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The 'hybrid war' Europe faces is a gift for Putin

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/27/europe/putin-hybrid-war-europe-risks-intl
2•breve•2m ago•0 comments

FAQ for Senior Military Officers at Hegseth's Quantico Meeting

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Bad Machinery: Managing Interrupts Under Load

https://log.andvari.net/pages/bad-machinery.html
2•mooreds•7m ago•0 comments

More parents are choosing 'one and done.'

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Trust Thermoclines

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Drunk CSS

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2•FromTheArchives•9m ago•0 comments

Walmart CEO Issues Wake-Up Call: 'AI Is Going to Change Every Job'

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/walmart-ceo-doug-mcmillon-ai-job-losses-dbaca3aa
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Blind Lossless Audio Test

https://abx.digitalfeed.net/
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Ask HN: What's the most socially awkward product you've heard of?

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Show HN: I curated a collection of Nana Banana prompt examples

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Men could benefit from faster scan to diagnose prostate cancer

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Million-year-old skull rewrites human evolution, scientists claim

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdx01ve5151o
1•Brajeshwar•16m ago•0 comments

The Other Linux Logo

https://ecogex.com/the-other-linux-logo/
12•tarball•18m ago•4 comments

Chinese hackers breach US software and law firms amid trade fight, experts say

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/24/politics/chinese-hackers-breach-us-firms-trade-fight
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Conway's Pinwheel Tiling

https://www.johndcook.com/blog/2025/09/25/conways-pinwheel-tiling/
4•pavel_lishin•18m ago•1 comments

Pentagon can call DJI a Chinese Military Company, court rules

https://www.theverge.com/news/786540/dji-loses-chinese-military-company-lawsuit-dod
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Find the Body

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Words Can Hurt: A Plea to the Ruby Community

https://noteflakes.com/articles/2025-09-27-words
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Users Only Care About 20% of Your Application

https://idiallo.com/blog/users-only-care-about-20-percent
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A Critique of Dictionary Websites and Apps

https://bit-101.com/blog/posts/2025-09-27/dictionaries/
3•latexr•23m ago•1 comments

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Europe needs to dig deeper into open source

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Show HN: I spent 4 months building Duolingo but for your life

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Pushing meta charset beyond first 1024 bytes is bad (2019)

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Building and deploying AI-powered apps with GitHub Spark

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2•raybb•29m ago•0 comments

Samsung now owns Denon, Bowers and Wilkins, Marantz, Polk, and more audio brands

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16•thelastgallon•32m ago•6 comments
Open in hackernews

Cracker Barrel Outrage Was Almost Certainly Driven by Bots, Researchers Say

https://gizmodo.com/cracker-barrel-outrage-was-almost-certainly-driven-by-bots-researchers-say-2000664221
72•rbanffy•1h ago

Comments

Simulacra•1h ago
I don't think this is good evidence for this, there was a lot of people vociferously and quite publicly concerned about Cracker Barrel. This bot excuse seems more like a ploy to downplay things.
j_maffe•1h ago
Why don't you think it's good evidence? Did you even read the report?
smt88•1h ago
"A lot of people" meaning bots.

No real-life person thought the logo was offensive before or that the logo became woke. It never passed the smell test.

Thorrez•58m ago
>Of course, that means 75% of those posts were from people. PeakMetrics notes that the earliest posts expressing dismay and frustration at Cracker Barrel’s decision to update its logo came from human-run accounts. Once the bot networks started to pick up on the trend, though, they blew the whole thing up. “Authentic voices articulated cultural dissatisfaction, which bots then amplified,” the report said.

>PeakMetrics didn’t attribute the bot megaphone to any specific organization or state actor. Rather, it found, “The initiators are ideological activist accounts with prior culture-war posting histories, supported by botnets.”

skippyboxedhero•1h ago
The people who complain about bots never seem to identify bots posting things that they agree with.

"the bots" is the new false consciousness, it is a deliberate attempt to avoid engaging

its-summertime•52m ago
Or its easier to talk about pro party X bots, in a space that is pro party Y? and harder to talk about pro party Y bots in a space that is pro party Y.
gdulli•25m ago
I believe that black lives matter, but also thought it made a lot of sense that the movement and branding of it could have been bot-driven to engineer a culture war.
greenchair•1h ago
well gizmodo is a left wing outlet so no surprise here. when the left can't win an argument based on logic or even emotion, next tactic up is often ad hominem
carefulfungi•50m ago
Our next big plan is to insult the measles into submission.
add-sub-mul-div•27m ago
I think the implication is that the bots bootstrapped the drama which created real offense from real people. That's why the bots are effective, because the audience is predictably easy to rile up once one of two sides is labeled as "woke".
api•1h ago
I hated the new logo, but I don’t get how it was a “woke” thing or had anything to do with left/right politics. It seemed to me like a “sterile flat millennial-modernist design fatigue” thing. I’m very sick of flat designs and everything trying to look like the Apple Store.

I could buy that the politicizing was bot and troll driven.

q3k•1h ago
I think some people are convinced that everything they don't like about society (in this case, companies coming up with "sterile" logos) is Woke and generally part of The Culture War.

As they say, the internet makes you stupid.

yostrovs•1h ago
It's not people that are "convinced". It's the bots.
pwython•1h ago
The logo has an old, southern white man, which some would call a "cracker" as a sort of white slur. That term originally comes from someone being a "whip-cracker." I'll let you fill in the blanks.
antonymoose•1h ago
Insofar as I’m aware the Cracker term does indeed involve whips, but rather than whipping slaves, it was Florida Crackers driving cattle.

However, as relates to the business, I believe it’s meant to invoke a literal barrel of crackers an old timey good Ol’ fashioned country store?

pwython•49m ago
Yes, but the term certainly evolved from its origin. And of course, the name Cracker Barrel was just about a literal barrel of soda crackers.
api•36m ago
Cracker Barrel is a nostalgic homage to the old country store, which often featured a barrel of crackers as in actual crackers and sometimes a block of cheese. You could cut a piece of cheese and put it on a cracker. Cue “people don’t know this but you can just take the crackers! I have one thousand crackers!” meme.

This was also a feature in some bars in the Midwest and South. I doubt the idea of a communal cheese block has survived into modern times, certainly not post pandemic, but I remember stopping into a pub as a kid in Ohio and seeing one and yes I did help myself and am still alive. That block of cheese had to have been one foot by one foot at least.

perks_12•1h ago
100 %.I absolutely did not get the political view. Some people made the female CEO out to be the devil.

The logo is very corporate, some might say soulless now, but I get it; it's a first step to modernize the brand.

Thorrez•1h ago
The logo change was rolled back.
cj•1h ago
> because apparently, one of the demands of leftist extremists is conforming to sans-serif supremacy.

I think we can unanimously agree that serif fonts are an existential threat to civilization.

I really hope it was bots that drove the outrage. If it wasn’t, I don’t know what to say.

It’s a logo.

marginalia_nu•1h ago
Seems like a plausible strategy to try to associate existing outrage with the cause the bot operator is trying to advance.

Interesting. I do remember encountering these types of shitstorms and being confused why on earth it's being turned into a debate about capitalism or immigrants or whatever.

antonymoose•1h ago
I would assume the association with “woke” comes from prior instances of Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben, the butter lady all being sanitized such that any such sanitation is now associated with “woke politics.”

It’s now a trained knee-jerk response.

i_c_b•46m ago
I really try to avoid anything about politics here, but I recall there already being a controversy about this back in May of 2024. Specifically, there were public comments from the new CEO to investors about Cracker Barrel needing to change the demographics of the customers who ate at Cracker Barrel, and, depending on your point of view, some people interpreted the way the comments were said as suggesting that there was something morally suspect about how non-diverse, non-inclusive, old-and-white-and-straight the current dining demographics at Cracker Barrel were. There was a small right-of-center online public outrage du jour about it at the time. I'm not interested in litigating what the CEO said or how justified the outrage was, just noting precedent.

I can't find any of that discussion online, because it has been totally overshadowed by the more recent logo drama, but you can see a bloodless summary of the event here from the time: https://www.nrn.com/family-dining/cracker-barrel-unveils-str...

So there already was a pre-existing history here for people who are sympathetic to this point of view, particularly coming as it did shortly after some similar Bud Light and Target controversies.

scarface_74•33m ago
They did need to change the demographics. It is currently overwhelmingly “a bunch of old people who are going to die soon”. The same as the CBS network.
GLdRH•14m ago
Old people are becoming more, not less
cramcgrab•1h ago
Most viral things are driven, at least initially, by bots or click farms. Also, fake promotions from websites to artificially amplify posts or stories. View counts on a video or post can easily be manipulated.
sigmoid10•1h ago
You can buy server racks for under $200 from China that are made for holding like 20 Android motherboards. Get 50 of those and some centralised management software to interact with all of them on one big screen and you have potentially 1000 unique users that will be really hard to distinguish from bots using normal techniques. That's more than enough to jump-start a viral moment on many social media platforms. And if you hire 5 guys to post full time, you can completely steer the discussion on individual channels like facebook groups, instagram posts or reddit/HN threads.
ants_everywhere•58m ago
What I don't understand about bot farms is how they don't get IP banned.

If you do buy such a rack, how do people in practice get a rack full of devices to look like they're coming from valid ips that aren't in a VPN or cloud provider's ip range?

simonw•56m ago
Mobile phones end up sharing an external IP address with may other (real human) mobile phones on the same cellular network.
sigmoid10•55m ago
IP banning is way more difficult in practice than most people realise due to NAT. How do you distinguish a bot farm that is heavily posting on some trendy topic from a school full of highly engaged kids? They'll both have a ton of traffic coming from a single IP as far as your server is concerned. And if any IP ever does get flagged (which only makes sense for static ones anyways), it is trivial to move to a new one.
sampullman•54m ago
Residential proxies and other such techniques, I imagine.
matwood•55m ago
Yep. There was a paper a few years ago that looked at how Russian bots spread disinformation. Basically the bots hype the disinformation internally amongst themselves until it lands on a real persons feed. By that point it looks real because of all of the engagement. From there, real human emotion and the engagement algorithms take over.
mouse_•1h ago
All sentiment will be driven by bots, who will be driven by whoever has the most money.
marginalia_nu•1h ago
Don't discount state actors.

You can absolutely derail a democracy you are not fond of by stoking the flames on both extremes on the political spectrum.

tomrod•1h ago
Money is a place holder for power, which state actors currently have in their geographic monopolies
antris•57m ago
>both extremes

Oh come on

marginalia_nu•50m ago
We know this is a thing from the Mueller report. The Russians had their hands in everything from LGBT and black advocacy groups to the Tea Party movement.
spookie•48m ago
This is what happens in the EU, even more noticeable since 2021. Hell, it's basically the horseshoe theory put into practice. In some subjects similar ideas are supported by both extremes, mostly just for political gain in the moment. You know, populists are like that.

Take a look at France. That's what has been happening since political interests took over the gilets jaunes protest (which didn't really end in 2020, mind you), and continues to this day in one way or another.

(Edit: clarify, and add context)

orwin•33m ago
In This case, gp should change to 'all extremes'. The extreme center is a thing. Boulanger is the origin, but he has adept, the most known in the Anglo world is probably Blair, but the closest ideologically is Macron (just read 'how democracy dies' if you aren't convinced yet, or read about 'retenue institutionnelle' if you want to dog into the concept of democracy more deeply).
marginalia_nu•10m ago
There are no doubt many ways one can define what is and isn't extreme. The definition of extreme I apply is in the context of the comment I made is something like political viewpoints or groups on the outside or on the fringes of the political establishment.

Figures like Macron or Blair may be or have been extreme in some regards, but not in this one.

mosura•1h ago
Given that everyone I disagree with on here is almost certainly a bot this fits.
q3k•36m ago
I'm not a bot! You're the bot!

:)

GLdRH•19m ago
Oh yeah? Can you even recognize all these stop signs?
syntaxing•1h ago
My tinfoil hat conspiracy is that most outrages online is “fake” in general. They just need to get the ball rolling and the internet community takes the bait. For instance, I’m heavily convinced the Travis and Taylor subreddit was some sort of bot generated outrage or Peter Theil/Spez project. Mind you, I’m not a fan of either (I don’t even watch football) but the community really took off after Taylor Swift supported Kamala in the election. There’s a ton of stuff with (in my opinion) unwarranted hate on the subreddit and it’s always on my front page despite never clicking into either subreddit or read news about them.
crazygringo•1h ago
> In that timeframe, it found that 44.5% of all mentions of Cracker Barrel were flagged as likely or higher bot activity.

This is a useless statistic without a comparison of what percentage of activity is bots for any culture-war news story of the day.

And it means that over half weren't bots.

People really were genuinely bothered by replacing an old-timey logo they grew up with and loved, with some bland corporate logo that looks like everything else.

Also they were pissed off about the similar redesign of the interiors from homey personality to generic bland gray.

If you think it's silly because it's not a restaurant you go to, imagine if Coca-Cola replaced their script logo with some generic sans-serif one. Don't you think the outrage would be real?

tdeck•1h ago
As someone who has been to Cracker Barrel many times I find it hard to believe there was such strong affection for the logo. The logo is the least distinctive or memorable thing about Cracker Barrel's restaurant design.
crazygringo•56m ago
But it's all part of the same thing. And it wasn't just the logo -- they redid the entire restaurant design. And they've rolled it all back now, the old restaurant design stays.

And the logo is more recognizable than you seem to think -- you see signs for it on the highway, it's part of building anticipation for the visit. It's part of childhood memories.

multjoy•54m ago
So nothing can ever change?
p1esk•49m ago
Out of all things they could have improved, they picked one that didn’t need changing.
forgotoldacc•35m ago
People are beyond sick of the corporate soulless overhauls of things people like. Millennials and zoomers talk pretty often about McDonald's and other chains losing the "fun" atmosphere they had decades ago and looking like soulless office dining halls. Cracker Barrel is the only chain that still has that fun atmosphere. The rebrand was turning it into a soulless dining hall. It's not surprising it pissed people off.

And all the outrage I saw was from people getting pissed about it on discord. That's a lot harder to fake than random twitter posts, where bots all parrot actual trends in order to boost their views and shill some sort of scam/product.

If Taco Bell announced they were bringing back 90s style colorful interiors and decorations, I think the outrage would be zero. People would celebrate. People have no problem with interesting change.

ToucanLoucan•19m ago
People will accept change if it's better. Yet another distinct, albeit not my cup of tea, and interesting restaurant rebranding into yet another fucking gray box with a flat 2-color logo isn't better, it's more bland in a sea of bland.

Even though I have no good vibes for the place, I'm happy it exists, and there are clearly a bunch of other people who DO like it, and I also want them to have it. That makes for a better world to live in, if only by a micron.

washadjeffmad•19m ago
Do you know what a Cracker Barrel is? They're not exactly celebrations of modernity.
p1esk•53m ago
I think the old logo was distinctive and memorable. I used to go there because of food and because of atmosphere. If the atmosphere is gone I’m less likely to return in the future.
scythe•26m ago
It's just another case of this generally awful trend. Here's the thing about the boiling frog: it's not true. Slowly heating a frog will not make it die peacefully. It still reacts when the temperature gets too high.

An awful lot of people I've talked to in real life (including me) are not happy about the encroaching minimal trend in design taking over everything. If it was just Cracker Barrel, it probably wouldn't be that big of a deal. But it is like the fall of Constantinople to the app icons. We're already cursed with hideous buildings and logos everywhere, so when the nostalgia was drained from the restaurant built on nostalgia people reacted.

And for whatever reason I saw people trying to make it a culture war issue, accusing anyone who objected of being right-wing. Thankfully a number of prominent Democrats spoke up, too, because it was never about "woke" or whatever.

technothrasher•8m ago
> Here's the thing about the boiling frog: it's not true.

That whole thing stems from a 19th century German scientist (Dr Fruedrich Goltz) who wanted to know if the impulse to jump out was from the brain or further down the nervous system. From his experiments, an intact frog freaks out when the water gets too hot. When he destroyed the brain of the frog, it sits their until it dies of exposure.

There was actually quite a lot of experimenting in the late 19th century with "reflex frogs" (i.e. brain dead but still alive). W. T. Sedgwick wrote a decent review of it in 1888 titled, "ON VARIATIONS OF REFLEX-EXCITABILITY IN THE FROG, INDUCED BY CHANGES OF TEMPERATURE."

BolexNOLA•56m ago
There is no way people are that passionate about graphic design. All the debate about the logo has to do with conservatives declaring Cracker Barrel was going woke and getting angry about it and turning it into yet another front for their culture war.

Cracker Barrel is a mediocre chain people associate with the term “American.” That being said, this isn’t changing the Statue of Liberty. It’s a corporate logo change. People took this personally because virtually everything is part of the culture war now.

dave78•32m ago
Ahem: https://x.com/TheDemocrats/status/1958659652708716776

The dislike for the new logo was one of the very rare things that people on both sides in the US seemed to agree on...

thrance•9m ago
Doesn't matter. Republican politicans and influencers (if separating the two still makes any sense) framed it as an attack by the "woke" and "radical left" on these fabled american values.
marginalia_nu•56m ago
> And it means that over half weren't bots.

Just a small number of fake accounts can likely stir up tensions quite a lot.

I've noticed some of the biggest outrage usually comes as reactions to screenshots of what the other side is saying. There is of course nothing preventing you from running some of those accounts as well.

throwaway667555•32m ago
The logo and interior design was s--t.
tantalor•6m ago
Found the bot
HardwareLust•46m ago
If you are literally angry your favorite corporately owned chain restaurant changed their logo and/or their decor, you got bigger problems.
techblueberry•38m ago
I think it’s a microcosm for the conflict for the fact that we’re all nostalgic for this world that doesn’t exist, and bizarrely that nobody wants.

I find nostalgia in general fascinating, and it was funny, I watched this Fox News / Gutfeld clip and I think maybe with one exception, none of them had been to Cracker Barrel, and it makes sense, if you’re a Fox News host, you’re probably a city person. I think even Christopher Rufo who led the culture war charge against it didn’t really go.

But it’s anger at this abstract attack on “Americana”(this is the best explanation I’ve seen for why some people have called it woke) that only some of our grandparents truly value anymore. And the weird thing is, if the brand really is dying, attempts to stop it from changing will only hasten its demise.

Anyways, fascinating.

mapontosevenths•1m ago
Conservatives, almost by definition, need the past to have been better than the future.

Otherwise, what are they conserving?

jjulius•41m ago
I'll allow being upset that something you love is changing because you're nostalgic for what it's always been, struggle with change and don't like how bland modern design is. I don't personally get it (though I've got solidarity regarding the blandness of design), but I understand those sentiments exist in others and am OK with that.

What I don't get, and what was truly excessive, is blaming it on "woke" and watching our politicians and president get involved. That was all beyond stupid.

rashkov•34m ago
Everything is weaponized, whether it makes sense or not. They’re just throwing things at the wall to see what sticks, and these things take a life of their own
techblueberry•23m ago
The funny thing about calling it woke is it wasn’t a partisan issue, nobody was going to Cracker Barrel Republicans included, that’s why it was dying, and all my woke/liberal friends were just as nostalgic.

But it’s really representative of how little of a shared vision for America there is on the modern right, like this full throated attack in an attempt to protect something they don’t want.

api•19m ago
My take is that some on the right, perhaps most, correctly identify that our culture is in the doldrums but don’t have an answer. Being conservatives and reactionaries their instinct is to reach for a point in the past they think was better and try to roll back to that. But they haven’t thought it through in any depth. They don’t know what they actually want.

Leftists, having different instincts, reach for things like class conflict and social injustice to explain the doldrums, but I’m not convinced they’ve thought it through either.

techblueberry•11m ago
Yeah, the weird annoyance from me is I probably value things like cracker barrel more than your average Republican.

I think about how there was this era of Vegas in the 80’s and 90’s where they built all those crazy theme hotels, and now the “theme” for most hotels in Vegas is just like “glam”

glenstein•33m ago
>This is a useless statistic without a comparison of what percentage of activity is bots for any culture-war news story of the day.

There's a grain of truth in here, but you're taking it way too far. I'd rather have that number you're asking for than not have it to be sure, but the percentage still matters in absolute terms.

KronisLV•20m ago
> And it means that over half weren't bots.

I think the important thing here is to see which came first. How many people in a crowd do you need to start clapping, to end up with everyone applauding?

mhb•12m ago
Steven Pinker's new book:

When Everyone Knows That Everyone Knows . . .: Common Knowledge and the Mysteries of Money, Power, and Everyday Life

https://www.amazon.com/When-Everyone-Knows-That-Knowledge/dp...

astine•13m ago
If you think it's silly because it's not a restaurant you go to, imagine if Coca-Cola replaced their script logo with some generic sans-serif one. Don't you think the outrage would be real?

I can't imagine being upset at something like that. I'm sure there would be people upset, given the nonsense that happened in the 80s, but being personally invested in corporate branding has got to be the saddest sort of parasocial relationship possible.

ants_everywhere•9m ago
If you look around the room and half the people agreeing with you are plants then something seems off.

It's not hard to start a bar fight if you don't care who wins or what it's over. The angriest people are easily manipulated to point their anger in whatever direction the manipulator wants.

grayhatter•5m ago
It's actually not that useless. Everything organic, or interacting with something natural follows the power law. Or 80/20 if you prefer.

When working on security and integrity issues, we found 10-20% of all traffic would be inorganic. The more course the metric, the more likely it was to be exactly 20%

To me, knowing nothing about this specfic domain, and just abuse/integrity in general, 45% means it's well over double what I'd expect from an unmanaged source. Well over double, because true double wouldn't be 40% (20/100) + 20 = 40/120 = 33%

This heuristic tells me it's specific, targeted, and well above the background noise youms might ignore for higher priorities. In other words, it's a problem that's actionable.

Here, I assume stoking anger and outrage is the goal. That's why it not being 20% is significant.

jfengel•1h ago
Sincere question: was there any actual outrage about it?

I try to avoid the news as much as possible but a little about this slopped over my barriers. What I saw was pushback against the pushback, but none of the actual "oh no new logo is woke".

I assume there must have been some, since Cracker Barrel did change course. Still, I can't tell how upset anyone actually was, and how much was just outrage about outrage.

astine•26m ago
I definitely saw some. It came from people who were in that culture war space where they interpret every trend as being part of a big left-wing plot to impose their values on everybody else.
crims0n•26m ago
In my vague recollection, there was some legitimate outrage. The logo was just what people rallied behind, people were really upset that they planned to remodel the whole restaurant/store with some generic corporate slop. The “woke” comments came after from the usual crowd.

If you have ever been in a Cracker Barrel, it has a very distinct feel of soulful agrarian Americana. I suspect most people used the fight as a proxy for preserving that part of our culture, which is getting more rare/unknown in modern America.

abxyz•1h ago
Except this is a hot button issue. Everyone has an opinion on brands ruining their iconic logos. Nobody cares about cracker barrel specifically, they care about what the change represents. Real people love dumb low stakes drama, that has been true before social media and will be true long after it. Real people spent weeks all consumed by a cheating CEO.

Almost all supposed outrage marketing is just marketing teams making terrible decisions because they’re people and people make terrible decisions.

Ekaros•42m ago
People don't care about single specific change. But they notice and are annoyed when it becomes a trend and half of the market is turning to generic boring sameness. So they latch on to the current culprit.

I think people in general value identity of the brands more than many brands themselves do. And the change is in some ways attack to them, not to the brand.

shaftoe•59m ago
While bots are possible, another confounding factor is that the most prolific social media posters are strongly correlated with psychiatric disorders.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10129173/

Anecdotally, either and both could be true: what "normal" person actually cares very much about the logo of a chain restaurant? Most people care about whether they can afford fun things, who they're sleeping with, and what they're having for dinner.

JKCalhoun•55m ago
> Most people care about whether they can afford fun things, who they're sleeping with, and what they're having for dinner.

Ahhh, I see most of us are swimming around the bottom of the Maslow's heirarchy of needs.

laughingcurve•47m ago
It’s the base because it’s the most important; not the least “erudite”.
lambdaone•46m ago
Yes, that's exactly what the poster above was saying, just not in those words. The idea that we are one and all on a high-minded journey of self-actualisation is hopelessly naive; most people are indeed flailing around at the bottom of the Maslow's pyramid, and that's how we got to where we are today politically.
orwin•46m ago
I mean, I kinda? When I'm not working, I mostly think about tabletop rpgs, wingfoil/windsurf, my SO/family, and what I will do for dinner. Pegged me down to the T here.
ants_everywhere•53m ago
Gone are the days when real humans needed to own newspapers and spend a lifetime writing to manufacture outrage.
lyu07282•47m ago
Has anyone dived more deeper into this, how do they determine if it is a bot or not? It seems like a non-trivial problem to me, on Reddit there is the BotBouncer [1] but that's all seemingly based on user-flagging.

I couldn't find any real sources for it besides [2] but its not even mentioning bots, did Gizmodo make it up? Why don't they link their sources ffs!

Like people constantly allege botting or brigarding for things they don't like, and even if it wasn't a machine it can still be inauthentic. The methodology seems really important to explain in detail otherwise this is all just vibes and junk science.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/BotBouncer/ Github: https://github.com/fsvreddit/bot-bouncer

[2] https://www.peakmetrics.com/insights/the-politics-of-the-cra...

Mistletoe•32m ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

One I learned about on HN. Prior to this I would have thought this was a real tinfoil hat idea, but groups like this are actively online every day sowing unrest and it is working so well at destroying America. How can we combat it?

waltbosz•27m ago
Reading this thread is making me want to go out for breakfast, but the reminders that cracker barrel is a corporate entity is making me want to patron a local diner.
poopiokaka•4m ago
This just reads like PeakMetrics trying to promote their closed source “bot detection” algorithm. Let’s say that algorithm doesn’t work?
FrustratedMonky•1m ago
I'm sure a lot of people on HN are very aware of AI, bots, manipulation.

But I have to say, it is getting harder to tell. If you think the AI slop is the only AI content, you are missing all the AI content that is good and nobody is noticing.

Its just that AI tools have become so wide spread that a lot of people are generating low quality slop. That is hiding the realistic slop.