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Let us git rid of it, angry GitHub users say of forced Copilot features

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/05/github_copilot_complaints/
77•latexr•2h ago

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LtWorf•1h ago
I went to https://codeberg.org/
crabmusket•35m ago
I just became a donor :)
LtWorf•21m ago
Me too, but they host my stuff.
RossBencina•1h ago
ctrl+shift+p > Chat: Hide AI Features

in vscode

Y_Y•1h ago
How on earth was Microsoft allowed to buy such a critical piece of tech infrastructure?
Spooky23•54m ago
How on earth did anyone believe Microsoft was different this time?
airstrike•51m ago
There is no law against that, so I'm not sure what you're suggesting.

And git lives on regardless of GitHub

latexr•37m ago
> There is no law against that

Regulators can (and do) stop purchases which can be considered harmful to consumers. Just look at the Adobe/Figma deal.

bapak•9m ago
If GitHub were to close tomorrow, you'd lose out on the social part temporarily, but there are effectively dozens of providers and solutions that could replace it.

The same could not be said for Figma, where if lost, you'd end up looking at the company that tried to buy it. That's what those laws are for.

andrewinardeer•50m ago
Was GitHub really critical at time of purchase? Or has Microsoft turned it into critical infrastructure?
oytis•46m ago
It was the leading git storage at the time of acquisition, for many people synonymous with git itself
daemin•45m ago
Even though Git is decentralised, people like having a simple client-server model for version control. So with Github being the most funded free Git hosting service it grew to being the biggest. They also built out the extra services on top of git hosting, the issue tracker, CI/CD, discussion board, integrated wiki, github-pages, etc.

I would say all of those things were present before the acquisition, enough that Microsoft itself started to use the site for its own open source code hosting.

rs186•33m ago
If you travel back to 2018 and ask random software engineers "are git and github developed and owned by the same company", a fair number of them would say yes, just like today.
politelemon•33m ago
It wasn't critical at that time.

But then who made it critical over the intervening years? That's on us.

It's easy to knee jerk on HN but let's try to do better than this.

gchamonlive•25m ago
When Microsoft bought GH it was already the most popular forge by far, which is why it was bought in the first place.

> But then who made it critical over the intervening years? That's on us.

That's blaming the victim. The vast majority of the opensource projects were hosted on GH since before Microsoft's acquisition. I remember back in 2018 when my team made the decision to move from bitbucket to GitHub, the main consideration was the platform quality but also the community we were getting access to.

mvdtnz•7m ago
"Critical"? "Infrastructure"? What do you think Github is?
layer8•5m ago
GitHub isn’t critical infrastructure, it’s only real USP is network effects.
IshKebab•1h ago
Is this actually a real problem? Note it says "forced Copilot features" and

> the most popular community discussion in the past 12 months has been a request for a way to block Copilot, the company's AI service, from generating issues and pull requests in code repositories.

but Microsoft doesn't automatically make these issues and PRs. Users have to trigger it.

I mean, I do think you should be able to block the `copilot` user but I looked at this users repos and their most popular one has a total of 3 PRs with no Copilot ones.

I also checked the Rust compiler which is obviously waaaay more popular and it appears to have had zero copilot PRs.

madeofpalk•7m ago
As a paid/commercial OSS maintainer, I haven't seen this from the public either. People occasionally submit low-effort PRs or issues, probably from Claude or ChatGPT or whatever, but I don't feel to bothered dealing with them. Of course, I'm fortunate enough to be paid for this.

I think it's just an unfortunate fact now in 2025 that if you look after a text box online, you're going to have to deal with AI sludge in one way or another. If you don't want to do that, close the text box.

flykespice•3m ago
> Is this actually a real problem?

I mean if Microsoft is training on your source code without consent (and potentially violating licenses) , that is a huge problem.

> I also checked the Rust compiler which is obviously waaaay more popular and it appears to have had zero copilot PRs

How do you asess whether some PR was made by an AI(like the user did)?

ants_everywhere•54m ago
People have been voluntarily letting Microsoft host their code for years now.

And before that they posted their open source code to a centralized site that wasn't open source.

This is one of those things where of course it was going to happen. GitHub was VC funded, they were going to either exit to a big company or try to become one.

Eventually the bill was going to come due and everyone knew this. You can choose to rely on VC subsidized services but the risk is you are still dependent on them when they switch things up.

gchamonlive•29m ago
Even though you are right, that misses the point terribly.

It's like using Instagram or Facebook. It's not at all a matter of individual choice when all your friends are on one single platform.

Sure you can host your code anywhere, but by not using GitHub you are potentially missing out on a very vibrant community.

It's all Microsoft to blame. It bought the medium and took an entire community hostage in the process just for the sake of profit.

layer8•18m ago
While Microsoft is certainly to blame, GP is also right that the problem wouldn’t exist if people hadn’t continued en masse to have their code hosted on a centralized proprietary and (since 2012) VC-funded platform in the first place.

As an aside, I don’t really see GitHub as a whole as a community. It’s a go-to place with network effects, but network effects doesn’t by itself imply “community”.

gchamonlive•10m ago
Yeah, I said that first thing. It's right but it misses the point.

Being VC backed isn't a deciding factor for adopting a forge. It's the community that drives adoption.

> I don’t really see GitHub as a whole as a community.

It's basically a social network on top of a source code forge. You have a profile that is individually identifiable, you can open issues and contribute to discussions on pull requests. All this can be tracked back to every individual while they collaborate and make connections while they contribute to each other. How is this not a community?

kelvinjps10•17m ago
Wasn't GitHub initially bootstrapped?
hparadiz•54m ago
I recently got access to the premium version through work and was able to prototype something super legit in a language I don't really code in. It requires a heavy understanding of Linux and I had to rephrase my prompts in a "high level" way. However the result would have taken weeks and I was able to do it in a few days.

That said I would have a hard time justifying paying for it for my personal life because it's really that expensive. I look forward to 10 years from now when the local ML is good enough or free.

WhyNotHugo•53m ago
> During Microsoft's July 30, 2025 earnings call, CEO Satya Nadella said GitHub Copilot continued to exhibit strong momentum and had reached 20 million users.

Considering that they force it upon users and user cannot disable it, this sounds like a worthless metric.

I get an email every month telling me that my Copilot access has been renewed for another month. I'm probably being counted amongst those 20M users.

I could stand at the train station and yell "Cthulhu is our saviour" all day and later claim that the word of Cthulhu reached thousands of people today.

dmd•46m ago
GLENDOWER: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.

HOTSPUR: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them?

daemin•49m ago
I read this article and then looked at my Github and a few other projects and found no issues created by Copilot. As someone else has said they need to be triggered manually, so therefore it's the same sort of problem as with the Curl project bug bounty, where people would be spamming with automatically LLM generated fictional problems. In that case because there's a potential for money to be made, and in the Github copilot case because I guess they're trying to contribute to open source for whatever reason.

As far as Visual Studio Code goes, I've not really used it much but it makes sense since it's Microsoft's free editor, so you will be a product and you will be marketed to. I do use Visual Studio though, and it does show Copilot in the UI by default, but there is an option to "hide Copilot" from the UI which does what is advertised. I will probably remove my important projects from Github though, but mainly so they are not used for LLM training than anything else.

latexr•38m ago
> and in the Github copilot case because I guess they're trying to contribute to open source for whatever reason.

The “whatever reason” can be to build a portfolio to apply for jobs. Or worse, to more quickly build trust to exploit vulnerable projects.

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/09/04/why-powerful-but-hard-to...

the__alchemist•11m ago
Same experience. Does anyone have info on this discrepancy in observations?
daemin•4m ago
I read this article after it was shared on social media by the Codeberg.org account so I though it was a PR piece, as it doesn't mention self hosting at all, just moving to another hosted platform.
bgwalter•21m ago
Corporate overreach like this happens if most open source developers no longer speak up because they want to be hired or retain their positions. They delude themselves if they think that attitude provides them any security. The opposite is the case: corporations will use the sycophants, secretly laugh about them and fire them if they have served their purpose. As in the case of the Google and Microsoft firings of Python core developers.

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