutely not safe, they raid people's apartments for complaining about Gaza. They raid Tor exit nodes even though they know full well what a Tor exit node is (they're hoping to find the operator did something else wrong, or just disrupt the Tor network). They raid people's homes for things they don't like about that person's business (including running Tor exits). A typical raid seizes all electronics. And until recently, public wifi was illegal. There's now a special exception for public wifi specifically, but anything similar (such as VPN exits) is still probably illegal.
morjom•5mo ago
"Proton's CEO Andy Yen confirmed that the proposed changes to the Swiss surveillance law made the company opt for Germany instead to host Lumo's servers. Proton has also confirmed it's also developing facilities in Norway.
While the company did not specify that Germany would become the new home of the majority of its infrastructure, Proton confirmed to TechRadar that investing in Europe doesn't equate to leaving Switzerland."
iwontberude•5mo ago
At least this time it will be easier to switch away than having and @gmail.com
AugSun•5mo ago
Tor Browser first. Now Proton. Sad. Whatever their PR says after this - doesn't matter. This X post may be, just may be and it's clear speculation on my side, a warrant canary. But I don't want to test that assumption ... So, I'm out. Used them since the very beginning.
_vere•5mo ago
immibis•5mo ago