I don’t quite get how this happened? Ruby Central can’t just reach into my GitHub and declare they own something. Was it under the Ruby central account? Or an org account that decided they “own” the repo?
The cultural hegemony that blue team activists have enjoyed is over, and now those with actual power are finally asserting it and ousting all of the trouble-makers.
I'm happy to be proven wrong here, but I really need evidence rather than some highfalutin argument that rests on reasoning by analogy.
Edit: I see more downvotes than replies. I suspect I'm correct.
That's your take?
I simply observe lawlessness.
I have a hard time believing a company as large as Shopify or others using Ruby will take these actions without first consulting their legal departments. Maybe I'm wrong, but you have to cite an applicable law. Just saying something is lawless doesn't mean it actually is.
But...it makes it a little difficult to build an inclusive open source community with that at your head.
Personally, I think DHH is a troll and would never be interested in sponsoring, or attending, an event that involved him.
Having a city turn from majority British to British being minority means something very strange and damaging is happening.
I distinctly remember a specific Twitter comment, maybe 7ish years ago, that solidified my view on DHH as a person. It was a thread about remote work. Someone from South America commented trying to be nice to David, saying something like "you should work remotely from Chile, it has a great Ruby community" etc, to which his response was "I've no interest in living in a 3rd world country".
Notch-esque politics aside, that was mean-spirited, inconsiderate behavior which should not be applauded. From that day I strongly sensed that was who he truly was.
Replace "nationalistic" with "fascist". That's the issue.
https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media...
https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-co...
Honest question: What's the issue with DHH here? What did he do that caused them to pull support because he was platformed at RailsConf?
https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-pro...
DHH has been going off the deep end with his rhetoric for years, the current political environment has made it so that he can't be ignored anymore.
But Shopify is also right wing in its executive team, and via these move they appear to be support DHH:
https://pressprogress.ca/shopify-executives-right-wing-media...
https://disconnect.blog/the-conservative-tech-alliance-is-co...
See: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64
If you have the source code, you own the source code. Other people own it as well. This is literally the defining feature of open source. If I have Ruby source code and Rails source code on my machine, I own it, no one can take it away or tell me what to do with it.
Anyhow, Ruby Central managed the GitHub repo, the website, the gem, bundler, etc... before this.
If some disgruntled former employee/contractor wants to hard fork they can, they also own the code. But I heard they've started a competitor and are looking for funding (probably part of the reason Shopify and others wanted to consolidate control; a maintainer with admin privileges starting a literal competitor is a liability).
Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45299170
A board member's perspective of the RubyGems controversy
> In his blog post, André says, “For the last ten years or so of working on Bundler, I’ve had a wish rattling around: I want a better dependency manager. It doesn’t just manage your gems, it manages your ruby versions, too. It doesn’t just manage your ruby versions, it installs pre-compiled rubies so you don’t have to wait for ruby to compile from source every time. And more than all of that, it makes it completely trivial to run any script or tool written in ruby, even if that script or tool needs a different ruby than your application does.”
> Bluesky threads reveal that Rafael França (Shopify / Rails Core) saw this tool as a threat, saying “some of the “admins” even announced publicly many days ago they were launching a competitor tool [rv] and were funding raising for it. I’d not trust the system to such “admin”.”
So a dev was innovating to better tool to meet their needs (which is what most open source maintainers are generally doing all day), and then some guys immediately jumped to the possibility that they would then actively sabotage RubyGems? Whoa, that is insane.
Trying to kill innovation and a start-up out of fear doesn't sound like Shopify's branding in the media.
An Update from Ruby Central - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45344448 - Sept 2025 (1 comment)
A board member's perspective of the RubyGems controversy - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45325792 - Sept 2025 (148 comments)
Goodbye, RubyGems - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45306135 - Sept 2025 (1 comment)
Ruby Central's response to the RubyGems situation - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45301949 - Sept 2025 (1 comment)
Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45299170 - Sept 2025 (244 comments)
I just wish we could get to the part where the community can know and trust that our supply chain is safe and can be trusted.
leakycap•1h ago
The Ruby community has been eating itself alive since almost the beginning, but it is sad to see the short-sighted destruction of trust and connection that this has had.