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Valkan – Network scanner Exploration vulnerability

https://github.com/Vyzer9/Valkan
1•vyzerxy9•1m ago•0 comments

RNKD – Create polls with ranked choice voting

https://rnkd.xyz
1•zdw•4m ago•1 comments

Why You Love That Ikea Table, Even If It's Crooked

https://www.npr.org/2013/02/06/171177695/why-you-love-that-ikea-table-even-if-its-crooked
2•pykello•10m ago•0 comments

U.S. Government Expected to Get Multibillion-Dollar Fee in TikTok Deal

https://www.wsj.com/business/deals/u-s-government-expected-to-get-multibillion-dollar-fee-in-tikt...
4•JumpCrisscross•15m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Water Cooler Chat

https://cooler.chat
1•ldom22•17m ago•0 comments

Pentagon demands journalists pledge to not obtain unauthorized material

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/09/19/pentagon-hegseth-press-unauthorized-material/
4•anigbrowl•17m ago•0 comments

Starobinsky Inflation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starobinsky_inflation
1•wslh•27m ago•0 comments

Be Simple

https://corrode.dev/blog/simple/
1•zdw•31m ago•0 comments

Show HN: I built a TradingView alternative using AI

https://www.aulico.com/
1•trustprocesses•32m ago•0 comments

A 70 year old museum heist is still causing a flutter in butterfly science today

https://science.anu.edu.au/news-events/news/museum-heist-70-years-ago-still-causing-flutter-butte...
2•tlyleung•32m ago•0 comments

The H-1B Visa Program and Its Impact on the U.S. Economy

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/h1b-visa-program-fact-sheet/
4•rramadass•33m ago•1 comments

Are you an experienced software buyer? I could use some help

https://charity.wtf/2025/09/19/are-you-an-experienced-software-buyer-i-could-use-some-help/
1•zdw•33m ago•0 comments

Notion Agents

https://twitter.com/ivanhzhao/status/1968761820241609063
1•lewisjoe•34m ago•1 comments

Globally Aware Optimization with Resurgence

https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.01329
1•E-Reverance•38m ago•0 comments

The Weird OS Built Around a Database [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZBQMRmW7k
2•PaulHoule•41m ago•0 comments

Age Discrimination

https://humanrights.gov.au/our-work/age-discrimination
3•wslh•42m ago•0 comments

I build a tools to calculate how much VRAM is needed to run LLMs

https://www.kolosal.ai/memory-calculator
2•SmilingSuccess•46m ago•2 comments

Albania Appoints AI Government Minister

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1968700801305477550
2•twapi•48m ago•0 comments

Judge tells Meta not to share Instagram users' information with Trump admin

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/19/judge-tells-meta-not-to-share-instagram-users-informatio...
8•c420•48m ago•0 comments

Older People Are Losing Their Life Savings to Family Members

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-18/elder-financial-abuse-is-on-the-rise-as-cost-o...
2•wslh•59m ago•4 comments

Memes vs Censors in China (2014)

https://uschinatoday.org/features/2014/04/30/memes-vs-censors-in-china/
2•lawrenceyan•1h ago•0 comments

The Netherlands is the second-biggest agricultural exporter

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-netherlands-is-the-second-biggest-agricultural-exporter-2025-9
2•teleforce•1h ago•0 comments

Things Managers Do That Leaders Never Would

https://simonsinek.com/stories/5-things-managers-do-that-leaders-never-would-according-to-simon/
2•9x39•1h ago•0 comments

IdTech4A++ – id Tech engine games for Android and other platforms

https://github.com/glKarin/com.n0n3m4.diii4a
1•retro_guy•1h ago•0 comments

Meta CTO explains why the smart glasses demos failed at Meta Connect

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/meta-cto-explains-why-smart-160411733.html
7•karp773•1h ago•3 comments

The Agentic TUI for Go Codebases;)

https://github.com/piqoni/vogte
4•Bogdanp•1h ago•0 comments

Topology of "China AI"

https://afraw.substack.com/p/topology-of-china-ai
1•latentnumber•1h ago•0 comments

How Steam can ruin more than 10 years of your work

https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1nfd2ji/this_is_how_steam_can_ruin_more_than_10_years_of/
3•Improvement•1h ago•1 comments

Grok 4 Fast

https://x.ai/news/grok-4-fast
7•meetpateltech•1h ago•0 comments

Multiscreen Device Play (MSDP) on Android [video]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_J7LfKgrEzk
1•eric_khun•1h ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Did you read the quarter-million-line license for your Slack app?

https://mastodon.mit.edu/@Eggfreckles/114825126857396420
74•leakycap•2h ago

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leakycap•2h ago
And we provide these apps with data and collaboration we rely on for our business or clubs day-to-day?

Time to rethink.

nettlin•1h ago
This file does not contain the terms of service of Slack. Rather, it contains the software licenses of third-party code that is embedded in Chromium, which in turn is embedded in the Slack app. Every dependency has its own license, which is why the file is so big (800× Apache-2.0, 237× MIT, 59× LGPL, and so on).
zahlman•42m ago
Why can't it deduplicate matching licenses?
throwup238•41m ago
The legal department doesn't want to take that chance.
phendrenad2•37m ago
Lawyers can make mistakes, but to REALLY mess things up, you need lawyers and some engineers to take them too seriously.
cruffle_duffle•25m ago
That goes true of basically every hard core expert. They might be wildly smart in their domain… and that is it.
Uehreka•36s ago
I think it might be the case that licenses often include the authors’ names in the “this code is copyright of so-and-so” (as you can see, I Am Not A Lawyer) section, which might be considered part of the text of the license, thereby making it a requirement to include the full license text for each dependency.
hmartin•30m ago
Title of this post is blatantly misleading for using the singular 'license'.
neuroelectron•1h ago
I can't really understand the point of using Slack. There's so many free alternatives.
guerrilla•58m ago
Someone also explain to me how gamers of all people can live with Discord when the thing barely works.
greenavocado•55m ago
Wait until you find out both Ukrainian and Russian military were using Discord to communicate
superb_dev•54m ago
Wait until you find out that the interim prime minister of Nepal was elected on Discord
jbaber•54m ago
When I installed matrix, I thought it was an example of FOSS UI being crummy. Then I found out they were actually doing a good job of emulating discord.
dade_•46m ago
Except that Matrix is a protocol.
bigstrat2003•50m ago
Because it actually works pretty well most of the time. I'm not sure where you get "barely works" from, but that's not remotely my experience or the experience of anyone I know. And of course, network effects are strong so that keeps people using it even through the occasional hiccups.

As for how it got its foothold, it comes down to having an easier onboarding than the solutions it competed with. With Mumble (or Ventrilo, etc) someone has to pay for a server. Then you have to download the client, get the host and port to connect to, enter credentials, and so on. Repeat for every server you might join. With Discord, once your account is set up you just click on a link and join the server. You don't even have to use the client if you don't want; you can join from the browser just fine. I don't think the friction of using previous solutions was actually bad, but it was enough to give Discord an edge even without the integrated chat+voice angle (which is something that those other programs never did and still don't do).

guerrilla•4m ago
> I'm not sure where you get "barely works" from, but that's not remotely my experience or the experience of anyone I know.

Alright, I'm exaggerating but I've never had as many problems with such a popular app of that class. I'm literally locked out right now due to a known bug (confirmed by support) and this isn't even the first time. Then there were months when recording voice notes (of all things) didn't work on Android. So many other little random things. If YouTube or something behaved that way I'd be shocked. It's a ghetto in comparison.

Yeah, I get what you're saying about friction. I'm complaining as someone who's fine with Signal and IRC, so not the target audience. Someone else also mentioned that the performance may have been better early on as well. I find that hard to believe but I'll trust ya'll for now.

chillfox•35m ago
Because when Discord released it had less impact on game performance than any of the other solutions at the time. And these days it’s still great, so only a fantastic solution will be able to replace it. But maybe in a few more years of enshitification it will be easier for something new to be better than it.
ProAm•57m ago
One throat to choke... is why. Enterprise grade sales and support.
throwaway20222•51m ago
Would you happen to have a stack ranked list of favorites off the top of your head?
bigstrat2003•48m ago
If you mean for individuals, it's because that's what their job uses. If you mean for the companies deciding to use Slack, it's because most companies significantly prefer to pay someone for a supported product than use a free product which they have to have their own staff support.
wilg•57m ago
This is simply downstream of open source working as intended. It's also not a problem, and also there's no good solution.
leakycap•18m ago
> It's also not a problem, and also there's no good solution.

I have worked with people who have this attitude and I wonder how they're doing these days.

I hope they haven't ran into any problems they cannot simply dismiss as not problems that don't have solutions.

GuestFAUniverse•47m ago
My first computer had a 10MB HDD. * I could program with it comfortably (e.g. Turbo Pascal). * I could play with it (Civ, Day of the Tentacle with a few tricks, ...) * I could run a office suite. * I could communicate via mail and newsgroups

In short: all problems back than could be solved at home.

And yeah, I know that barely anybody cares _how utterly_ wasteful software has become.

theideaofcoffee•38m ago
But think of the dEvElopEr exPeRienCe! They may have to slow down on the rate they are shitting things out to actually learn a native system/UI toolkit, or, gasp, write it a few different times for different environments! Thats gonna affect some bonuses for sure.
JED3•41m ago
honestly the slack app store and it’s ridiculous policies makes publishing apps completely unworthy of the time investment. after having published numerous apps across dozens of marketplaces, I would advise everyone to avoid apps.slack.com at all costs. slack is beyond the maximum bloat threshold in virtually every aspect imaginable, TOS and licensing most especially. build elsewhere
hliyan•40m ago
We need to return to a world where we primarily own things, not rent them. If the software executable can be thought of as a machine, we should be able to own the version/instance of it we purchased the license for. We may not own the intellectual property, but we should have enough ownership to install it on a personal cloud computer we own and run it until such time we need to upgrade it.
kristianc•37m ago
Buy Campfire instead? https://once.com/campfire
piskov•35m ago
It’s free and under MIT (though no too long ago this wasn’t the case)
kristianc•33m ago
Yeah, I see you're right. I had in my head it was around a $200 fee?