SCOTUS believe it's up to congress to try and convict him, and Republicans in Congress believe it's up to the courts to try and convict him. Neither will lift a finger to save you or the republic.
The legislature can at any point in time choose to convene a kangaroo court to punish him, but the Republican party has actively and deliberately emasculated itself when it comes to holding their Don accountable - for anything.
Penalties for illegal policy, if they exist, are generally political and dependent on the electorate (or, in principle, Congress.)
Since we fund and elect the government, we are essentially all collectively responsible for the government, and with our tax dollars we are all collectively liable for the government debts.
In many cases, it doesn’t make sense to penalize ourselves and thus the government often has sovereign immunity in many cases.
Meanwhile a court has found that Trump's deploying of national guards to Los Angeles (presumably other cities as well), as a national police force headed by Trump is illegal [2]. Trump says a lot of Americans want a dictator [3], and a national police force would certainly help accomplish that goal.
[1] https://archive.today/o0LHW
[2] https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2025/0902/trump-nation...
[3] https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-sa...
duxup•5h ago
But the judiciary (specifically the majority of SCOTUS) doesn't care what the law is, as long as he is their guy the executive branch can do what it likes and there rest of the American citizens have to pay their illegal taxes and eat the costs of all this while SCOTUS makes Trump more equal than everyone else...
xnx•5h ago
Also Congress. They could pass trade laws at any time, but they don't want to be associated with it.
KaiserPro•5h ago
However for many reasons thats not the case. And I'm not sure what the logical outcome of it is.
Analemma_•5h ago
weberc2•5h ago
nucleardog•3h ago
Everyone elects a member of parliament to the House of Commons. That's it. Our ballots have a single choice on them.
The Prime Minister is just whichever guy a majority in the House of Commons can agree should handle the day-to-day stuff. They have little in the way of codified power, but in practice operate fairly similarly to the US President--selecting ministers to lead key agencies, making orders in council ("executive orders") where Parliament has delegated them that power, etc.
However they remain subordinate to and serve at the pleasure of the House of Commons. At any time the house can make a motion of no confidence and remove the Prime Minister with a simple majority. Certain things such as the budget are an automatic confidence vote--failing to pass a budget means you're dismissed. (Sometimes they're replaced, often this triggers an election to, excuse the pun, give voters an opportunity to get their house in order.)
They're not dramatically limited relative to the US President, but their position is a lot more tenuous and requires ongoing support from government for them to remain in power. Instead of shutting down the government if the prime minister can't put a budget together, we just fire the prime minister. Instead of doing a split-brained thing where two parts of the government get deadlocked, we just fire the prime minister.
What happens if the House of Commons goes crazy? Canada has a Senate. It's 105 members that are selected by appointment. They serve until age 75. They're generally unaffiliated with any specific party. There are actually some women there (~55% versus ~30% in the house). The members are selected by whoever is in power at the time of a vacancy, however it's not generally treated as partisan (and steps are being taken to make it explicitly non-partisan). Over time, though, it would tend to follow larger election/political trends. Since it's a "lifetime" appointment, the Senate can act against populism and as a damper to pull the government towards status quo.
The Senate is described as the chamber of "sober second thought" because anything the House of Commons passes has to be passed by the Senate to become law. It's rare for something to pass the house and not the senate (some notable examples being things like an attempt to criminalize abortion), however I'll say with no basis that that doesn't mean they don't have influence--the house is unlikely to try and send anything up to the senate that they have an indication would be rejected.
And if the Senate goes crazy? We left an escape hatch--constitutional amendments are not voted on by the Senate. The House of Commons can pass a constitutional amendment which has to be approved by the provincial assemblies in at least 7 (of 10) provinces collectively representing at least half of the population.
So to boil that rambling mess down--
The Legislature is essentially trusted with running everything. They delegate power to the Executive which is given wide powers, but the process of taking away that power is made very easy. The check on the Legislature is a group designed to be a lagging indicator and not beholden to anyone that acts as a damper. If anything isn't working, we default to throwing it all out and trying again. We left some escape hatches that involve going back to the people.
We haven't had to deal with the same sort of direct attacks that the US has, but... well, fingers crossed.
PleasureBot•5h ago
For my money I'd say a combination of
1) Poor economic conditions & extreme wealth inequality provides fertile ground for political extremes on all sides.
2) Gerrymandering producing political candidates that are more extreme and more likely to agree with Trump.
3) Over representation of unpopulated rural states in Congress further tipping the balance of Congress towards Trump.
4) The decades long effect of propaganda networks like Fox, Newsmax, etc. producing a media bubble for half the country such that we no longer have a shared reality.
And some interactions between all those factors that exacerbate the problem.
bryanlarsen•4h ago
danaris•4h ago
Just as one example, the Fox News network has been providing propaganda that strays far too often into outright deception for something like 30 years now, and, as many of us can attest, there is a whole category of people who have been watching it for most of that time and believe everything it says. Because of the way it frames reality, that also means they will refuse to believe anything that disagrees with it, and deem it liberal propaganda trying to trick them. My wife recalls telling her parents to "stop watching that" during the 2000 election campaign; they did not, and now are fully down the Trump rabbit hole, with very little hope that we could get them to believe even simple things like "some of the people ICE is detaining are fully legal".
bryanlarsen•5h ago
dragonwriter•5h ago
The 60-vote requirement for cloture only exists because it is readopted every Senate on a simple majority basis, so while not quite “at any time”, the only reason it is not at any time is because the majority of the Senate continues to choose not to allow itself to do that, it is not a Constitutionally, or otherwise externally, imposed limit.
GeorgeTirebiter•5h ago
duxup•4h ago
The consequences land on citizens paying these taxes, losing jobs, and they're going to live with the long term consequences while SCOTUS empowers the executive branch and their friends.
RHSeeger•3h ago
In what way. We've literally seen the courts tell the executive branch "you cannot do this" and then its done anyways. And there are 0 consequences so far. So no, the courts aren't working.
lowbloodsugar•2h ago
These guys are way ahead of you. You're playing a game of rock paper scissors, and telling everyone that you're going to use scissors in November '26.
cosmicgadget•1h ago
The courts below scotus have worked.
krapp•1h ago