They could have simply notified the company and the people about a potential problem with their visas/paperwork and asked them to provide documentation otherwise or if their visas were expired/improper to return to Korea and apply for a new visa.
Has even this been established? It sounds like the question is whether their work falls outside of the business allowed under that program, and the terminology doesn’t appear to be well-defined enough to say.
legitster•4mo ago
“This was not a immigration operation where agents went into the premises, rounded up folks, and put them on buses. This has been a multi-month criminal investigation where we have developed evidence and conducted interviews, gathered documents and presented that evidence to the court in order to obtain a judicial search warrant.”
I like that when justifying the raid, the agent in charge of the raid tacitly admitted they do regularly just burst onto a premise and round up people for buses.
It's worth pointing out that the people behind this raid are not recently appointed hacks - and that this was not at the direct mandate of the current administration. What is actually happening here is the entire agency is staffed with attack dogs who act without impunity or shame. And the only difference is that they feel emboldened to act, and whoever was in charge of oversight to hold them back is no longer there.
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potato3732842•4mo ago
That's how these sort of BigCo regulatory compliance things almost always go.
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JumpCrisscross•4mo ago
The point is everyone may have broken the law. Hyundai. These individuals. And the ICE agents acting outside the colour of law.
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legitster•4mo ago
Counterpoint: the policy of how we treat foreign workers is a policy discussion. Even if it's legal to round them up and deny them due process, it (a) shouldn't be and (b) is going to overall hurt our economy and make America a less desirable place to do business.
mixmastamyk•4mo ago
https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/sep/10/south-korea-w...
You (or I) may not like the law or policy, but that should be a separate discussion. We have rules; they should be followed. If they are bad they should be changed.
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mixmastamyk•4mo ago
(I understand some jarheads or managers might want to make a show of it, and probably should be reprimanded if so.)
But the process is the process and an acceptable compromise. I get the feeling everyone passing judgment here has little info on the situation on the ground—news soundbites are not enough.
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muwtyhg•4mo ago
This quote implies that there are immigration operations where people do these things, and that this particular instance is not an example of that type of operation.
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potato3732842•4mo ago
BigCo is angry the .gov thugs showed up unannounced and dragged their dicks all over everything like they're the goddamn DEA seizing the entire contents of an autobody shop because one of the techs was involved in drug running shit.
The .gov thugs respond "we didn't abuse you like some little fish, we akshually built a case" as if that justfies it.
Everyone should be enraged by both sides here because both sides statements are clearly predicated on the assumption that what they do is perfectly ok.
BigCo shouldn't be getting away with "it looks good if you squint and my lawyer will tell you why" sketchy compliance stuff that the little guy can't. And the .gov should be treating the little guy with the same respect that they would a BigCo who can pay a big law firm to get their stuff in order.
glitchc•4mo ago