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AP Live: View from Gaza as Israel Begins Expanded Operation in Gaza City

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=autLCRVLwsQ
42•zahirbmirza•1h ago

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zahirbmirza•1h ago
Forced Displacement.
austin-cheney•1h ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_displacement

When forced displacement is paired with food/starvation as a weapon it becomes a genocide. The recent senate report just carefully labels it as a deliberate ethnic cleansing.

https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/van_hollen_me...

n1b0m•57m ago
Also a UN commission of inquiry.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/16/israel-committ...

FirmwareBurner•1h ago
US's & Germany's greatest ally.
throw9032Xx•42m ago
Current US president wants to build golf resorts with golden statues of himself!

If anything, US citizens who emigrated to Israel, have great share of responsibility!

FirmwareBurner•34m ago
>If anything, US citizens who emigrated to Israel, have great share of responsibility!

What about AIPAC members?

asim•55m ago
It is officially declared a genocide by the UN commission.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go

FirmwareBurner•54m ago
The UN is just a glorified board room for countries to discuss things, it has no executive powers over its permanent security council members and their allies.

Basically, the UN can declare whatever they want, but there's nothing stopping the likes of US and Russia to ignore it and do the opposite of that.

It's the League of Nations all over again. Nothing has been learned.

crinkly•51m ago
It also spent the last few years making the problems out there worse. They are themselves complicit in this outcome.

There are no winners in this conflict on either side.

FirmwareBurner•38m ago
>There are no winners in this conflict on either side.

There is ONE winner here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

the_gipsy•44m ago
I think we all know this, it's very obvious.

What is crazy is that, even a denouncement, is coming way too late. Now some countries are, very slowly, starting to talk about what this is: a genocide. It's horrible that it's so slow, and there is so much support or inaction towards the state of Israel.

oulipo2•44m ago
Still, IT IS A GENOCIDE.
karel-3d•55m ago
Where do they got internet connectivity?

I know there is Paltel in West Bank; but I don't know if they are still operating in Gaza.

FirmwareBurner•55m ago
Starlink?
karel-3d•48m ago
Isn't that too slow for live feed? The live feed looks very good quality, and they look like they are sitting in a truck now, so I doubt they can cary starlink antenna
hn-user-42•31m ago
As I understand live streaming, you can live stream from Mars with 20 minutes delay. Live stream is not same as 2 way communication like Google Meet.

Starship live streaming is made possible by Starlink. Starlink latency is not bad but it's not suitable for online gaming.

crinkly•49m ago
Jawwal who are owned by Paltel.
anonu•54m ago
We will look back at this moment in our history and wonder how we let it happen.
internet_points•22m ago
What can we do, in addition to what we're already doing? For example, in Norway, the recently elected leading coalition is (mostly) very vocal about ending the genocide. And the sovereign oil fund just divested out of quite a lot of the genocide-profiteers (including Caterpillar, who sell displacement-as-a-service, leading to threats of more tariffs from the US). And there are flotillas of activists trying again and again to sail with aid towards the Gaza strip, getting themselves attacked by drones (even in Tunisian waters, long before reaching Gaza). We donate to savethechildren etc. but most of the aid isn't even allowed in. This is not a case of "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". The enemies of humanity, decency and righteousness are just so overwhelmingly strong.
crinkly•13m ago
Speaking from a European perspective, based on what we're doing with the other conflicts going on that aren't on our borders directly, fuck all. Iran has a larger marketing budget than Darfur.
the_gipsy•49m ago
Genocide live stream. What a time to be alive.
throw9032Xx•48m ago
It is not safe to flee south of Gaza, there is no infrastructure there to support millions of refugees! Refugees should go to Israel, it is much better equip to host refugees from this conflict!

NO BORDERS!!

crinkly•36m ago
Yeah that's not going to happen. Every single surrounding country has a bad history with Palestinians citizens. No Arab nation is interested. They just say enough to keep their own population from kicking off another Arab Spring while hoping Israel will make their problem go away.

The only thing that is consistent is that it's a hypocritical shit show out there.

sirfz•14m ago
Please keep your bigotry out of HN. Palestinian refugees in Gaza must be allowed to return to their homelands inside occupied Palestine and Gazans obviously should be allowed to stay in Gaza.
oulipo2•44m ago
This is a GENOCIDE

There is no other word

machina_ex_deus•35m ago
The real genocide is the barbaric acts of Hamas in 7th of October. They could have released the hostages and this operation wouldn't happen. We're not going to tolerate Hamas any longer, we're not going to allow for a second 7th of October. We couldn't care less what the world has to say, this is life and death situation for Israel.

If you had such a threat to murder you and rape your daughters and kidnap you, you wouldn't stay idle. If your kid was kidnapped and held in starvation you wouldn't rest until he's returned.

The world is hypocritical and simply hates Jews.

crinkly•20m ago
I’m looking at the long game and it’s arguably worse than that as well. Are Hamas going to down weapons if they win and magically create some progressive society as promoted on TikTok?

Nope! Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt next. And they'll use your weapons to do it.

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