We all know he cannot prove anything, even if Tylenol loses, ensure they cost RFK jr lots of $ in defending himself.
Or is it, perhaps, possible that, if there is indeed a real increase in the rate of autism, it's because of something that has nothing to do with our modern pharmaceuticals?
Could it perhaps be related to the increases in various kinds of air pollution? Water pollution? Pesticides or herbicides in our foods? Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere?
Until there are reputable studies that can actually show something resembling a causal link, getting angry at the medical community, pharmaceutical manufacturers, or vaccine makes for saying they are not responsible is pointless and counterproductive. So far as everyone knows, it really wasn't them.
And while there may be some small subset of people "accusing suffering parents of being crazy", by and large that's also not something that's happening.
There was a marked increase in left-handedness once the 'stigma' of it was removed.
And modern agriculture practices result in lower amounts of less toxic substances in the food supply.
The West is on a decreasing trend of all those kind of pollution since the 70s.
“Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere?”.
It’s funny people are entertaining the hypothesis that EM radiation causes autism in the same conversation where they are trying to assure you that a drug that’s increasingly taken by pregnant women and that is proven to pass the placenta, is 100% harmless and can’t have anything to do with increased levels of autism.
Wrong approach. You prove that something is safe first (and there are ways to do it, one has to creative though) and then have people use it. One does not introduce something in the population and then trying to prove a causal link through stats. There are too many variable and it becomes easy to pass the buck by massaging numbers.
Surely you understand that that makes no sense at all? All of these medicines have already been tested and shown to be safe, based on the science and understanding of the time. That's why they're on the market in the first place.
For better or for worse, the burden of proof is now on those who want to show that they are dangerous.
Acetaminophen is better studied than like 99% of foods and supplements.
What? Who is supposedly calling parents of autistic children "crazy"?
Like cutting funding for autism research [1] and kids with autism on Medicaid [2]?
[1] https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2025/06/02/nih-autism-resear...
[2] https://nebraskaexaminer.com/2025/09/05/nebraska-lawmakers-h...
True. Infact I'd go so far as to say the medical community causes many of the health problem.
Speaking about empathy most people don't have it, not just the medical community. Even the victims will be victimizers at some point, it's very twisted situation.
( Btw, you have a very obvious pseudonym...)
Paracetamol/acetaminophen (the active ingredient in tylenol) is super toxic to the liver. Lots of people overdose on it, some by accident and some deliberately. As little as FOUR GRAMS can cause jaundice and fuck up your liver. If you have a fever, taking 1 gram every couple of hours might seem entirely reasonable, but it can kill you.
Regardless of any autism links, it's good to be careful with this stuff.
I don't know how you jumped from "it's dangerous to take in to high amounts, even 4 times the recommended dose is dangerous" to "the recommened dose is dangerous".
When taken correctly it is very safe and had fewer side effects then NSAIDs like ibuprofen.
A person in power makes unsubstantiated (and often disproven claims), and makes major decisions that affect all our lives based on those claims.
And the response ignores the fact that the people in power are making decisions based on complete nonsense and pointing to something fairly trivial that everyone knows about anyways.
I mean, I haven’t been to a doctor who hasn’t pointed out that there are limits to how much acetaminophen one can take. There’s a reason anything above a 650mg dose is prescription only. Theirs is a reason if you’re suffering from a severe fever doctors will give you both acetaminophen and ibuprofen and have you alternate them.
If there is a tiny minority that is apparently unaware of the fact that Tylenol in high doses can have adverse effects or at the very least not even aware of the fact that most medications need to be taken as prescribed or within the suggested limits, that’s a minuscule part of the problem relative to people in power making decisions based on unproven claims.
How many other medications would that apply to? Countless, I imagine. That’s why we have dosages on every bottle.
after I had dental surgery, I took paracetamol and ibuprofen in alternate doses every 4h - I would have been in screaming pain if I couldn't have both as an option.
It’s like saying jumping on subway tracks when there’s no train is entirely reasonable when there are ample warnings on the platform to not do that.
“ Regardless of any autism links” - there you go again with the innuendo. My dude if you want to warn about how dangerous Tylenol is in and of itself when misused, go right ahead, but leave autism out of it, you’re playing right into the “Tylenol cause autism” fearmonger’s hands.
This is very true. ( and no, he is not exaggerating)
This place is so infested with Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) and Musk Derangement Syndrome (MDS) that it's almost impossible to discuss anything even tangentially related to them on their actual merits. Even if RFK Jr. provides ironclad scientific proof of this link they'll just deny it.
Some of them probably add the Red 40 food coloring that he banned back to their food out of spite to stick it to MAGA and MAHA.
As far as I know he is really well read/informed - most people are not in that league and such people are completely dismissive of anything that is counter-narrative.
One gram every 2 hours is 12 grams which is on the lower end of toxic doses.
Despite common belief, concurrent alcohol consumption surprisingly does not increase risk, since alcohol competes for CYP2E1 and reduces the rate of production of the toxic metabolite NAPQI. Similarly for chronic liver disease. The use of NSAIDS (ibuprofen, etc) with cirrhosis is absolutely less safe than tylenol at therapeutic doses.
One could also take a look at pages like cheddar which track what they claim is unusual flow in options.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal
Tylenol only helps for minor aches and pains that frankly, pregnant mothers should just deal with for the good of their unborn child. The risk is not worth it.
RFK Jr. isn't right on everything, but he's not wrong on everything either and it's refreshing seeing someone head HHS that isn't in big pharma's pocket for a change.
Much better that he be in Big Wellness’s pocket which is an order of magnitude bigger, unregulated, and doesn’t need to provide evidence for their claims.
Please link to some credible sources showing that he's being paid off by someone.
has this ever stopped anybody?
Untreated symptoms are also bad for the baby, and other OTC painkillers are worse than acetaminophen. You have to become informed and choose the least bad option for your situation (trimester, medical history, etc) rather than let a demagogue point your outrage at a random imperfect solution.
Because there's no clear evidence to the contrary. Research and published papers would be more convincing here than an accusation.
> pregnant mothers should just deal with for the good of their unborn child
There's a number of things they should be restricted from for the good of the child of course, as men request. Blessed be the fruit. /s
So 10 times the typical dose is when you have overdose effects. (basically 20 pills per day vs 2 pills per day).
Not your "wildly unsafe at slightly above usage levels" AT ALL (as someone posted on here)
This is not harmless - this might cause someone to take more dangerous painkillers when acetaminophen (tylenol) might have safely helped them. The autism stuff is plainly false and disproved.
I wonder if Americans know how much of their society and culture bled incompletely into other countries via movies. Like for example after communism fell the youth here got hooked on American rap and hip-hop so we were using slang from those songs like friends calling each other the N word without knowing the context behind it since that's how black rappers addressed each other and they were rock stars here.
Wouldn't be the first time our government intentionally put everyone in harm's way.
https://www.thegauntlet.news/p/how-the-press-manufactured-co...
It was also a trend way before COVID hit the scene, but its mishandling by both capital-controlled parties at every step to this day, was so egregious as to rule out Hanlon's razor as an excuse long ago.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240802024326/https://docs.hous...
Notice the most recent approved drama to bicker about is COVID vaccine access, when those don't even reliably prevent transmission. The conversation doesn't include the fact that an N95 respirator is the only effect method of stopping transmission and endless reinfections, the latter of which increase chances for long COVID complications like heart failure and a whole list of other things.
Intentional depopulation is a recurring theme in the US.
It's one of the most commonly used medicines in the UK - and certainly the most popular painkiller.
YouGov even did a survey confirming that - https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/docume...
The safety aspects of it are not something that gets raised in the UK much - other than suicide attempts, which are going to happen no matter what medicine you use.
Probably the biggest risk comes from people not realising that other medicines (e.g. for cold and flu) often include it, so they double up on a dose.
https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2025/mount-sinai-s...
Like everything else in life, you must weigh all the risks and benefits.
Untreated fever also carries real risks - neural tube defects, congenital heart defects, orofacial clefts, miscarriage.
You need to treat fever, and NSAIDS have greater risks than acetaminophen.
It's irrational to let a minuscule and unproven risk dominate the decision when the other side of the balance has more evidence of larger risks to weigh.
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I remember an old study linking ultrasounds to lefthandedness. It was legit. Families with access to ultrasounds lived in countries/areas where lefthandedness was more culturally accepted, places where it was not drilled out of kids. The study was correct, but anyone touting it as causation was totally incorrect.
Fyi, sharks are way more likely to attack people with australian accents. Never go swimming with an auzzi.
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I wonder whether the political actors in question don't understand correlation != causation, or whether they hope that enough of the populace does not understand it in order to further some goal. But what goal? Buying cheap drug shares? Seems ... silly.