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Search engine referral report for 2025 Q2

https://radar.cloudflare.com/reports/search-engine-market-share-2025-q2
40•vgeek•2h ago

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PaulKeeble•1h ago
Google on 88.9% of search results clicked and bing on 3.056% with everyone else even less. This is not a competitive market and it seems very stable over time.
ivape•1h ago
What do you think most people use when they need a taxi now days? Humans believe the market is some kind of magical place where everyone gets a slice of the pie. This is not true, winners are a thing.
Semaphor•1h ago
Over here, I'd say minicar or maxicar
onlyrealcuzzo•57m ago
It really shows you what a bubble HN is.

Every post about Google for years has been people saying it's terrible and dead.

Kagi gets talked about on here constantly, and it's not even on the list (though I suspect there's a reason?)

Even within Google, about a year ago, everyone was saying that Google was dead because of Perplexity, which is barely a blip.

It's kind of shocking to see DuckDuckGo is only about 1%, with everything you hear and how much you hear it within certain bubbles.

brookst•38m ago
I’d argue that HN sentiment is a leading indicator, not a claim of current reality.

Compared to a year ago, Google has declined from 89.487% to 88.915%. Just half a percent, but IMO it will accelerate.

Meanwhile OpenAI has gone from 0.194% to 0.226% in just three months (they weren’t on previous quarter’s reports).

Sure, it’ll be years before Google drops to 50%. But it will happen.

EbNar•26m ago
> Kagi gets talked about on here constantly, and it's not even on the list (though I suspect there's a reason?)

Being at least 10€/month for the only "useful" tier is a powerful reason for that...

Maybe also Kagi being a metasearch engine reduces its visibility? Just speculating, I obviously don't know how it really works.

toast0•19m ago
> Every post about Google for years has been people saying it's terrible and dead.

They are terrible, but that doesn't mean anybody else is good or better. And being better at search isn't enough anyway [1]. Also, when you give Google less of your searches, personalization drops off and it gets even worse, but most people give all their searches to google so they see the benefit of personalization if they compare.

[1] When Yahoo did user research on search, one of their findings was that if you asked users which results were better, there was a strong and consistent preference towards results that were shown as Google results, regardless of the actual results. It's been forever since I saw those reports, so I don't remember the numbers, and the numbers are likely different today anyway, but that's a huge barrier to adoption that you have to manage.

jorams•8m ago
> Kagi gets talked about on here constantly, and it's not even on the list (though I suspect there's a reason?)

Not that I'd expect them high up on the list, but Kagi sends the following response header:

    Referrer-Policy: same-origin
As a result the browser won't send a Referer header with outgoing links, completely excluding them from this report.
pr337h4m•1h ago
> The strategy we use relies on the referer header we see when we get an HTTP/S request.

This is interesting data but is not really a useful estimate of search engine market share in 2025.

entuno•1h ago
And one that would understate privacy-focused search engines, because the people using those are far less likely to be sending useful referrers.
internetter•1h ago
What search engines don't send referrer headers?
mdaniel•19m ago
I was expecting DDG to be one of them (before I read the report), so I did some digging and it seems that they have <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/...> set to "origin", meaning it says that the request came from duckduckgo.com but nothing further

  <meta name="referrer" content="origin">
But, to answer your question, presumably a search engine that wanted to stay really under the radar could use that same mechanism to choose "no-referrer" and the traffic would seem organic

(I also had a good chuckle at them choosing to break the typo chain with this directive)

freeqaz•1h ago
I really want to know how many search requests are being made by ChatGPT and other AI systems in 2025. I know OpenAI has a partnership with Bing for this, but then I see OpenAI in the list on the post.

Do we know if they're sending the referer header? Maybe there is no way to know. It would just be interesting to see that trend over time.

system2•1h ago
It's very nice to see all the details. Two things came to my attention. In countries like Turkey or Eastern European ones, Google adoption doesn't change regardless of what platform they are on, pushing nearly 90% on every device. In the USA, Windows users actually prefer Bing a little more.

Does this mean other countries are better at using computers/more conscious users, and changing the default search engine/browser? It might be related to Edge being the default for Windows computers, but this is overridden by the users in other countries. Or is it because Microsoft is pushing more ads and is trusted more in the USA?

The second question is how much OpenAI disrupted the overall Google traffic. That's probably the most important metric anyone wants to see.

epolanski•1h ago
I highly doubt these numbers.

I see how (in Italy/Poland) me, my friends and relatives have turned towards Gemini for the lots of queries.

People walking around the streets and asking Gemini for restaurants, directions or any general questions is starting to be extremely common, but I doubt that Cloudflare can measure those (afterall it never goes through a browser since Gemini app is embedded in the home button of Android phones).

I also doubt that Cloudflare measures the gargantuan amount of queries people do through, e.g., their AI desktop apps or stuff like Claude Code, that effectively replaces google searches.

VladVladikoff•1h ago
Considering the fact that very few people exit from AI searches into the web, rather than just ending the session (having received the answer they were looking for); it seems to me that this report would vastly overstate traditional search engine market share. Personally I’ve basically stopped using Google as my primary search. I usually start by searching in an LLM. Especially if the query is complex (e.g. give me a summary of USAs current lunar missions and progress towards a lunar base.) The only time I still go to google is for maps related searches. To find local businesses. But often in that case I will go directly to maps.google.com. I would like to see a real report on market share. I expect Google has lost a lot and hasn’t yet admitted it.
highwaylights•1h ago
If you go Google something right now you’re not doing a web search like you were even a year ago - the first thing that comes up (and takes up most of the screen depending on your device) is a Gemini response to your query.

At the least it can be inferred that Google has fundamentally changed their main product to mimic a competitor, which is something you just don’t do if everything’s OK.

willahmad•40m ago
From a personal experience, at least 50% of my Google searches moved to ChatGPT and Claude. Since, I saw many similar transitions with my friends and coworkers, I was expecting higher numbers for OpenAI.

Do you see a similar transition in your network?

parhamn•22m ago
Do you often ask questions that lead you to a link? I use LLMs heavily but still use google when looking for a link.

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