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Open in hackernews

Disney reinstates Jimmy Kimmel after backlash over capitulation to FCC

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/09/disney-abc-reinstate-jimmy-kimmel-amid-uproar-over-government-censorship/
206•tomrod•4mo ago

Comments

throwaway48476•4mo ago
The FCC was created in order to prevent the airing of opinions the government disfavored.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin

tomrod•4mo ago
Never heard of him before. Thanks for sharing.
mullingitover•4mo ago
Government licensing of radio spectrum preceded the FCC and was in response to the RF chaos that hampered the rescue operation after the sinking of the Titanic[1].

[1] https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/radio-act-of-1912/

throwaway48476•4mo ago
That's why I wrote "the FCC" of which is the thread subject.
coderintherye•4mo ago
You are spreading misinformation. The FCC existed before Coughlin. Furthermore, the FCC declined to take action on Coughlin despite all the pressure it got from the public. Instead, it was the National Association of Broadcasters that forced him off the air.
throwaway48476•4mo ago
Coughlin started broadcasting in 1926. The FCC was created in 1934.

How exactly did the FCC exist before him?

legitster•4mo ago
This is incredibly hyperbolic and misleading. The Communications Act of 1934 was passed for a variety of very necessary reasons at the time, the most important being making sure broadcasters didn't hijack each other's signals.

Coughlin's show coincided with the creation of the FCC and they never really tangled. His show was pulled off the network a full 5 years after the FCC was established. FCC regulation may have had a part in that, but there is no reason to believe he in particular was targeted and certainly not that the law was passed to target him.

ajross•4mo ago
In an amusingly bald bit of Wikipedia editorializing, while the Coughlin page links to the Communications Act page in the context of (as the upthread throwaway account[1] says) half-implying that it was created to censor opinions...

...the actual page linked doesn't mention Coughlin at all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Act_of_1934

[1] The habit of throwing discussion bombs like this from throwaway accounts is another sign of HN's decay.

ajross•4mo ago
For anyone interested, I went digging. In fact the citation for that (FCC Chair) McNinch quote that is (not quite correctly) excerpted in the Coughlin article is a 1938 Times article talking about how he'd "recently" said it in a speech (I can't find a cite for the speech itself).

The FCC was created in 1934, four years earlier. So arguing from this basis that it was created to censor is clearly just plain wrong. The wikipedia narrative on the Coughlin page is basically a lie.

mateus1•4mo ago
I think the word "censorship" applies here.
Jensson•4mo ago
He wouldn't be reinstated if it was censorship. The government didn't back down, just Disney did. This just shows Disney wasn't forced to remove him as some thought, they cancelled his show willingly so could take it back.
insane_dreamer•4mo ago
The gov openly pressured Disney to drop him -- that's what censorship is.

The fact that Disney reversed course (based on whatever internal calculations we don't know) doesn't mean it wasn't censorship to begin with.

stanfordkid•4mo ago
The reasoning for why they canned him is a total facade. Nothing he said was really that inflammatory. They canned him because they were afraid the FCC would screw them, then they saw their viewers were angry so they re-negged. Run of the mill spineless bean counters. They kind of won it both ways though, because they were able to feign loyalty and show gov't they only re-instated "because they had to for the money", which Trump will empathize with.
Computer0•4mo ago
I believe statements directed at Donald's emotional reaction to the incident were the most impactful to any direct reaction from the White House.
defrost•4mo ago
To Donald's credit he gave a moving and eloquent eulogy for the First Amendment at the recent memorial.
masfuerte•4mo ago
"reneged"
tptacek•4mo ago
I mostly agree, but the conditions that would upset Trump still exist; more so, in fact, because of the outsized attention this got for Kimmel. And yet here he comes anyways!
shadowgovt•4mo ago
It's worth remembering that Disney is a mega-corporation and all their calculus is like this. They aren't "on our side" (or, for that matter, particularly against LGBTQIA+ interests); they're on the side with money. A company that size doesn't have morals; it has assets and liabilities.

That's why the Disney+ boycott / cancellation response mattered: it forced them to put losing their ABC network affiliate broadcast rights from the government on the T-sheet against losing their expensive bet on Disney+ (and all the consolidation power and direct-feedline money that brings in). If the viewers hadn't acted to put something on the other side of the T-sheet, it'd be an easy choice for the company.

fennecbutt•4mo ago
Only after a backlash. I'm sure Jimmy will still take it because what other choice does he have really.

But if he were solid he'd do a Johnny Depp and be like "never working with you fuckers again".

Granted, he has a lot more support staff whose jobs he needs to worry about, too.

jordand•4mo ago
He's still under contract with ABC too so he's not got an easy way out
apsurd•4mo ago
Good last line. Yep, I immediately thought of all the behind the camera people it takes to run a show like that.

Conan O'brien also notably ensured his entire team was account for during the whole Tonight Show debacle, and onward.

tobyjsullivan•4mo ago
I think that last line is getting to the point more than most of the discussion I see.

The host of the show doesn’t really decide what he’s going to say. He reads the script the writers deliver (with his approval, I’m sure). He’s the talking head of a production team.

Jimmy Kimmel the person didn’t get taken off the air. Jimmy Kimmel the show did.

That makes it relatively easy to go back on the air, if they simply give new direction (constraints) to the writing team that satisfy the network.

If I were to guess, I doubt Jimmy Kimmel the person cares what the team is or is not allowed to write in the script.

ChrisArchitect•4mo ago
[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45338613
throwaway48476•4mo ago
Dupe is flagged.
tomrod•4mo ago
Weird, this isnt a controversial story at all. FCC dramatically overstepped on free speech, cooler and saner heads prevailed.
1970-01-01•4mo ago
You should not find it weird to see any comment in this thread immediately flagged due to an opposing view disagreeing with it. It's a hot political story in nature, therefore it's controversial. It's really this simple.

Censorship. It works.

tomrod•4mo ago
Apparently it is weaker than boycotting
alkonaut•4mo ago
I hope it cost them a few percent revenue at least. I’m not resubscribing any time soon.
nostromo•4mo ago
The political right in this country would love for Disney to be boycotted - just saying.
hypeatei•4mo ago
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nostromo•4mo ago
Nobody has any principles here my friend. There is a long list of people canceled for making content that displeased the Democrats, and now a few murders too.

But yes, apparently everyone hates Disney and wants them to go bankrupt. So finally the left and right agree on one thing.

Unfortunately for Kimmel, late night TV is irrelevant dinosaur so he better extract as much money as he can before he inevitably ends up like Colbert.

hypeatei•4mo ago
> long list of people canceled

This FCC action was censorship, not cancel culture.

nostromo•4mo ago
Reuter's reported that Disney did this to protect the company’s interest and was not due to the FCC.

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/disney-says-j...

shadowgovt•4mo ago
Protect the company from what? What is the quote you're referencing here?
nostromo•4mo ago
> The decision was guided by what was in the entertainment company's best interest, rather than external pressure from station owners or the FCC, the sources said.
JumpCrisscross•4mo ago
That's a word salad.

From today's statement: "Last Wednesday, we [Disney] made the decision to suspend production on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country" [1].

[1] https://www.npr.org/2025/09/22/nx-s1-5550330/jimmy-kimmel-ba...

nostromo•4mo ago
It's not a word salad. It says this wasn't because of the FCC. Disney made the decision. And then they unmade it.
strictnein•4mo ago
What, exactly, was the FCC action here? Not comments by people at the FCC, what specific actions did the FCC take?
hypeatei•4mo ago
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimm...

  When Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr suggested Jimmy Kimmel should be suspended and said, “We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” ABC and its local affiliates were listening.


  On Wednesday afternoon, Carr tapped into preexisting MAGA media anger about a Monday night Kimmel monologue and used a right-wing podcaster’s platform to blast Kimmel and pressure ABC’s parent company Disney. 

Those are the actions he took as an official at the FCC.
kcplate•4mo ago
He couldn’t act alone. If a senate majority leader made stupid comments on a podcast would that be “the senate”?
shadowgovt•4mo ago
Comments by government officials aren't protected free speech because government officials control policy.

There have been market panics ended by the right words at the right time. It's a different kind of speech entirely from criticism of the government by those without direct political power.

SimianSci•4mo ago
"long list of people canceled for making content that displeased the Democrats"

If we exclude the people advocating violence and discrimination against others due to their immutable characteristics, we find that its not such a "long" list after all.

bayarearefugee•4mo ago
> There is a long list of people canceled for making content that displeased the Democrats, and now a few murders too.

The list I keep seeing from people on the right is Rosanne Barr and Tim Allen... who were "cancelled" in 2018 and 2017 respectively.

My memory is bad, so.. who was the wokie leftist President in office in 2017 and 2018 again?

jkubicek•4mo ago
We shouldn’t need to clarify this, but Tim Allen and Roseanne Bar were not threatened by high-ranking government officials, right?

These are two completely different situations. If conservatives want to vote with their dollars and boycott Disney, that’s something I wholeheartedly support. If they want to use their power as federal officials to silence voices they disagree with, that’s unacceptable.

stogot•4mo ago
The “right” isn’t a single voice. Many voices did not cheer it but called it for what it was:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/ted-cruz-fcc-brend...

The left is not a single voice. A few dangerous voices cheered assasinations while many decried it for what it was.

hypeatei•4mo ago
> The “right” isn’t a single voice.

I disagree. Trump, IMO, has been a cult-like leader for the GOP since 2016. And he even called for more networks to lose their licenses over "dishonesty" after this incident[0]. Not to mention the multitude of scandals that we've seen like: law firm security clearance revocation as retribution for supporting Trump's opponents, deporting legal residents over their protest against Israel, and various lawsuits he's engaged in as President against media corporations, pollsters, etc.. who disfavour him[1].

> Many voices did not cheer it but called it for what it was

"many" is Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz? To my knowledge, they haven't called out Trump specifically for attacks on the First Amendment, only Brendan Carr. That's fine and dandy, but no one on the right seems willing to take the plunge for some reason on the huge array of issues that cropped up before this FCC threat against ABC.

0: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5514110-trump-ne...

1: https://www.ibanet.org/Trumps-assault-on-the-First-Amendment

tomrod•4mo ago
I think rank and file folks are waking up a bit. Things are hard in the economy and tgey are seeing their moms, aunts, sisters, and daughters get impacted by reductions to women's healthcare.
hypeatei•4mo ago
I don't think so at all. I think some are waking up to the fact that Trump is becoming a liability and that his time is limited. They're preparing to shift to someone else who is just as bad, if not worse, such as Vance.
akkad33•4mo ago
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck,... you know what they say
JumpCrisscross•4mo ago
> The political right in this country would love for Disney to be boycotted - just saying

Don't care.

We've got two groups of people in this country: those willing to sacrifice our republic for personal enrichment and those who won't bend the knee. (The former need to be heavily investigated over the coming decade, mostly so we can write statute that makes their behaviour criminal in the future.)

croes•4mo ago
What about those who have to bend the knee because they are responsible for thousands of jobs?

Do you care about the normal people working at ABC who would lose their jobs if ABC loses its license?

stickfigure•4mo ago
It's a game of chicken that Trump has been losing. Even Tucker Carlson is saying "wait a minute". Disney/ABC is just run by cowards.
estimator7292•4mo ago
So we should all surender all of our rights and beliefs on the altar of The Economy
ethbr1•4mo ago
That's one thing that bugs the shit out of me about the effective altruism crowd.

If everyone justifies acting like a capitalist monster, so then they can use their gains to do good things...

... but as soon as they retire they're replaced by someone else also doing EA...

... then the end result is the entire economy controlled by monsters, always. (Plus a bunch of wealthy retirees playing charity)

ethbr1•4mo ago
The issue most people have with Disney's behavior is that they didn't even attempt to fight.

It's one thing to say "We're going to comply for now, but here are the things we'll be doing to push back..."

Attempting to can Kimmel because he said something the President doesn't like and because it's politically/economically convenient for Disney, without doing anything else?

That's just cowardice.

eighthourblink•4mo ago
WHY DOES EVERYTHING NEED TO BE POLITICAL!!
esalman•4mo ago
The bar is much higher for the left.
dyauspitr•4mo ago
Disney is a friend. You want to hurt them just enough to make a point but not enough to seriously hurt a actual ally.

Disney content, financially motivated or not, is some of the most left friendly media there is.

thrill•4mo ago
Disney forgot who their friends were. They need to stay in the sin bin until they fully realize it.
alkonaut•4mo ago
Even just the vague suggestion of bending the knee here is a massive mistake. It can’t happen.

Even failing to speak up clearly _against_ ”censorship recommendation” is bad neigh that the business should frankly be cancelled to bankruptcy - including parks, cruises and the rest of it.

croes•4mo ago
Strange how people are more willing to fight the companies that are somewhat on their side than those who are openly opposing them.
alkonaut•4mo ago
Like canceling newsmax? Or quitting Rogan?

I can’t. And I can’t vote. I can not buy a Tesla and cancel Disney but that’s it.

dyauspitr•4mo ago
It’s short sighted though. You don’t cancel your allies for a single failing, that just lets your enemy take their place.
kemayo•4mo ago
It's a lot easier to affect the behavior of a company that's actively trying to get your business, versus one that has already written you off.
nineplay•4mo ago
I'd be interested to know why you think that is? So far as I can tell all they've done is sprinkle characters here or there that are or might be gay. I haven't seen any shows criticize wealth inequity or champion UBI.
IAmBroom•4mo ago
Aladdin criticizes wealth inequality.

UBI isn't easily adapted into children's programming.

Integrape•4mo ago
In The Princess and the Frog, Tiana was denied the property she wanted to purchase by the Harvey Brothers (real estate agents) due to racial and socioeconomic discrimination.
bayarearefugee•4mo ago
> Disney content, financially motivated or not, is some of the most left friendly media there is.

This is kind of true, but it isn't correct to color this as Disney doing a favor to the left. The reason their content is "left" friendly is that most people are pretty aligned with the "left" when it comes to social issues.

They are offering this content because it is popular with the majority of people (and thus profitable), not as some sort of favor to their friends.

dimitri-vs•4mo ago
I thought we had all collective moved past the naive idea that any corporation is ever "your friend".
croes•4mo ago
But it’s also naive to think corporations aren’t made of feeling humans who sometimes want to do the right thing.
IAmBroom•4mo ago
Agreed... but Disney is a terrible example of that. Sometimes an anti-example, historically.
locopati•4mo ago
Disney has been removing queer characters from shows and movies and canceling shows that have large queer audiences. They're not as left friendly as they'd like you to believe.
dyauspitr•4mo ago
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. If Disney goes some Sinclair analog will take over that will probably call queer people mentally ill or something.
IAmBroom•4mo ago
You both make good points.
Gud•4mo ago
I have no mega corporations on my friend list.
1970-01-01•4mo ago
Had the FCC not been so blatant about axing the shows due to speech, and had the backlash been softer, this would have succeeded.
jayknight•4mo ago
If the president didn't say or tweet every thought that came into his head, he would probably be more successful at implementing even more of his authoritarian goals.
wilg•4mo ago
Disney was really in a pickle here, because the "right" already hates them for having a few gay characters and characters of disfavored races, so capitulating to Trump's illegal and immoral censorship would leave them with no political allies.
WarOnPrivacy•4mo ago
> Disney was really in a pickle here

Disney made a preschool-level bad choice. Grade schoolers have figured out that capitulating to a bully is how you signal you want more bulling.

Disney also had examples of law firms and universities that bent the knee to the whitehouse - and how that turned out for them. The reward for tanking their reputations was more whitehouse demands.

throwacct•4mo ago
I mean, businesses need to be impartial and take no sides. Their goal is to serve both sides of the aisle. If you have a business or you're the CEO, CTO, etc., you can share your political views privately.
WarOnPrivacy•4mo ago
> I mean, businesses need to be impartial and take no sides. Their goal is to serve both sides of the aisle.

Selling in itself tends to be impartial. The experience can be something else. The place I buy tires from proudly advertises their fandom for the WH occupant. They also treat me better than the neutral-appearing, sanitized tire shops.

If my county harassed them for their advertised orientation, the bad actor in that equation would be my county.

scoopdewoop•4mo ago
Business consolidation is a civil rights issue. Now every industry is led by giant monopolies that owe the administration favors. The appeasement of autocrats by capitalists for more market control is so inextricable from capitalism itself that any "capitalism" without it is a pure fantasy.
_DeadFred_•4mo ago
Ironically the FCC will be approving the Nexstar waiver after finding that the merger will not impact the national conversation by having one group own too many stations/have too much power.
gooseus•4mo ago
> Disney reinstating Kimmel doesn't necessarily mean his show will immediately appear on all ABC-affiliated networks. Conservative broadcaster Sinclair said last week that "regardless of ABC's plans for the future of the program, Sinclair intends not to return Jimmy Kimmel Live! to our air until we are confident that appropriate steps have been taken to uphold the standards expected of a national broadcast platform."

> Station owner Nexstar helped pressure Disney into suspending Kimmel's show last week when it announced its ABC-affiliated stations would not air the show "for the foreseeable future."

This is Disney doing damage control for their streaming platforms and other properties while Kimmel is still censored from a large % of audience he used to reach.

I hope he comes back with a show that burns Trump and Carr to the ground and dares them to try something like that again.

axiolite•4mo ago
Sinclair blocking Kimmel's show was the first thought on my mind when I saw this headline.

If Disney had any sense at all, they would have realized back when Sinclair was first forcing all their affiliates to air right-wing propaganda,* that their association with Sinclair is an existential threat.

Back then, they should have started dropping their affiliation with Sinclar one tower at a time, as they secure alternative broadcast arrangements in each area. Starting to do it now is better late than never, but I bet Disney execs are too clueless and spineless to stand up to Sinclair is any real way at all, in part because it will cost them a few $$$.

* https://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/19/sinclair.kerry/

cmxch•4mo ago
Unfortunately trying to drop Sinclair stations piecemeal (or otherwise) would break enough markets to attract regulatory attention.

One just does not drop ABC from a market and expect nobody to notice.

axiolite•4mo ago
I clearly said: "as they secure alternative broadcast arrangements in each area"

TV broadcast tower agreements are not ossified. Every year some station switches from one to another. Comcast buying NBC led to quite a spate of that in several markets. It can be slightly disruptive on the fringes (like Comcast/NBC*) or it can go unnoticed or even improve reception.

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbVXUaDAcBg

_DeadFred_•4mo ago
If you don't think companies like Sinclair should have so much power, contact the FCC and let them know the Nexstar merger shouldn't go through.

https://www.fcc.gov/transaction/nexstar-tribune

croes•4mo ago
But can Disney do anything about the censoring by Nextstar and Sinclair?
fuzzfactor•4mo ago
>Disney reinstates Jimmy Kimmel

It couldn't happen to more deserving citizens.

Now this is real patriotism if the First Amendment can quickly prevail, over lesser isms and their anti-American proponents.

Right now, ABC only live-streams on the open web (no Disney+ or anything needed) the shows from their national studios and local affiliates that are produced in-house, mainly from the news departments. Once the news is over each time, on the internet you only get more live news from the web anchor's control room desk, or something like reruns of investigative stories.

Maybe it would have been quite an ordeal to obtain web rights for the entertainment shows (that's a lot), or perhaps they have been holding out to collect extra revenue from those advertisers before showing them online. A year or two ago there were not yet ads on the web during the broadcast news breaks, only a spinner on a splash screen until the ad was over. It wasn't really too bad like that. Now there are ads but I don't know if they are the same as the broadcast ones.

Regardless, this might be a good time to flush it out like it could have been already if they set their mind to it.

Get Kimmel and his advertisers, guests, and musicians to agree to go live on the web and on the air simultaneously so anybody on the web can watch it like they used to do in real-time regardless of whether their local affiliate carries it on the air or not.

Doesn't Walt Disney have an entertainment lawyer or two that could handle this if the right geek was supervising the sprint? Attorneys pulling their weight, with geeks doing the engineering full stop and it could be ready in a week.

This would also be a good time to make special deals with other entertainment powerhouses to get artists like Taylor Swift and Bruce Springsteen to appear who can help build popularity beyond the ability of the haters. And not stop until it's been accomplished.

Maybe a worldwide audience would compensate for a loss in local broadcast consumers.

Never know until you try.

If at all possible they need to throw a grassroots monkey wrench into any media merger plans for the foreseeable future too.

SimianSci•4mo ago
Brendan Carr is overwhelmingly partisan and suprisingly unqualified for the role he occupies as the Chair of the FCC. Anyone paying attention to his actions over his time in office is not surprised by this outcome. Carr has been regularly going on podcasts and threatening that the FCC will be "going after" anyone unfavorable to the Trump administration, this is just the first time a company flinched in response. Im happy to hear Disney is rethinking their reflexive reaction.

Its deeply troubling to see the priorities of the FCC shift from expanding things like access to broadband to instead prioritize podcast appearances and fascistic threats. Expect more of this, as Carr seems to only be emboldened by the outcome.

nerpderp82•4mo ago
Carr needs to leave. It isn't his job to police the political airwaves.
tomrod•4mo ago
Weird that this got more than 100 votes in less than an hour then got pushed to page 2. I don't understand the HN algorithm I guess.
yodon•4mo ago
One of the highest priorities for the HN algorithm is to promote good interactions and discourage bad interactions. The logic is if you have a lot of people bickering with each other, regardless of the topic, it normalizes bad behavior. HN is trying to sustain itself as a forum with great discussions, so it very intentionally downranks anything that looks to the algorithm like it has people bickering with each other (eg. Up vote/down vote wars as a proxy for disagreement). Yes, this means many important topics move off the homepage because there is lots of disagreement within them. Encouraging good discussions is consciously viewed as more important than any individual topic.
mizzao•4mo ago
Just bookmark https://news.ycombinator.com/active and you will see the actual, real frontpage.
dang•4mo ago
Those threads wouldn't exist if the real frontpage didn't exist, because the real frontpage is what keeps this site existing at all.
cmxch•4mo ago
People like curiosity, not vitriol.
dang•4mo ago
It set off the flamewar detector. That's pretty standard (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...).
throwacct•4mo ago
They capitulated because they lost the right a few years ago, and they can't lose the left either.
cbradford•4mo ago
So now we know the reality. An employer, Disney, felt an employee, Kimmel, was damaging their business, let's not forget the point of an employee is to make money for their employer, and as a result took corrective action with the employee. Who was not fired. If a waiter at a restaurant was offending the customers, he would have been fired. Kimmel was treated very kindly and will continue to receive his paycheck. Looks like the wailing about free speech missed the mark
tene80i•4mo ago
You left out the part where a government official all but demanded they do what they did.
cbradford•4mo ago
Must have been a VERY strong demand for Disney to completely ignore it.
arp242•4mo ago
They didn't ignore it. The show was suspended for several days. Over some really tame remarks. The warning is pretty obvious to anyone paying attention.
logicalmind•4mo ago
Companies are driven by profits, but their decisions are usually based on legalities. I think their knee-jerk reaction to pull Kimmel was due to what might happen, or what the government was threatening to do. That doesn't amount to damages, legally. However, if they bring Kimmel back, and the government follows through on its initial threats, then that does amount to damages for which they can sue the government.
tene80i•4mo ago
Irrelevant. You were arguing this was an ordinary part of business, and the point is that it clearly isn’t.

Now you’re moving on to how much it matters that the government made such a demand. It matters very much, because it is unprecedented and outrageous. But I was only replying to your partial account, which left out the most crucial aspect of the entire affair.

Jensson•4mo ago
> It matters very much, because it is unprecedented and outrageous

It isn't unprecedented, Biden administration did that as well. This is normal for the US government, they never were strict with free speech they always pressured corporations to censor.

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/weaponizati...

tene80i•4mo ago
Anything equivalent to “We can do this the easy way or the hard way” said to a TV network by the official who can withdraw their licence to broadcast?
mcphage•4mo ago
I'm sure Disney is aware that there will be consequences to reinstating Kimmel. Maybe their proposed merger won't go through. Maybe something else—but they will be punished by the administration for it.
defrost•4mo ago
More accurately,

now we have another take on the story, this time the crafted PR spin from Disney retconned for damage control.

cbradford•4mo ago
Disney was probably inundated with demands from other on air talent to reinstate the employee. They then made the calculated judgment that maintaining good employee relations was on balance better served by putting the employee back on the assembly line. This is all usual and standard business. Anyone on here that has ever worked a job has contract that says what they can and cannot do while in the employ of the company.
defrost•4mo ago
People absolutely have the right to self identify in public as a person who accepts corporate PR statements as objective reality.

It's not for everyone, but each to their own.

_DeadFred_•4mo ago
Even if a man is dying of cancer that does not justify the government murdering him.

The Trump appointed FCC head, who is currently evaluating multiple multi-billion dollar requests, said about Kimmel 'we can do this the hard way or we can do this the easy way'.

hackable_sand•4mo ago
Land of the free, home of the brave? Ring a bell?
rinnith•4mo ago
It's seriously embarrassing a bunch of conservatives are demanding Kimmel to be cancelled over his frankly tame comments when they were all most likely the exact same people screaming about the "cancel culture liberals" for years. Truly pathetic how they're flip flopping on this.
seanmcdirmid•4mo ago
How does the FCC even matter anymore when people are increasingly getting their content via streaming? The only reason they have any leverage over Kimmel at all (and not, for example, South Park) is because ABC still broadcasts it.
JumpCrisscross•4mo ago
> How does the FCC even matter anymore when people are increasingly getting their content via streaming?

"The ability of the FCC to regulate internet content and platforms depends on statutory authority. In holding the forums on captioning of online video content, the FCC could look to the language of the 21st Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act, which included language that asked the FCC to look at the accessibility of video content used on internet platforms. In other areas, the FCC’s jurisdiction is not as clear, but calls arise regularly for the FCC to act to regulate content that, as we have written in other contexts, looks more and more like broadcast content and competes directly with that content.

Calls for the FCC to regulate internet content and the companies that provide that content are certain to multiply. In another of our weekly summaries of regulatory actions of interest to broadcasters, we noted recent meetings with FCC Commissioners’ offices by representatives of the TV affiliates organizations, in which they asked that the FCC consider regulation of linear programming services delivered through internet platforms in the same way that they regulate cable and satellite multichannel video providers, including the possibility of adopting a system of must-carry and retransmission consent. This is not at all a new idea, having been raised in 2014 in an FCC proceeding that asked for public comment on the question of whether to subject online video providers to MVPD regulation – a proceeding that never resulted in any action" [1].

[1] https://www.broadcastlawblog.com/2022/05/articles/does-the-f...

TheCleric•4mo ago
Because they still have leverage over local stations and in turn those stats have leverage over ABC/Disney.
RickJWagner•4mo ago
Meh. Kimmel has a history of racist and sexist comedy, to include blackface performances. For me, that’s a big turn off.

I think Ted Cruz had the right attitude for this one. It’s unwise to hammer unfairly on the opposition when you’re in power, because the pendulum inevitably swings back.

cmxch•4mo ago
And there goes the remaining customers of Disney. And hopefully their licenses.
duxup•4mo ago
I suspect the vast majority of customers before and after this whole thing aren't participating in a boycott either way.
tzs•4mo ago
Disney was getting some pretty funny international ridicule over canceling Kimmel. The best I've seen was this video [1] produced by a late-night show in the Netherlands of Disney announcing a new direction to better serve today's audiences.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_hQ1plKmCM

croes•4mo ago
I took it as more of a ridicule of Trump than Disney.
mieses•4mo ago
Disney needs a win badly, even if it's imagined.
ethics13•4mo ago
Is it me, or is this awesome site turning into Reddit v2?