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Altered states of consciousness induced by breathwork accompanied by music

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0329411
63•gnabgib•2h ago

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ranger_danger•1h ago
so, Wim Hof and chill?
degamad•9m ago
> chill

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ada1981•58m ago
I run a psychedelic breath work group called BioMythic.com and we've worked with YC founders and teams and other Unicorn's like Bombas.

Happy to offer a free virtual session for founders if there is interest here, as our work is always gifted.

tomhow•32m ago
People have been downvoting and flagging this but I've turned off flags, and we see no harm in sharing a product/service that's genuinely relevant to the topic. I know from personal experience it's hard to find good practitioners to help with this work so I think it's fine that people interested in the topic can connect with someone who can provide further information and support.
tern•23m ago
There's no generally good way to vet stuff like this. My recommendation: if you're interested and haven't done it before, find a friend (or friend of a friend) who has and ask them for a personal recommendation.

If you want to take a low-woo course on it, here's one: https://www.nsmastery.com/ (I know Jonny, but I'm not affiliated and I haven't taken his course.)

noduerme•12m ago
There should be some sort of, like, trusted bureau that gives a woo-level ranking to these things. Massage therapy boards and such are too busy unsuccessfully rooting out human trafficking on the other side of the self-help spectrum.

As an aside, and in all seriousness, how well would this works for a self-medicated functional alcoholic who thinks breathing exercises involve rolling a cigarette first? Does one have to be one of the self-congratulatory "healthy" and swear off vices to benefit from this, or is it something you can do before you head off to the bar?

hliyan•54m ago
The last time this topic was on HN, some mentioned that many indigenous people had similar techniques with drum beats, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIfLC5iudQ0 (this is a modern rendition though).
culi•43m ago
See also: sweat baths. Surprisingly wide spread in practice. Not only is it practiced throughout most of North America (Turtle Island) but is also a feature of Kabbalistic (Jewish mysiticist) practices. Mandingo practices might be an African analogue.

(yes, they can lead to psychedelic experiences)

EDIT: here's a paper on Kabbalah and sweat lodges https://www.academia.edu/37069129/The_Kabbalah_of_the_Sweatl...

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Mandinka
Bud•49m ago
This is literally why I've been a professional choral/solo classical singer for 30 years. It works! It's a great way of life.
dyauspitr•44m ago
So basically yogic pranayama
8bitsrule•26m ago
First time I saw this subject arise: the film(s) about the 1969 Woodstock festival. Finally getting some attention these days.
gooob•25m ago
you know what else induces altered states of consciousness?

cheese

noduerme•17m ago
Unfortunately, that kind of cheese isn't widely available in America.
rishigurjar•22m ago
The west takes a while to catch up to the east
SanjayMehta•14m ago
With the usual pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo.
myflash13•12m ago
https://youtu.be/ih395-JcvQo?feature=shared
brandall10•9m ago
FWIW, I used to use a light and sound machine and was able to induce these states. And I had a couple dozen experiences w/ psilocybin in my college years, so I'm well versed in what they should be like.

Interestingly enough, these machines are marketed as brainwave entrainment, but the literature on that says the visual component doesn't really have much impact. But auditory entrainment doesn't seem to really do much for me either.

The goggles w/ binaural beats creates some weird sort of state where I don't feel any connection to my environment, that after only a couple minutes my body turns to total mush and my brain comes alive with phosphene visuals. By about 15 minutes in, my stomach usually gurgles a bit, not unlike the indigestion that psychedelic trips can sometimes induce.

There is an app for the iPhone called Lumenate that uses the LED flash and it seems to work, though it's not as strong for me as the multi-LED goggles I used to use.

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