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Nix SC member tomberek works for Anduril

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/sc-member-tomberek-works-for-anduril/68971
3•todsacerdoti•1m ago•0 comments

A more perfect [derive] for Rust

https://esoterra.dev/blog/a-more-perfect-derive/
1•fanf2•2m ago•0 comments

Why – Decompression Through Inquiry

https://williamolivers.substack.com/p/whys
2•sainte-victoire•12m ago•0 comments

Helsinki just went a full year without a single traffic death

https://www.politico.eu/article/helsinki-no-traffic-death-roads-eu-accident-finland-driving-trans...
2•taubek•13m ago•0 comments

Inklings Society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inklings
1•melling•14m ago•1 comments

Show HN: A livestream of all image descriptions (alt text) on Bluesky

https://bobbiec.github.io/bluesky-alt-text.html
2•bobbiechen•14m ago•0 comments

Show HN: I Made An App You Cannot Use

https://hardestfocusapp.com/
5•mojambo96•16m ago•0 comments

Ukrainian Unmanned Systems Forces official live target tracker

https://sbs-group.army/subdivision/usf_grouping?period=custom
1•colonCapitalDee•17m ago•0 comments

Talk from DEF Con 33 (2025): Building a Malware Museum [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eC_wV5Nztc
2•mikkohypponen•27m ago•0 comments

The words we use to talk about nature are disappearing. Here's why that matters

https://grist.org/language/nature-word-language-disappear-culture/
1•rntn•30m ago•0 comments

VibeCoding is the new Video games

https://vibecodefixers.com:443/
3•Diablo556•31m ago•1 comments

The Evolution of Technical Scams: Why Developer Knowledge Isn't Enough

2•idrj•31m ago•0 comments

Breaking a sweat: Using chloride in sweat to help diagnose cystic fibrosis

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-08-chloride-cystic-fibrosis.html
1•PaulHoule•37m ago•0 comments

Copyright threats force AI firms to consider stronger deals with publishers

https://www.axios.com/2025/09/06/ai-publishers-deals-lawsuits
3•wslh•37m ago•0 comments

Nano Banana Hackathon Kit

https://github.com/google-gemini/nano-banana-hackathon-kit
1•andsoitis•39m ago•0 comments

A Humble Blog Post

https://www.nvegater.com/blog/TechExplorations2025
1•nvegater•41m ago•1 comments

Billionaire Crypto Investor Hits Out at Trump Family's Firm

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/05/business/trump-crypto-justin-sun.html
5•paulpauper•45m ago•0 comments

Crypto dev claims Trump-linked WLFI 'stole' his money

https://cointelegraph.com/news/developer-trump-wlfi-stealing-tokens
4•paulpauper•46m ago•0 comments

Iceland's Hafthor Bjornsson has broken his own Deadlift World Record with 510kg

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DORRV3FAjkR/
1•busymom0•47m ago•0 comments

US Visa Applications Must Be Submitted from Country of Residence or Nationality

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/News/visas-news/adjudicating-nonimmigrant-visa-applica...
64•cdipaolo•48m ago•58 comments

How HN: Tap Map App – crowdsourced beer prices in Edinburgh and London

2•pcrausaz•50m ago•0 comments

The Iranian Revolution Almost Didn't Happen

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/08/11/king-of-kings-the-iranian-revolution-scott-anderson...
2•haltingproblem•54m ago•1 comments

US to target more businesses after Hyundai raid

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-target-more-businesses-after-hyundai-rai...
23•DocFeind•55m ago•25 comments

Google Just Made Photography Obsolete (Nano Banana)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrY_WoleAJs
2•fallinditch•57m ago•1 comments

The Compensation Principle

1•SharkTheory•59m ago•0 comments

Sean Duffy orders NASA employees "do not let safety be the enemy of progress"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/interim-nasa-head-tells-agency-will-beat-china-back-moon-rcn...
6•ck2•59m ago•1 comments

Campfire: Web-Based Chat Application

https://github.com/basecamp/once-campfire
20•thunderbong•1h ago•9 comments

75ms or Bust: Accelerating Development Velocity Through Hard Performance Limits

https://engineering.aethren.com/blog/75ms-or-bust-accelerating-development-velocity
1•ggoudeau•1h ago•0 comments

ASML investing €1.3B for Mistral's Series C funding round, the top shareholder

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/asml-becomes-mistral-ais-top-shareholder-after-leading-lates...
2•donsupreme•1h ago•0 comments

Can You Shoot a Bullet Out of the Air? [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjXeGtMnK4g
1•mfrw•1h ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Delayed Security Patches for AOSP (Android Open Source Project)

https://twitter.com/grapheneos/status/1964561043906048183
112•transpute•3h ago

Comments

delecti•1h ago
XCancel link which will show the thread context if you aren't logged in to Twitter: https://xcancel.com/grapheneos/status/1964561043906048183
flotzam•1h ago
"No tags were pushed to AOSP for the July 2025 monthly release of Android. We asked about this on the android-building group but each of our posts was rejected. We emailed people at Google we've previously contacted about mistakes pushing tags but received no response this time."

https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1952413110947430786

"July monthly release was not pushed to AOSP and then neither was the August monthly release. September quarterly release hasn't been pushed yet."

https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1963812920673861981

dvrj101•1h ago
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ACCount37•54m ago
And so, Google's war on open Android continues.

Fucking hell. Can Google stop being evil for like 5 minutes? It's like they can't go a week without coming up with some new fucked up thing to do to their already tormented mobile ecosystem.

scottbez1•52m ago
This is entirely unsurprising. It's been clear that Google has been into their Android duopoly-abusive stage for a while now, with more and more of their Android changes moving into GMS or non-AOSP Google apps (like camera, messages, location services, etc) over the last decade. Graphene has been doomed to this fate for a long time, and anyone who thought otherwise was naively optimistic.

The same is clearly coming for Chromium forks, which is why I've always thought the privacy and ad-blocking forks are a joke - if they ever gain enough marketshare, or if google just tires of the public open source charade, they have no chance of maintaining a modern browser on their own.

This is all the more likely now that Google has been emboldened by not having to sell off Chrome for anticompetitive reasons.

ACCount37•47m ago
Just a year prior, I would have been against a decision to force Google to part with either Android or Chrome.

Now, I'm of the opinion that they should have been forced to sell off both, and maybe Chromebooks too, for the good measure.

No company with a direction as vile and openly user-hostile as what Google currently demonstrates should have anywhere near this level of control over the ecosystem.

wmf•35m ago
I wonder if Android and Chrome would support open source even less as independent companies though.
scottbez1•34m ago
The sad thing is I think Google keeping Chrome is actually likely the better of two possible bad outcomes... Anyone else interested and willing to pay the true value of owning the entire Internet ecosystem is almost certainly going to look to extract value from that, and that's almost certainly worse than what Google does today. E.g. using everyone's browser to extract training data for AI without getting IP blocked.
palata•18m ago
Split it to a point where no one company can own the entire Internet ecosystem. Apply antitrust laws to keep it like this.

Maybe the development will slow down, but let's be honest: we would still be fine if Android and iOS had stopped "improving" years ago. Now it's mostly about adding shiny AI features and squeeze the users.

gruez•9m ago
>Split it to a point where no one company can own the entire Internet ecosystem. Apply antitrust laws to keep it like this.

Facebook was once small too. Yet people happily signed up, giving up their privacy in the process. What makes you think the remaining companies offering a free browser wouldn't try to monetize users in a similar way? How many people are willing to pay $5/month for a browser?

palata•1m ago
> Yet people happily signed up, giving up their privacy in the process.

When Facebook started, it was a different era. And since then, Facebook has clearly abused their position with anti-competitive behaviours.

> How many people are willing to pay $5/month for a browser?

If they can keep using Google Chrome for free, we already know the answer. If the only way for them to have a reasonable browser would to pay... who knows? People pay more than that to access movies that they could download as torrents.

Also does it have to be 5$ per month? Do browsers need to keep adding so many features, and hence so many bugs and security issues, that only huge companies can keep up and nobody wants to pay for that work?

Maybe it's enough to pay 1$/year for a company to maintain a reasonably secure browser with the features that people actually need. Do people actually need QUIC? Not sure.

ACCount37•7m ago
A year or so ago, I would have agreed. Not anymore.

Sure, a company can buy Chrome and proceed to sell user browsing habits data to the highest bidder, or use it as a backbone for decentralized scraping - backed by real user data and real residential IPs to fool most anti-scraping checks. But if they fuck with users enough, Chrome would just die off over time, and Firefox or various Chromium forks like Brave would take its place. This already happened to the browsing titan that was IE, and without the entire power of Google to push Chrome? It can happen again.

The alternative is Google owning Chrome for eternity - and proceeding with the most damaging initiatives possible. Right now, Google is seeking to destroy adblocking, tighten the control over the ad data ecosystem to undermine their competitors, and who knows what else they'll come up with next week.

izacus•4m ago
And by destroying the Android development team you'd achieve what exactly? Magical appearance of the security patches you're complaining about here?

Would you start to actually pay for all those hundreds of engineers maintaining the OS?

ACCount37•1m ago
Either the new company takes over maintaining Android, or it fumbles the bag and the development becomes less centralized for a while - until some leader emerges and takes over.

Either way, the new control center of Android wouldn't be Google. A decade ago, I would have seen that as a bad thing. Now, I'm almost certain that this would be a change for the better. Google is not what it once was.

cosmic_cheese•41m ago
Yep. If we’re gonna be forking browsers, Firefox should be the base, not Chromium. Mozilla is in much less of a position to abuse their position, and more Firefox forks means more chances that one catches on with some slice of the larger public and helps chip away at Blink hegemony.
palata•10m ago
> This is all the more likely now that Google has been emboldened by not having to sell off Chrome for anticompetitive reasons.

Exactly. The only thing that can prevent this behaviour is regulations. But apparently nobody wants to regulate, so we're screwed.

mdasen•49m ago
Google sold Android to nerds as open source. We thought that mobile operating systems would be won by the "Linux of mobile OSs."

But Google has made sure that didn't happen and we're left with devices more locked down than the proprietary Windows ecosystem we were hoping to leave in the past - and with a company in charge looking to exert even more power over us than Microsoft did.

arcane23•33m ago
The trick is adding a ton of features which expose extra attack surface that needs them to maintain and fix, under the pretense that it will make everyone's life easier. Make it complicated enough so that the community cannot maintain it, enabling the corporation to throw its weight around.
cosmic_cheese•3m ago
It’s the perfected form of what MS was trying to achieve with IE back in the 90s. All the power of a closed source monopoly, further enhanced by friends and foes alike incorporating your tech as a load-bearing pillar of their strategies, with a cloak of plausible deniability in the form of an open source repo protecting you from antitrust enforcement. A true have your cake and eat it situation.
gessha•48m ago
> We want to make sure that if you download an app from a developer, regardless of where you get it, it's actually from them. That's it.

In what scenario is this a serious threat because I can't think of any.

charcircuit•47m ago
It sounds like EV certificates, and it turned out that in practice no one cared about id verification.
wmf•42m ago
People are installing banking apps that are actually from criminals. Basically app phishing.
OutOfHere•36m ago
Let's not call them banking apps. They're not. They're scam apps.

The problem represented in the tweet is deeper. It is about not receiving patches which means the device is basically unsafe to use altogether.

dvrj101•30m ago
> People are installing banking apps that are actually from criminals.

and this identification does nothing about that, this is not to protect users. such phishing are always found on play-store alone.

OutOfHere•46m ago
I hope that this action, along with Google's refusal to correctly safeguard and segregate apps, costs Google all of Android in the long term. Neither deserves to exist.

Any thoughts on Linux phones?

add-sub-mul-div•37m ago
Unchecked Apple without real competition would be worse than the status quo.
OutOfHere•34m ago
That is a misrepresentation because Samsung, Huawei, and various Linux vendors each will have their own answer, their own alterative. In no universe will Apple be without competition. Apple is not even a consideration since it doesn't allow unapproved app installation anyway.
odo1242•27m ago
Android only ever had a chance because it is one ecosystem. Developers aren't going to develop for five slightly-different ecosystems in a trench coat.
OutOfHere•26m ago
> Developers aren't going to develop for five slightly-different ecosystems

The point, perhaps, is for one to emerge as the prominent choice, the correct one. Diversity however has its own value.

palata•20m ago
I wish Android manufacturers contributed to AOSP, so that it would still be one ecosystem, but with shared ownership. But I guess it's more profitable for all of them to let Google do it on their own. And it sucks for the user, because we have to live with Google's decisions.
charcircuit•24m ago
There already are multiple different android ecosystems today. For example Samsung has SDKs that have features when targeting their flavor of Android. There will still be a common base.
palata•22m ago
It is a shame that those companies don't contribute to AOSP (or fork it). Apparently Huawei decided that they would do better alone with their own HarmonyOS, but I don't get it. It could be so powerful if AOSP was actually shared between the Android manufacturers...

I would happily leave Android and go with such a fork. Instead, each (Samsung, Huawei, ...) try to make their own thing. And good luck to them to beat Android on their own.

arcane23•41m ago
Seems like there needs to be a split of both hardware and software. Mobile phones morphed into something else lately. Not all of us need all the features of a smart phone, but still need a comms device. We need a simpler OS with simpler hardware that focuses on comms and less features. Simpler OS, lower attack surface, simpler to maintain without the help of a gigantic corporation. I don't need a supercomputer in my pocket.
gruez•39m ago
>Not all of us need all the features of a smart phone, but still need a comms device. [...] I don't need a supercomputer in my pocket.

What's stopping you from using a feature phone?

arcane23•37m ago
Security/privacy?
gruez•20m ago
So you want a $100 feature phone that has serious security features like monthly security patches and dedicated security coprocessors? It's tough to make the economics of that work out. All the serious security features costs money to implement, either in the form of development costs or added costs to the BOM. Those costs can be absorbed if you're selling a $600 phone, but not a $100 phone. If you try to add those features to a $100 phone, it'll end up making the phone more expensive, which means nobody but security freaks would buy your phone, and you lose economies of scale that's needed to make a phone at all.

Back to your point, there's already a "split of hardware and software" in the PC market, and we know how it works out. Security there is a joke. Windows might be getting monthly security patches, but the same can't be said of the panoply of third party drivers/firmware. Whenever microsoft tries to push for better security they get shouted down by people claiming it's some sort of conspiracy to implement DRM.

arcane23•7m ago
You missed my point, a simpler hardware/software phone needs less resources to maintain. No eyecandy/cushy features to maintain, security becomes easier to maintain by the community. No constantly added features and gimmicks which break and introduce weak points.

Let's not forget that all these "features" which enable corporations like Google take complete control over the project also end up driving price up, constantly. Cheap phones are a sh*t iteration of more expensive phones, instead of being simpler more basic implementations of must have features without the "quality of life" bloat on the top tier models. They should have a different tier OS rather than the same one.

I would also not make the parallel between comms devices and PCs, they're different beasts.

markus_zhang•15m ago
I don’t even want a smart phone if the banks/trading firms don’t force me to use a phone for auth. I keep a used smart phone for company stuffs (again auth) and bank stuffs.
charcircuit•40m ago
Security of the Android ecosystem should not be compromised just to make the lives of Googlers easier in handling the public, internal, and pixel branches of AOSP.
palata•31m ago
The only reason that would make me fear from an antitrust judgement splitting Android from Google is that it may lose the Google contributions to AOSP.

Google is more and more showing that they really don't want to contribute to AOSP.

So for me, Android should be split out of Google. Maybe the other Android manufacturers will start contributing to AOSP, and maybe Android will die. But let me be honest: if Google keeps going this way, I will move to an iPhone (and I've been using and developing for Android forever). We may as well try the split, and if it fails I'll end up with an iPhone anyway.

neilv•29m ago
Looks like PostmarketOS (mainline Linux for phones, with choice of frontend, such as Plasma Mobile or Phosh) has demoted all their previous "Main"-tier devices to "Community" or lower tier:

https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices#Main

Anyone know whether this is a sign of a push for being daily driver quality? Or a sign that volunteers previously doing promising work have drifted away, and they're acknowledging that?

fabrice_d•20m ago
Main is described as "The most supported devices, with all the features and stability you'd expect from a regular OS."

Unfortunately there was/is no device supported by postmarketOS that fits that description. You'll need at least good telephony support including 4G features like VoLTE, proper camera support (not potato polaroid from the 80s quality), Wifi, Bluetooth, geolocation, working GPU acceleration, media hardware decoders, decent battery life. And I'm probably forgetting a few things.

Let's hope that initiatives like https://liberux.net/ will help make a fully working, long lasting device available!

palata•12m ago
Unfortunately, and as much as I like Linux for phones, I think it's very, very far from AOSP. It completely misses the AOSP security model and the apps (no, I don't believe that running waydroid on Linux is entirely viable, otherwise instead of Linux for phone we would have Waydroid as an alternative to Android).

I think the only realistic alternative would be to build upon AOSP properly, with Google being just a contributor instead of the owner. But it cannot come from a community fork by someone in their garage, it has to come from Android manufacturers. I was hoping that Huawei would start something like that, instead they went with their own HarmonyOS.